14” M1X Is anyone regretting buying the 13” M1 ?

[Fomalhaut]

I wish apple would hurry up and release the 14"

I'm guessing it will be Sep/Oct 21, and not around WWDC. In part this is because of current chip shortages and preasure of fab plants, but I also think that Apple may want to launch the next generation with the benefits made to the core architecture to align with the A15. Without this, it may be a stretch to scale up the M1 to get the GPU performance needed for the MBP16.

The MBP16 would need to have enough GPU cores to comfortably exceed the current AMD 5600M, and this is not an easy task, and mid-year is optimisitc.

Of course it is possible that there would be a new MBP14 earlier, with less powerful GPU cores, which would still be hugely better than the current ones with Intel iGPUs.

I am watching this space with interest.

 

[Lihp8270]

Want to trade? They are both awesome machines, I wouldn't regret it at all if I had gotten the MBP.

I’ve always had the pros, so took the safe option. But after seeing the MBA performance with the M1 it would have been more than enough for me 😂

 

[yanksrock100]

I'm not mad. I purchased an M1 Mac because I wanted to be an early adopter. I spent the last few months understanding the new developer environment on M1 and have been pleasantly surprised.

If the new 14 inch Pro blows me away, I will happily take a look at them and consider putting my 2020 model on eBay.

 

[Fidgit]

But if you’d known in May that a new version of the air was coming out 6 months later then would you still have bought it? I understand this is a place where not many people are going to criticise Apple, and I sort of get the “stop whinging they don’t owe you anything” style replies, but I can also see why their ultra closed door policy on communicating their road map can be annoying. Imagine if Microsoft and Sony had given no indication that the new consoles were coming out and then they suddenly appear - it just wouldn’t happen. I want to buy a new macbook now, but I’m in a sort of frustrating place where either I’ll know I’ll buy something now and potentially have buyers‘ remorse at some point in the next 6-12 months, or I’ll wait for 6-12 months so I don’t have to experience that (I was another guy who bought the early 2020 air with no idea that a massively faster version would be out barely 6 months later for the same price). And it’s all purely so they don’t have people waiting for things and give them their money as quickly as possible.

edit - obviously I’m an idiot, I was trying to quote the guy above who’s bought two airs in 12 months. Basically Apple’s ideal customer.

 

[Howard2k]

But if you’d known in May that a new version of the air was coming out 6 months later then would you still have bought it? I understand this is a place where not many people are going to criticise Apple, and I sort of get the “stop whinging they don’t owe you anything” style replies, but I can also see why their ultra closed door policy on communicating their road map can be annoying. Imagine if Microsoft and Sony had given no indication that the new consoles were coming out and then they suddenly appear - it just wouldn’t happen. I want to buy a new macbook now, but I’m in a sort of frustrating place where either I’ll know I’ll buy something now and potentially have buyers‘ remorse at some point in the next 6-12 months, or I’ll wait for 6-12 months so I don’t have to experience that (I was another guy who bought the early 2020 air with no idea that a massively faster version would be out barely 6 months later for the same price). And it’s all purely so they don’t have people waiting for things and give them their money as quickly as possible.

edit - obviously I’m an idiot, I was trying to quote the guy above who’s bought two airs in 12 months. Basically Apple’s ideal customer.

When you buy a MacBook you buy the specs that are advertised when you buy it. If it doesn't have HDMI ports advertised when you buy it then it won't have HDMI ports when you buy it. The next MacBook might have HDMI ports, and if it does have HDMI ports then it doesn't suddenly mean that your MacBook is less effective than it was for not having them. Your MacBook remains untouched, it still works as it did, and your deal with Apple (I give you $x, you give me computer with specs y) remains intact.

You do bring up a great point with game consoles. They are computers too, although the life cycle, buying cycle, and development cycle, are all materially different. I'd be frustrated if I bought a PS4 and then a PS5 came out a month later, but I don't recall that Sony pre-announced the changes from the Rev A PS4 to the Rev B PS4 (I don't remember the specifics), and I don't think they pre-announced the launch of the PS4 Slim. Certainly they do not pre-announce the changes within the product. The early PS4s did not have 5GHz wifi, IIRC, that was added later. I'm sure we'll see a PS5 revision with a larger amount of internal storage but I don't expect that will be significantly pre-announced and I won't be sympathetic for all the whiners who complain that their 825GB console is now useless because there is a 1.5TB console available. (And I have an 825 GB console, I'll live by that sword).


So yeah it's different, but it's different.

But for computers the best bet seems to be to buy based on current needs, and to be aware that there is something better coming down the pipe. There always is. That's how technology (and most products) work.

I would not be surprised to see Apple moving into a "lease" or "rental" model for hardware. That way people can pay a set fee each month and will always have recent hardware. Those people who always want the latest and greatest would have an easy option available to them at that point.

 

[deckard666]

Better is always next but better for who ? My partner still uses their iPhone 6 Plus every single day for hours and for his usage its fine. He wouldn't find a new iPhone 12 better for his needs and in some ways it would be worse for the financial cost and relearning some stuff as he's not a techie and likes the thumbprint security. Yearly (or bi-yearly) updates are a luxury for the well-heeled or professionals who genuinely need it.

 

[tollickd]

in one word No. Its like saying why get the iPhone now a new one will be out in 12 months and then when that's out you will be like a new one again will wait! What I do its if the current gen has what I want and will use then I will buy it, the next gun will always be faster and better in some way but as long as I am happy I don't care.

 

[Stella]

I mean Apple duped everyone with the M1 MAcBook Pro 13” like people are mad in less than 8 months here comes a 14” M1X with 4 USB4 aka Thunderbolt 4 ports. Like game over.
A 12 Core M1X and a 16 Core GPU.

I’d be furious.

Well, I bought a Mac Mini M1 and have zero regrets even if Apple did come out with a model in the next few months ( doubtful ). For the price and performance, it's a great machine.

If I'd purchased a 13" instead, I'd feel the same.

And no, Apple didn't dupe anyone.

 

[dougellison]

I mean Apple duped everyone with the M1 MAcBook Pro 13” like people are mad in less than 8 months here comes a 14” M1X with 4 USB4 aka Thunderbolt 4 ports. Like game over.
A 12 Core M1X and a 16 Core GPU.

I’d be furious.

OH MY GOD AND IN YEAR OR THREE THERE WILL BE AN M2 MAcBook Pro 13" LIKE GAME OVER.

 

[jerryk]

I mean Apple duped everyone with the M1 MAcBook Pro 13” like people are mad in less than 8 months here comes a 14” M1X with 4 USB4 aka Thunderbolt 4 ports. Like game over.
A 12 Core M1X and a 16 Core GPU.

I’d be furious.

It is called progress. We all knew that there would be other MBP models coming along.

No different than buying a car and they make a lot of features you paid for standard a year or so later. The car still drives that same and you had a year of usage and enjoyment. And someone buying next will get a new car will have things standard that some paid for this. And ....

And if you fret over losing out or overpaying on a $1500 computer, wait until it happens on a $70,000 car you bought 1 year ago.

 

[fel10]

I’m actually trading in my 16 in for a m1. Simply because I use my computer 90% connected to a monitor, so the size won’t be missed. I don’t need anything more powerful than the m1 when I’ll be using my computer mostly for browsing, school work, watch videos, emails, the basic stuff. Also the battery on my 16in is not really lasting as long as I would like. There will always be something better, but the m1 models will be more than enough for me for the next 4-5 years.

 

[garylapointe]

M1 Mac minis are $699 ($679 through education store.

I didn't make a mistake, I purchased mine on sale for $599.
It's why I easily decided 8GB, as even with education pricing it'd be 45% more for 16GB at $270 more!

Costco (and Amazon matched it for a few days I believe) had them on sale in late January or early Feb. feel free to check Slickdeals.net
Plus, Costco gave me a 2-year warranty and 90-days to return (in case I needed 16GB or the 16" M1X came out!).

 

[rhinosrcool]

I didn't make a mistake, I got mine on sale for $599.
It's why I easily decided 8GB, as even with education pricing it'd be 45% more for 16GB at $270 more!

Costco and Amazon had them on sale in late January or early Feb. feel free to check Slickdeals.net
Plus, Costco gave me a 2-year warranty and 90-days to return.

Great deal! Congrats.

 

[Chevysales]

....

I have zero regrets, the 14" is going to be more expensive, "and the M1 still beats all previous Macs in its class".

nah not all

 

[garylapointe]

Great deal! Congrats.

They’re $599 in the Costco store right now. 8GB/256GB with a 2-year warranty (saving $70 and getting a two-year warranty is worth the membership cost).

But it is not online, which is the opposite of what the deal was A few months ago (I had run up the store to get one, but none in stock). They do have the 8GB512GB in the store for $799 (but $200 is a lot for 256GB of storage, I picked up a 1050MBps 1TB SSD USB-C drive for $140 and it's pretty fast and $140 for a total of TB is a fraction of Apple [they want $400 for 0.75TB]).

 

[eltoslightfoot]

They’re $599 in the Costco store right now. 8GB/256GB with a 2-year warranty (saving $70 and getting a two-year warranty is worth the membership cost).

But it is not online, which is the opposite of what the deal was A few months ago (I had run up the store to get one, but none in stock). They do have the 8GB512GB in the store for $799 (but $200 is a lot for 256GB of storage, I picked up a 1050MBps 1TB SSD USB-C drive for $140 and it's pretty fast and $140 for a total of TB is a fraction of Apple [they want $400 for 0.75TB]).

THAT IS A STEAL!

 

[Mike Slayer]

I don't understand why anybody would get mad at Apple for this. The information is out for the world to see what is coming down the Apple pipeline for the most part. Just a little bit of research would cure their ignorance yet they choose to stay ignorant. The only person they can be mad with is themselves. I bought a 2020 MBP 13" Intel i7 with 32GB Ram and 1TB storage last year. The entire time I knew about the Apple silicon Mac's coming out. The decision I made was buy this MBP enjoy it and use it for the next two or three year's while keeping an eye out on what Apple does and how good it is. I do plan to upgrade to a 14" MBP next year or 2023 but I will still keep my intel 13" MBP since it will still be a solid machine like it has been since day one. One thing I have been amazed by with Apple computers are how well they run for so long. I have friends still running their same 2011 and 2012 MBP's. One of those friends bought his 2011 MBP at the same time I bought a 17" HP laptop. That computer went crazy in 2014 so I replaced it with an ASUS 17" gaming laptop which only lasted two year's. The Toshiba laptop I bought after the ASUS literally died in 2018. I was just tired of spending money on PC's. That same year I bought my first iPhone which was a 6s which was my computer until my Wife bought me a 7th gen iPad. Then the summer of 2020 after a lot of research and such I purchased the most expensive computer of my life. I was researching everything Apple and even early on I came across information on the Apple silicon based Macs. If anybody has any regret or anger it is most likely their own fault.

 

[TehFalcon]

nah not all

Yes it does.

 

[deckard666]

Mac residuals are always high so an easy financial upgrade if and when we they improve the current model if you suddenly feel its now garbage !!

 

[joptimus]

I'm waiting exactly because of that. From my point of view, it's a bad idea to buy the first M1 notebook since the redesign coming in 2021 was known and the app support will be a lot better then as well.

In principle, you can always wait, but some updates are meaningful and rare so it makes more sense to wait for them.

 

[theodric]

I mean Apple duped everyone with the M1 MAcBook Pro 13” like people are mad in less than 8 months here comes a 14” M1X with 4 USB4 aka Thunderbolt 4 ports. Like game over.
A 12 Core M1X and a 16 Core GPU.

I’d be furious.

Not at all. It will always be the case that 6 months after you buy something, another new thing exists. That is comprehensively not worth your, or anyone's, fury. Meanwhile, I have a fast laptop now.

 

[ericwn]

I'm waiting exactly because of that. From my point of view, it's a bad idea to buy the first M1 notebook since the redesign coming in 2021 was known and the app support will be a lot better then as well.

In principle, you can always wait, but some updates are meaningful and rare so it makes more sense to wait for them.

Which apps aren’t supported that you need in your current workflow?

 

[drdudj]

what type of user buys the newest computer? i think that has a lot to do with the basic question of this thread, "did i make a mistake buying the MBA M1? and should i have waited x number of months for the next model?"

if the buyer is a basic user; emails, messaging, web content, installed apps, then a high percentage of these buyers are going to not only be more than happy with not only the MBA M1, but any other computer they just purchased. i don't know what the average length of time a person keeps a computer, but i would classify myself as an average user, and before i purchased this MBA M1, i had used my toshiba laptop for the past 10 years, and the only reason i bought new was that it just got too slow with handling new web content, and there was an issue with keystrokes either double striking or not striking at all, and i would have to reboot to get the keystroke problem to go away. i imagine that this will be my last computer purchase.

but for those computer users who i consider to be power users, who do graphics, videos and other intensive programs, that as each advancement is made in the capabilities of these various programs they use, the computer needs to be capable of handling these programs, so a newer computer is needed. how often do these users need to buy new to keep up with the ever changing advancement in technology that allows them to do their work faster, better? these users are the ones, i would imagine, who are more concerned when they buy a new computer, and then 8 months later a new, faster, better computer comes out and they wish they would have waited.

 

[joptimus]

Which apps aren’t supported that you need in your current workflow?

Lightroom Classic
And Photoshop wasn't supported at launch either - as were many apps.

It's only natural that this takes time.

 

[ericwn]

Lightroom Classic
And Photoshop wasn't supported at launch either - as were many apps.

It's only natural that this takes time.

Do you mean not working or just not immediately available as a M1 optimised version? This was nowhere near the complexity of the last switch back 15 years ago from what it m reading here.