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14" Retina MBP

Mr MM said:
no, they prefer smaller laptops, the US and some other western countries prefer the 14
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What suggests 14" notebooks are popular in the US relative to 15 or 13" versions? I noticed Dell has some of them. An important point that all of you left out is aspect ratio. That has changed over time, and it influences the standard sizes, as they are measured diagonally. If you want to maintain the same height going from 16:10 to 16:9, it can alter the diagonal dimension, which Apple and some other brands round off to the nearest integer. Just arguing rounded diagonal measurements is relatively meaningless.
 
thekev said:
What suggests 14" notebooks are popular in the US relative to 15 or 13" versions? I noticed Dell has some of them. An important point that all of you left out is aspect ratio. That has changed over time, and it influences the standard sizes, as they are measured diagonally. If you want to maintain the same height going from 16:10 to 16:9, it can alter the diagonal dimension, which Apple and some other brands round off to the nearest integer. Just arguing rounded diagonal measurements is relatively meaningless.
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just by looking at the people asking for advice on what to buy and the model availability. While companies have their quirks and errors, size discrimination isnt one of them.

the most popular size in the US is the 15, though the 14 is popular when people are looking for portability (dont know why its a 1'' difference and usually thy have the same weight as 15 or just a little bit lower)

Although one OEM that I didnt mention is asus, they focus a lot on 14, however their most designed products are in the 13 line, although with ivy there have been too little for my tastes being supplanted by the zenbooks

The LG P330 is one that didnt get a review when ivy came, too bad it was a sporting dual core i5 and i7, with a gt555m, its very unfortunate, it was a very good model, although problematic with certain SSDs

What I would like to see on ivy is this one http://ultrabooknews.com/2013/02/06/nec-lavie-z-review-the-worlds-lightest-ultrabook/

my back and shoulders will appreciate that
 
The concept of a 14" MacBook Pro reminds me of the Galaxy Note, the neither-here-nor-there device that seems a bit bizarre and pointless to me.
 
MarcBook said:
The concept of a 14" MacBook Pro reminds me of the Galaxy Note, the neither-here-nor-there device that seems a bit bizarre and pointless to me.
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Perhaps pointless to you, but its rather popular. As I continue to read this thread I'm still not convinced that there's room within Apple's line up for a 14" MBP even if a fair number of folks like the idea of such a machine.
 
i think logically, the mac air 13" will be more eventually be the choice if you want a 13. rmbp will slowly loses its buyers....so i think the 14" would be the next perfect thing and eliminate the rmbp 13 all together
 
kensic said:
i think logically, the mac air 13" will be more eventually be the choice if you want a 13. rmbp will slowly loses its buyers....so i think the 14" would be the next perfect thing and eliminate the rmbp 13 all together
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and that wont happen, while one can increase in power the other is fairly limited, can you put a quad in the mba? no. the rmbp 13? yes.
 
It's all about trade offs, I love the screen real estate of my 15" rMBP but the footprint is a little too big for my liking, still I wouldn't go back to 13" just yet anyway.

As for a 14" rMBP, I don't think Apple would do it as it is too similar to what we have available.
What I do find interesting is the discontinuation of the 17" MBP. There always seems to be a considerable amount of people upset about it.
 
Mr MM said:
and that wont happen, while one can increase in power the other is fairly limited, can you put a quad in the mba? no. the rmbp 13? yes.
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air will never see quad cpu....thats why the 14 rmbp will have room for quad cpu. because i seriously doubt the 13 rmbp will see quad
 
kensic said:
air will never see quad cpu....thats why the 14 rmbp will have room for quad cpu. because i seriously doubt the 13 rmbp will see quad
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the 13 rmbp can do 35w cpus, there are 35w quads, problem?
 
Mr MM said:
the 13 rmbp can do 35w cpus, there are 35w quads, problem?
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anything CAN happen, even the air CAN do quad. but they wont, because of heat issues. so the 14 will give apple more room to play with.

once they put retina in the air, then boom 13rmbp will see a drop in sale immediately. so i foresee 13 rmbp will not be as desirable and apple wont put quad cpu in there, so i can see it being the least favorite of the laptop lineup
 
kensic said:
anything CAN happen, even the air CAN do quad. but they wont, because of heat issues. so the 14 will give apple more room to play with.

once they put retina in the air, then boom 13rmbp will see a drop in sale immediately. so i foresee 13 rmbp will not be as desirable and apple wont put quad cpu in there, so i can see it being the least favorite of the laptop lineup
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your post doesnt make sense, your logic is absent
 
kensic said:
anything CAN happen, even the air CAN do quad. but they wont, because of heat issues. so the 14 will give apple more room to play with.

once they put retina in the air, then boom 13rmbp will see a drop in sale immediately. so i foresee 13 rmbp will not be as desirable and apple wont put quad cpu in there, so i can see it being the least favorite of the laptop lineup
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Mr MM said:
your post doesnt make sense, your logic is absent
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I see what he's saying...

But, if that were to happen, why would Apple decrease sales for a machine that they can charge more for?

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boy-better-know said:
It's all about trade offs, I love the screen real estate of my 15" rMBP but the footprint is a little too big for my liking, still I wouldn't go back to 13" just yet anyway.

As for a 14" rMBP, I don't think Apple would do it as it is too similar to what we have available.
What I do find interesting is the discontinuation of the 17" MBP. There always seems to be a considerable amount of people upset about it.
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It's because 17" laptops generally have more problems.

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maflynn said:
Perhaps pointless to you, but its rather popular. As I continue to read this thread I'm still not convinced that there's room within Apple's line up for a 14" MBP even if a fair number of folks like the idea of such a machine.
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I agree. The 13" and 15" have a somewhat significant difference between them. Apple needs to keep it that way to force their customers to choose.
 
kensic said:
that's all you got to say or you got nothing else to comeback with?
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yes if the post is unintelligible it makes hard for one to argue with something that lacks content, or that its obscured by lack of syntax, or for a better word logic

but im an enabler lets see what i got:

1) you proposition is that the mba can handle quads in the future, we have no basis or comments on broadwell aside some snips regarding the change in the gpu and some other minor things, future line ups is even darker

2) Your idea is that people will stop buying rmbp 13 because the mba exist, both lines can coexist, although they are making less sense now than ever. We have to give time for a chassis change in the mba to be ascertain of that

3) your idea of a 14 is because suddenly a 1" space can handle more heat. Have you saw the sony vaio z13? or the LG p330, or the vaio z13 from 2010? nope.

4) Have you saw the thermal performance of the rmbp 13? its leaps and bounds improved regarding the cmbp

Side note I really dont care about prophecies, they dont have basis on reality
 
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xShane said:
I seriously doubt it. They have a 13" and a 15". Why make a 14" in between?
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11", 13' & 17" MAKES the BEST sense really. That should be the new line of MacBook Pros, sweet and simple - less is more etc etc...
 
Mr MM said:
yes if the post is unintelligible it makes hard for one to argue with something that lacks content, or that its obscured by lack of syntax, or for a better word logic

but im an enabler lets see what i got:

1) you proposition is that the mba can handle quads in the future, we have no basis or comments on broadwell aside some snips regarding the change in the gpu and some other minor things, future line ups is even darker

2) Your idea is that people will stop buying rmbp 13 because the mba exist, both lines can coexist, although they are making less sense now than ever. We have to give time for a chassis change in the mba to be ascertain of that


3) your idea of a 14 is because suddenly a 1" space can handle more heat. Have you saw the sony vaio z13? or the LG p330, or the vaio z13 from 2010? nope.


4) Have you saw the thermal performance of the rmbp 13? its leaps and bounds improved regarding the cmbp


Side note I really dont care about prophecies, they dont have basis on reality
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1) yes anything is possible, look at the mac mini, 2011 had a quad core cpu in there. if you haven't noticed, Apple tends to the impossible.

2) they can co-exist, til apple sees a drastic drop in sale on the rmbp 13, and eventually not worth making them if people dont buy them (why do you think the 17 isn't around anymore, people stopped buying them!

3) Yes, 1" space to apple is 2 acres of land. they have done marvels with space in the macbook air. imagine what they can do with adding another 1" into the rmbp 13.

4) another reason why 1" of space will only greatly benefit whatever decision apple decides to cramp in there. "oh how about we put a discrete gpu in there", giving the consumers what they have been asking.

but hey, each to it's own.
 
kensic said:
1) yes anything is possible, look at the mac mini, 2011 had a quad core cpu in there. if you haven't noticed, Apple tends to the impossible.

2) they can co-exist, til apple sees a drastic drop in sale on the rmbp 13, and eventually not worth making them if people dont buy them (why do you think the 17 isn't around anymore, people stopped buying them!

3) Yes, 1" space to apple is 2 acres of land. they have done marvels with space in the macbook air. imagine what they can do with adding another 1" into the rmbp 13.

4) another reason why 1" of space will only greatly benefit whatever decision apple decides to cramp in there. "oh how about we put a discrete gpu in there", giving the consumers what they have been asking.

but hey, each to it's own.
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1) no you dont understand the proposition of each product what they offer to each user.

2) they havent done anything in that sense, cooling is about heatpipes, fans and airflow. Interesting constricted airflow is much better for cooling, guess what a chassis that is slim can do.

3 and 4) I dont see apple putting a dgpu in the 13, they never did that in the mbp line.

What you dont see is the difference in focus of those 2 products, they overlap, sure, however one was designed with a complete different set of requirements than the other, and given that the new chassis for the mba approaches do you really think that they will make something that can handle quads? please.

The problem is that you believe too much on whatever you think you believe, and dont face what we have here to make what you think/desire is going to happen or not. Skylake is your best bet on whatever pipe dream you are on, and we dont have any info on that.

and you know the most probably line to disappear? mba. ultrabooks may be all the rage right now, but they weight the same as the rmbp, some less, some more, however they are not as powerful as the rmbp can be. So why keep manufacturing one machine that really has very low margins? The cpu in there cost the same as some non oem quads, the i7 model? almost the same price as the 3840qm, SSD standard? and the list goes on.
 
kensic said:
3) Yes, 1" space to apple is 2 acres of land. they have done marvels with space in the macbook air. imagine what they can do with adding another 1" into the rmbp 13.
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I suspect it would look pretty darn close to the 15" RetinaMBP especially if there is a scaled resolution that looks like 1920 by 1200.....might be slightly inferior to 15" but definitely better than the 13"....(in terms of colors, brightness distribution, the technical details found on notebookcheck review website). And I would love to see the speakers on the inside (not on the outside like the 13" RetinaMBP).

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14 inch laptops really isn't that rare as HP as made an ENVY series out of it (not that I am recommending them because I actually dislike them because of their products are just garbage in terms of hardware). Sony has them too on the SONY website and you can definitely get Full HD 1920 by 1080 resolution on a 14 inch. Some may argue that colors look dull, or that it isn't as eloquent as Samsung or Apple but for basic usage, it is incredible (non-professional media usage).
 
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