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Anyone think I have a chance of picking one of these up in an apple store without pre-ordering on 4th Nov launch day?
 
I bought my last Apple TV several years ago. For a device that use such a long time I honestly do not care if it is $50 more or less. But I do care, that I get the functionality that I want, which includes an ethernet port
Then buy the $149 version that is still cheaper than the any of the previous models.
 
While I agree with the above logic. Don't forget that the HomePod mini has Thread built-in as well.

For now. the Homepod Mini is also relatively 'old' at this point. ( e.g. the 'old' AppleTV 4K versions had it. )
If Apple revises the Homepod Mini and "full size" Homepod and it is still all there then ... yeah there are problems figuring a path.
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If Apple pushes Thread to the full size HomePod and drops it from the Mini then similar issues. [ wouldn't b e surprising if the larger Homepod didn't have to labor with an 'watch' SoC. ( just throw a A15 in there too. If the Studio Display gets a A13 + storage ... why not. ) . similarly, a new rumor that Apple is going to crank the AppleTV price down again on the next iteration ( If that is on the lower end. Might strip it out of the radio to shave money for the lower priced ( sub $100 ? ) model ).


Apple dropped the iPad from from a hub node. They are incrementally tweaking what they are doing with the "Home hub" path. And it isn't one complete , huge , "Big Bang" switch.


So I guess it just boils down to herding into the higher-priced option.

It is definitely a component.
 
I think the reason why Apple pushes Apple TV users to have larger SSDs is because of big gaming titles coming to Arcade soon.
This is what I was thinking too—or I should say hoping. Since I already have a Samsung Q7 series TV with it's own app store (including Apple TV+), getting an Apple TV is difficult to justify. Browsing the Arcade store left me underwhelmed. I'm hoping more compelling Arcade content will be coming soon. Seems like a lot of untapped potential there including in the education genre. Maybe Apple is getting geared up for it. 🤞
 
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