Yeah, maybe I'm wrong about the 14-day return policy. B&H has a 30-day return policy for defective products, which they have told some people applies here, but that's not the same as a policy that covers changing your mind, and some at B&H say all warranty issues are handled by Apple. So check first.
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15" 2016 TB MBP models now available on Apple's Refurbished Store
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Yeah, maybe I'm wrong about the 14-day return policy. B&H has a 30-day return policy for defective products, which they have told some people applies here, but that's not the same as a policy that covers changing your mind, and some at B&H say all warranty issues are handled by Apple. So check first.
B&H will do a return if you get a computer with a defect. I got one a few months back. It was for a custom config that they no longer had in stock, so they setup a RMA for a full refund. Very good customer service with those guys.
Oh, a tracking site sounds great! DO you have a favorite/one that has proven reliable?
Yeah it's understandable they would accept a return for defect, any retailer would do that, but regular returns is a no on PCs for them if it's opened. The benefit with them is the tax break.
As a side note, earlier I saw 23 2016 15" in the Apple refurb store, isn't it really early for this many returns showing up in March.
As a side note, earlier I saw 23 2016 15" in the Apple refurb store, isn't it really early for this many returns showing up in March.
Refurb-tracker and refurbme both work. The latter tends to churn up non-Apple results, and I haven't figured out how to turn that off.
Agreed.
On the bright side, these refurbished units probably underwent way more QC testing than the new ones, given Apple's lovingly anal with their refurbished products. I prefer refurbished over new actually...
Almost five months since they came out. Is that unusual?
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Took half over half a day last time I noticed, so you can walk to get the credit card!
I think what a lot of people need to ask themselves who returned these....is it worth re buying the same model you returned for whatever your reason and save yourself now between $360.00 to $420.00. I personally think that's a great savings. I just wish they didn't have software lag and keyboard issues. I miss that incredible display, especially going back to my 2009 Dell Studio argh.
I don't know about it being unusual but I figured there would be 2 or 3 maybe but at one time I saw over 20 and now it's about 16 sitting there. Something is really odd that there are so many of them and no one is buying them. The savings is great in my opinion so it can't be about the money. I know some here won't agree but people are not buying these like Apple wants you to think. All assumption on my part but I bet the return rate on these are a lot higher than we might think. If we continue to see 15-20 of these sitting in the refurb store over the next few months then something odd is going on that some people here don't want to admit.
The base 15" should be $1999 - in fact, that's what it should have cost when introduced. The pricing is still absurd for the value on offer.
We can't tell how many refurbs they're selling. Each entry is for a different variation for which they may have quite a few in stock. Early sales last November reportedly set records, so there were probably also a lot of early returns, especially since there were early busted speakers from Boot Camp and graphics issues, plus having a new kind of keyboard and larger trackpad that some people didn't like.
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Sheer nonsense. The base 15" with 512 GB is $100 more than the 2015, with easily a dozen improvements, including features the 2015 lacked completely.
Do the batteries and casing get replaced for the MacBooks like the iPhone refurbs? Or is it just a recycled return product?
Do you get a retail box?
Do you get a retail box?
I believe that both are replaced. I've never had more than a few charge cycles on a refurb, and they look brand new. As for the box, no. It's a nondescript brown box. If you didn't see that, you really couldn't tell a difference between new and refurb.
I don't think your conclusions are correct here. First of all, these are likely configs and not one and only MBP's. You seeing 20 of these in the store means there are likely many untold number of these that fall within those 20 configs onscreen. When a config is no longer available it is gone. We have no idea of knowing how many of these were sold. Second, Apple has sold millions of these. So yes, there will be more than 15-20 returned out of those millions. Every single return seems to be documented on MR so there must be thousands here alone. But we don't really know how many again.
I'm not seeing some conspiracy by Apple you're alluding to, this is business as usual for every company. They are intentionally vague about returns and sales of specific units for competitive reasons, not to make Apple loyalists happy. Literally every company that has any competitors does this. Nothing "odd" going on here. Not sure why you are suspicious. Saw your earlier post about these refurbs being released early. Again, not sure what that means whether it's early or late or right on.
I've heard people have been waiting for refurbs, so this is all good news right?
FYI for today only B&H has a new one 15" only for $300 minus no sales tax outside of NY if i'm not mistaken.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1293727-REG/apple_mlh42ll_a_15_4_macbook_pro_with.html
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1293727-REG/apple_mlh42ll_a_15_4_macbook_pro_with.html
The 13" MBPr I am using is a refurbished, all refurbished computers and ipads come in the same white box as retail it just says "Refurbished" on the box. As for the quality, if I put the two same models next to one another the only way to tell the difference is the serial number sequence. Refurbs supposedly start off with a different sequence for identification purpose's.
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I'll second that, if you snooze you loose on the refurbished one's. I'm waiting on a 15" entry level but with 512 instead of 256 and only seeing the latest models.
Also Apple could be pushing all of these out because of the newer processor coming in something in the next couple of month's.
I don't think they replace the batteries or cases. I have gotten units 6 or 7 battery cycles on them. Since they are returns in the 14 day window, that sounds like a reasonable number.
They do check them out thoroughly.
I don't think new MBP's will come in months like you said, it's most likely going to be 8 months available in Nov 2017. History shows they only released updated MBP one time at WWDC in June a long time ago.
They are returns, but I don't think they are all from the 14 day window, are they? The fact that the cases look immaculate is what tells me what they are sometimes replaced. People just aren't that careful.
As for the batteries, maybe it's possible they run them through tests? The one I got yesterday has 7 cycles too.
You could be right and I'm just way off here. Perhaps anything outside the 14 day window just gets stripped down for parts. Either way, they are close enough to new for me to be happy. I noticed they even changed the boxes from old brown ones to white ones that have "refurbished" in tiny print. I wouldn't buy a refurb from almost anyone else, but Apple's are great.
Thats not what I said, usually apple starts putting the current model in the refurbished section at the 6 month + time frame. Like all you see in the 13 and 15 inch MBP section is the new over priced MBP
Ok this is what you said:
"Also Apple could be pushing all of these out because of the newer processor coming in something in the next couple of month's."
So your saying the newer processor is coming in "something" in the next couple months so that might be why Apple is pushing these out in the refurb store. Perhaps you should be more clearer in your writing so all people that read understand what your trying to say. Your quote is actually very vague probably why no one responded. The reader should not have to decipher what "something" is....
In any case none of it really matters, there is still a boatload (19 to be specific as of this writing) of these 15" 2016 MBP's in the refurb store...it still looks very odd to me why so many of these are for sale.
If you guys download the Battery app in the App Store, it will tell you the build date, battery cycle count, etc.
I've gotten one with 17 cycles, Dec 1 build date; and another with 4 cycles, Oct 1 build date. Both exteriors looked immaculate, but the Oct 1 came with a small scratch on the bottom lid. Both keyboards feel slightly wonkier than a brand new MacBook. Otherwise, it would be hard to tell the difference.