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My 12 year old MBA has 256GB SSD, and is running Ventura perfectly well. How far we've come. You just keep at it Timmy, I cant wait to see what new stuff great Apple is making 12 years from now!

Maybe a new 2035 MBA with 256GB SSD? Wouldn't that be great? Gee I hope Timmy thinks of doing that 12 years from now!
 
I'm not following the analogy. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Storage performance has never really been a metric Apple touts in their devices. At least not that I can remember. Food ingredients are not analogous to computer components. I mean if you're calling out every ingredient and how you sourced it from the finest whatever and took painstaking care in it's sourcing preparation. Sure. But Apple isn't doing that. This analogy makes no sense in relation to Apples actual marketing. lol.

Apple definitely touted storage performance with M1. They proudly claimed it was "up to 2X faster" previous gen MacBook Air.

Apple stopped claiming that with M2.

 
Apple definitely touted storage performance with M1. They proudly claimed it was "up to 2X faster" previous gen MacBook Air.

Apple stopped claiming that with M2.

Oh wow, that's hilarious thanks !
 
Apparently same situation with the new M2 Studio. Just got the base Max with the 512GB SSD. Read/writes are in the 3,000-3,500 MB/s range which is only a bit faster than the 512 GB MBA. My M2 MBP 16 with the 1TB SSD runs in the 5,000-6,000 MB/s range. While I agree this difference doesn't matter to many (most?) users, it kinda sucks that the SSD in the mighty Studio is barely faster than an MBA with the same storage capacity.
 
Oh wow, that's hilarious thanks !

It wasn't some randomly hidden text in the footnote either. Apple blasted that message about M1 having a fast SSD. I think some people simply forgot or just wasn't paying attention.

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Apparently same situation with the new M2 Studio. Just got the base Max with the 512GB SSD. Read/writes are in the 3,000-3,500 MB/s range which is only a bit faster than the 512 GB MBA. My M2 MBP 16 with the 1TB SSD runs in the 5,000-6,000 MB/s range. While I agree this difference doesn't matter to many (most?) users, it kinda sucks that the SSD in the mighty Studio is barely faster than an MBA with the same storage capacity.
Correct, M2 pro also has SSD that's twice as slow as its predecessor

Again, funny how they touted 7k Mbps with M1 pro, only to divide it by 2 with the next release

What did you use to test ? Amorphous or black magic? My MBA M1 gets the same speeds (512gb)
 
Correct, M2 pro also has SSD that's twice as slow as its predecessor

Again, funny how they touted 7k Mbps with M1 pro, only to divide it by 2 with the next release

What did you use to test ? Amorphous or black magic? My MBA M1 gets the same speeds (512gb)
I used Blackmagic on all three: the M2 MBA 512, the M2 MBP 16 1TB, and the M2 Studio Max 512
 
It wasn't some randomly text hidden in the footnote either. Apple blasted that message about M1 having a fast SSD. I think some people simply forgot or just wasn't paying attention.

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really shameful of them

oh I didn't pay attention either (I didnt ask about it though), at that time I wasn't an apple user

and I'd never buy a product based on apple numbers lol
 
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My 12 year old MBA has 256GB SSD, and is running Ventura perfectly well. How far we've come. You just keep at it Timmy, I cant wait to see what new stuff great Apple is making 12 years from now!

Maybe a new 2035 MBA with 256GB SSD? Wouldn't that be great? Gee I hope Timmy thinks of doing that 12 years from now!
I can't stand this Timmy sh*t. Trying to denigrate and belittle the guy running one of the most successful tech companies in the world only shows immaturity. What is this? Playground name calling? Jeez.
 
After the past few releases, I think this should've been seen a mile away by everyone. The bottom line is that if you are the sort of person who would be satisfied with 256GB of storage then you probably will never notice any shortcomings it might have. If you are the sort of person who would see, you probably should've upgraded to 512 or 1TB+.
 
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Ohh No ! what a tragedy ! how ever will this not become a problem for apple...

Because it won't. when you're below 500mb a second THEN complain. but it is FAR faster than this. MaxTech is a clueless idiot who only cares about making money and clickbait. he is EVERYTHING that is wrong with the Mac community, elitism!
 
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If Apple had kept the base model M1 machines to have the same slower SSD speeds as the base M2 models, the backlash would have been lesser.

I wonder why they didn’t do that in the first place? Would have saved on costs, as well.
Apple keeps the M1 to keep a MacBook available for less than $1000, this is quickly becoming redundant now that the M2 Air is $1100, perhaps they'll always keep a generation older chip on the $1000 model or just drop the aging 13" MacBook Pro to that price point.
Apple definitely touted storage performance with M1. They proudly claimed it was "up to 2X faster" previous gen MacBook Air.

Apple stopped claiming that with M2.

There's a lot of things they wanted to brag about over previous gen Intel Macs, like the same 720p cameras had better processing, or the new Mac Pro has a 6 times faster processor than the 4 year old models.
Did we all forget the 5400 RPM iMac debacle that lasted for years? This is nothing in comparison to that rip-off.
There were a lot of hiccups in the iMac design in the later years including that, guess why they've virtually abandoned the higher range models.
 
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Max Tech got the MBA and went right for the click bait. No review, no running apps, no listening to the speakers. They just tore it apart looking for the problem that got them plenty of views with the 13 inch. It’s kinda pathetic, but this kind of thing is what people like, I guess.
 
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Apple definitely touted storage performance with M1. They proudly claimed it was "up to 2X faster" previous gen MacBook Air.

Apple stopped claiming that with M2.

Call me crazy but "up to 1x as fast as previous gen MacBook Air" doesn't seem like a great selling point. Are you mad that they didn't promote a non-feature? They're not going to keep comparing to the Intel Air every time, and not every feature gets a big bump with each release. This is hardly rocket science.
 
Call me crazy but "1x as fast as previous gen MacBook Air" doesn't seem like a great selling point. Are you mad that they didn't promote a non-feature? They're not going to keep comparing to the Intel Air every time, and not every feature gets a big bump with each release. This is hardly rocket science.
they keep comparing it to intel

and we're not talking about big bump or any bump, this is a literal downgrade by a magnitude of 2 .

the new iteration gets a SSD that's twice slower , 3 years later.
 
they keep comparing it to intel
Where did they compare the M2 Air to the Intel Air? I must have missed that. Was it in the Keynote or something?

EDIT: My mistake, they do still compare it to Intel machines a lot on their website. That's dumb, they shouldn't do that.


and we're not talking about big bump or any bump, this is a literal downgrade by a magnitude of 2 .

the new iteration gets a SSD that's twice slower , 3 years later.
That only applies to one config, and the solution is simple — don't get the base config. If you're going to be transferring such huge files that this will have any noticeable impact on your usage, you shouldn't be getting a 256GB machine in the first place. How often are you transferring 20, 30, 40+ GB files on and off the machine anyway? Seriously, it's a non-issue. The only people who would be meaningfully impacted by the single chip config are the people who wouldn't be buying that spec of machine in the first place.
 
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