15" Retina i7 Quad Core/3.7Ghz /768GB SSD 16GB for $2150 a good price?

Discussion in 'Buying Tips and Advice' started by ilu21, Nov 6, 2014.

  1. ilu21 macrumors newbie

    Feb 9, 2014
    I found a super maxed out Retina on Craigslist for this price. It'b obviously out of my budget/price range but I'm willing to go up to $1500-$1600 to buy this Mac.

    What is it realistically worth? What major things do I need to look out for in order to protect myself and get a good deal on this Mac? Thanks!
  2. gnasher729 macrumors P6


    Nov 25, 2005
    Depends on the age. Could be 2 years old, could be 3 months old. 3.7GHz is obviously the "Turbo" speed (Apple advertises two speeds, a low speed that can be used 24/7 and a higher speed for short term).

    A good first check is to see how much an equivalent refurbished Mac would cost you.
  3. ilu21 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Feb 9, 2014
    Yeah, that's the problem..nothing in the refurb store is comparable. closest one would be the 2.8, 16gb, 1tb for $2700

    How much is it worth if it's 2 years old vs. 3 months old? I def haven't factored that into my decision making yet. Just basing off of specs, clean serial #, # of battery cycle charges for now..

    I have a feeling it's going to take a while to look but I don't mind taking my time to finding the right one for me since I'll be using this machine everyday for the next 5-8 years.
  4. magbarn macrumors 68000

    Oct 25, 2008
    My biggest concern with a machine that old (I'm pretty sure that's a 2012 Ivy Bridge model) is the condition of the batteries. Run coconut battery on it.
  5. AdrianK macrumors 68020

    Feb 19, 2011
    I'd have the same concern, then again it may still be cheaper to buy this machine and pay Apple the $199 for a replacement battery.
  6. gnasher729 macrumors P6


    Nov 25, 2005
    If you assume for arguments sake that the MBP will work for five years, then a 2 year old one will work for 3 years, and a 3 month old one will work for 4 3/4 years. I'd say the purchase price should be divided by the years you expect it to work.

    If you have a serial number, you should be able to find a website that will tell you when it was built, for example http://www.appleserialnumberinfo.com/Desktop/index.php (not a recommendation, just a Google result).

    If you use the MacBook mainly or exclusively at your desk, battery quality may be less important.
  7. magbarn macrumors 68000

    Oct 25, 2008
    Why? When the OP can get the refurb with a new battery for $2339?
    I'd pass on this unless the seller was willing to lower the price by a few hundred dollars, apple store right now has a refurb 2014 rMBP 15 with a much faster and cooler running haswell 2.8 ghz CPU, much quicker intel iris pro igpu when on battery power, slightly quicker nvidia gpu, better battery life, smaller but much faster 512gb pcie ssd, and comes with a 1 year warranty for only $100 more
  8. ilu21 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Feb 9, 2014
    Yeah I checked the refurb store and saw that same price. This guy called me telling me all about it and told me he's a reseller. He was straight trying to hustle me and I told him straight up that the price needs to come down and he gave me a $2295 as the best price for a maxed out model that he has with 2 battery cycles. I noped out of there. He sounded sketchy and so was his story. I'm continuing to look.
  9. ilu21 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Feb 9, 2014
    Seller has lowered the price to $1991 from $2150. Battery cycle is around 350 out of 1000? That's a little too heavy of use for me, but if he's willing to lower the price a couple hundred, would this be a good buy at $1500-1600?

    I honestly don't even need the amount of power and software the machine he's offering me. I'm that guy that always gets the next option; would you like a large coke, fries with that? Yes please. That's me.
  10. StockDC2 macrumors regular

    May 16, 2011
  11. Naimfan Suspended


    Jan 15, 2003
    If there is no warranty remaining, stay away.

    If there is Applecare remaining, it might be worth $1700 if perfect and complete wih box, etc. Without box, I wouldn't do more than $1600 if perfect, or $1500 if it has normal usage wear.
  12. ilu21 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Feb 9, 2014
    I believe it is a mid-2012. 350 battery cycle usage (which IMO is A LOT). He's not willing to budge on the price. And I'm not touching that with a 10 foot pole at $2k
  13. thekev macrumors 604


    Aug 5, 2010
    I don't think you should budget that way. 8 years is completely unrealistic due to the potential for component failure and Apple's vintage policy regarding hardware service. I would suggest budgeting based on 3 years of service and get as much additional time out of it as you can.

    You never know how long a battery will actually last. The one on my 2011 (which is now dying of gpu failure) lasted roughly three and a half years. It had a bit over 500 cycles, and it was dipping below 80% health. It was also expanding. Regardless of cycle count, if the battery is more than a couple years old, I would keep in mind that you're likely to replace it during the time you own that machine. Battery service for the rmbp is $200 in the US if serviced by Apple. It's also a good idea to check the charger for kinks. I've had frayed chargers before. Results vary, but I take my notebook with me quite often. I'm careful with the cord, but their chargers are cheaply manufactured. Also for whatever reason they don't use cord reliefs, which might cut down on fraying.
  14. Brian Y macrumors 68040

    Oct 21, 2012
    Bear in mind too that quite a few people have started (yet again) to report graphics issues on the 2012 retinas.
  15. ilu21 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Feb 9, 2014
    Warranty is good until Aug 2015.

    Why stay without a warranty?

    Also, if you wouldn't offer more than $1500 for normal usage..what would you offer for a, say for example, 2.5 ghz, 512 SSD, 8 Gb RAM Retina?
  16. Spink10 Suspended


    Nov 3, 2011
    You stay away from no warranty - because even after you check it out there many be a major problem that you cant always replicate in the few minutes you examine laptop.
  17. StockDC2 macrumors regular

    May 16, 2011
    This guy hit the nail on the head. $1600 would be a good price if the computer is in perfect condition and $1500 if it has normal wear.

    Also, 350 cycles on a mid 2012 isn't high at all. Although cycle count is an indication of use, you'd be much better off running CoconutBattery and finding out the charge capacity.

    My advice would be to move on. I believe 2012 models were prone to display issues.

    If you're serious about getting a good deal on Craigslist, download a notifier app. I've gotten some pretty insane deals that way.
  18. SD-B, Nov 9, 2014
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2014

    SD-B macrumors 6502


    Apr 1, 2009
    what sort of app are you referring to?

    I have both kijiji and CL apps on my phones that apparently do that but i find they never send me a notification right away. Its like a day later :confused:

    if there is a known top app that will notify immediately, please let me know
  19. ilu21 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Feb 9, 2014
    Yeah the battery life isn't very good and I would assume it's a bitch to change it on your own. I gotta do a little more research on that part and taking my time on finding the right fit for me. I appreciate you posting!


    What is this Coconut Battery you speak of? An aftermarket company for Mac batteries?

    And what's the notifier called? I'm just doing the old fashioned way of checking craigslist everyday.
  20. thekev macrumors 604


    Aug 5, 2010
    Well it depends. I could probably change the battery in one myself, but I would have to use whatever batteries are available as aftermarket purchases. Apple doesn't consider batteries to be user serviceable items on the new ones, so they only sell battery service to customers, not batteries as spare parts.

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