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15inch PowerBook update at MWCP (Macworld Creative Pro)

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FYI, I'll be at the MacCreate event (or whatever it's called now) on Friday and I would LOVE to see a new PowerMac (or ANYTHING ELSE that's new for that matter). So, don't get me wrong, I'd love for Apple to come out with new stuff EVERY DAY if possible (the multiple "Tuesday Updates" were a lot of fun).

However, from a BUSINESS STAND-POINT, I also know that if Apple did this all year long then they would stop making money and then we would not have ANY MORE Apple Computers. I would certainly not be happy about THAT!
 
Originally posted by Ikash
oh say your going to callage and your rents want to buy you a computer, and the laptop you want isn't out yet and your gona need one for school what do you do. buy another one. you say apple won't loose buisness well i've been reading these rumor sites and everyone pretty much has reasons why they want the new laptops out. if the reasons good enough where where they don't have time to wait then there gona lose buisness. you may be right people don't buy computers every year but this is the age of you buy a computer and in a few months it will be obsolite. i mean alot of people who don't use it for nothing more than word and aol but for people who need the newest good stuff like me time is an issue
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And if your parents do buy you that computer for callage (sic), be sure that they spring for the word processor with spelling and grammar checks too. Those features can really come in handy.;)
 
Apple does not lose huge amounts of sales over this type of thinking
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in a buisness no matter how big or small your always wanting to make a profit say in small town buisness someone comes to you for something, your prob gona do all you can do to get that buisness. sam walton knew this and now hes company is the biggest in the world. as you say apple doesn't lose a huge amount well any loss is BAD. im a new apple and really like there products but i have to be realistic with what i have to accomplish and my timeline.
 
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"If someone feels that the choice is between the NEXT GENERATION MAC and a CURRENT GENERATION PC then, by all means, buy the PC and get it over with. Apple does not lose huge amounts of sales over this type of thinking. I know people that think they'll wait until the computers get JUST A LITTLE better and they have never bought ANYTHING yet. How much money can you lose from not selling to someone like this?"

A lot. If this is Apple's thinking, then it is understandable why they have less than 2% of the market share.

People want and need stability. They need to know when they spend money that they wont wake up tomorrow to find out that something newer and better is available. They need to know when that newer and better thing will be availble so they can plan accordingly: spend for usable slower equipment now, or save for faster equipment later. Most people, given the choice, will spend for use now.

The best thing Apple could do for its user base is to lay out their hardware development roadmap at least a year in advance. A general level of detail is sufficient: powermac G5s in Q3, update to powerbooks in Q3. New powerbook G5s in Q2, 2004. New ibooks in Q1, 2004. Steve and rumor sites will still be able to introduce/speculate about specifics.

Take the current situation: I was all prepared to purchase a 15" Ti until I checked the rumor sites and saw that a new PB is expected realsoonnow. I have lost the use of that new PB for a 1 month, Apple has lost the use of my money for a month. A month isnt much, but others on this board appear to have been waiting longer than a month...who knows how much this adds up to in time/value of $$ terms.

As FUD is created by the various rumor sites about the possiblity of new PBs less people will buy. If you check the apple store, the 12" has been dropping down the best seller list.

What is this all called? Mindshare, and Apple is not very good at the game.

Cheers
 
Funny

OK, this may sound a bit harsh -- but get a life!

Let people know exactly what the roadmap is for the next year?!?!?

HAHAHAHAHA!

Show me ANY COMPUTER MANUFACTURER'S ROADMAP FOR THE NEXT YEAR!!! You are hilarious (and not very business minded).

Every computer product will "slip down the popularity list" as time progresses. IN FACT, what you propose will GUARANTEE THAT IT WILL DO SO EVEN MORE! If you tell everyone the exact date that every new model will come out then NO-ONE WILL BUY your older stock and you will GO BANKRUPT! The only reason that we (as Rumors followers -- although some ARE still NEWBIES), can talk about our THEORIES about release dates is because we hang around UNOFFICIAL SITES.

If I had a dollar for every time that a NEWBIE criticised Steve Jobs and Apple's business plan, I would be as rich as Steve (and, in fact, that is the ONLY WAY that any of us here would ever get that rich!)

There are probably less than 100 people on the planet that have the business charisma for marketing an Apple-Type product that Steve Jobs has. When you succeed at your first MILLION DOLLAR business plan (much less a BILLION DOLLAR plan, for that matter), then you can criticise Apple's business plan all you want.

However, that said, post all you want about your REAL WORLD wishes, just keep in mind that Apple and Steve Jobs are not politicians. It does them NO GOOD to say that we will provide you with EVERYTHING YOU CAN DREAM UP and it WILL BE FREE TO THE WORLD! Saying "logical" things like this only gets you elected.
 
did i mention in my postes that they need specific dates, i know if any company puts dates on when updates will happen not to good for buisness but after a while they need to release dates or put upcoming events not dates even sometimes so they public know that its comming soon so they may wait. just becasue im a newbee doesn't mean i don't know buisness.

im in charge of a Virtual Reality department at the UofA and i also run my own hotel buisness tech support company,

so don't you dare critisice me on someone else buisness plans

There are probably less than 100 people on the planet that have the business charisma for marketing an Apple-Type product that Steve Jobs has. When you succeed at your first MILLION DOLLAR business plan (much less a BILLION DOLLAR plan, for that matter), then you can criticise Apple's business plan all you want.
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your right steve jobs is great at marketing and also has a great company but beacuse of my timeline were getting a grant for a 5 million dollar grant for my LAB so don't think you me
 
not trying to be pissy but its also hard for me to imagine any reason why theyd have a hold up. im not saying i know everything but i do know some stuff in buisness and i guess were just gona have to wait and see what happens, i think that apple comes out with great products and waiting will be the best but people do have timelines they may not let you know but i bet they do hvae something up there sleves
 
Well at least you're a 'member' now . . .

Since nothing else constructive is coming of this thread, at least the multiple posts in this thread have moved you to 'member' status. Congratulations!

However, I'm actually the General Manager of a 250 room Full-Service Beachfront Hotel as well as a Certified Hotel Administrator. A word of advice, unless you want to combine the two positions you mentioned and do IT work in a Virtual Reality World, there'd be no need to send your Hotel IT business proposal my way if it's going to be written like your previous posts.

You've now hit right into the area that *I AM* an expert in so that's the end of the road for the posts in this thread for me. Otherwise, I won't be able to resist getting personal.
 
hehehe. how long til you guys pull down your jockeys and whip out the yardstick?

it's all in good fun people.... don't take the boards too seriously :)
 
Re: Well at least you're a 'member' now . . .

Originally posted by BigJayhawk
You've now hit right into the area that *I AM* an expert in so that's the end of the road for the posts in this thread for me. Otherwise, I won't be able to resist getting personal.
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I got back up my fellow newbie. I think it may already b a little personal. We are here to follow rumors about what apple may or may not be doing, not to attack eachother.

edit: fixed spelling, need built in spell check for the web.
 
Re: Re: Well at least you're a 'member' now . . .

Originally posted by jzieske
We are here tto follow rumors about what apple may or may not be doing, not to attack eachother.
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I agree, exactly my point. Moving on . . .
 
Of course the dell dude can come North to get some of our stash. Now that JC is giving it away...ltd time offer.

Bring on the upgraded PB.:D
 
You've now hit right into the area that *I AM* an expert in so that's the end of the road for the posts in this thread for me. Otherwise, I won't be able to resist getting personal.
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bigjaywalk well i know im not a good speller but i can't help that i speek 3 langues im having grant people. and for the getting personal part my family owns hotels so i think i know what im doing. we use the vr system to potentiolly teach and teaching over a NETWORK thats what i use my skills. im not puting the hotel thing in the proposal. but it does requre some network know how
 
ikash etc chill, this is a friendly banter about powerbooks, at least it was at the start.:p
 
what if.......

What if Apple drops the 15"

I mean, maybe they have extended the update to oust inventory and make way for 17" and 12" updates since, perhaps they have been selling in good #'s.

Why do the R&D if there is no certainty that the G5's will be the same form-factor.....plus the 15.4" screens are actually less-expensive to produce now.

And even if they do update tomorrow, why put up the money if you have a 667 or 800, etc. Especially considering that they boot to 9.....

I would love to buy an updated 15 if it is available but I can't wait until Sept to get it. SO I MUST SUFFER THE WRATH OF GETTING A 1GHZ. ~BOO HOO~

then again, I have heard of customer loyalty...I mean, who in their right mind would get a Dell.. thats not even viable
 
I don't know how this has gone on this long without it coming to one of us moderators attention, but chill out guys.

Further OT discussion will be deleted...
 
Delete the whole thread...please.

The 15" powerbook update rumor is old and stale. Remember the iPod update way back when? This is the same.
Lets just say that they will be updated next Tuesday and if they don't someone else can post that they will be updated the following Tuesday and when the next show comes up someone will announce a new update then.
OMG I'm getting :mad:

Please the little voice in my head is telling me to keep going on and on and on and on.
 
In order to save on costs it would be easy to simply put the same processor into Powerbooks, instead of 1,3 GHz or whatever.
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Unfortunately if it was as simple as that their would have been a update to 1.25 by now.

The 1.25 from the current g4's is likely to run hotter and use more power than the 1Ghz. Too much? who knows but probably a lot more difficult then a simple replacement. But the 1.3 by reputation should be something like the 1ghz in terms of power and heat and could be as simple as plugging it in.
 
Moderators,
DELETE THIS THREAD !

There is no information nor intelligent speculation. Just emotions. This is not what we are here for.

Moderators,
DELETE THIS THREAD !
 
MWCP Feature Presentation over. Nothing new in hardware land. Everyone go back to sleep. Nothing to see here.
 
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