I think I spotted the outlier year: 2017. What do I win?2012: Lightning Port Introduced
2012: 8GB MBP
2015: 8GB MBP
2017: 16GB MBP (base model)
2020: 8GB MBP
2021: 8GB MBP
2022: 8GB MBP
11/2023: 8GB MBP
Good. I hate external disks too, even SSD’s (Sandisk are almost as fast - 2050mb/s but not even near 6000mb/s plus I hate dongles they’re not handy). Why only 4TB though? You’ll be maxed out in no time. And in a few months you’ll regret not pulling the trigger on the 8TB.Yeah I just placed an order for a high end model and with AppleCare it clocked in at just under £6k. I don't mind the RAM costs as it's direct on the silicon but the thing that smarts is the SSD. But I don't want to use an external and 2TB has not been enough with my Mac Studio so I had to go up to 4TB. Stuck between a rock and a hard place.
By the way, as a sanity check, while chatting to a friend just now, I worked out what the cost of my first MacBook Pro would have been today with inflation. It was a mid range 15.4" 2008 Unibody stock. That came in at £1749 at the time. Today, with CPI based inflation, that works out to be £2725 which puts it smack bang between the two 16" M3 Pro options. So they haven't got 'more' expensive in real terms in the decade and a half since then. The line is much more broad though, starting a fair chunk lower and ending a fair chunk higher but it's now possible to get workstation level performance in a laptop that was just not possible a decade ago.
whats wrong with an external drive? You literally can save thousand of dollars by using a small portable drive. Justification for using 4 or even 8TB of internal memory only seems very ridiculous.Good. I hate external disks too, even SSD’s (Sandisk are almost as fast - 2050mb/s but not even near 6000mb/s plus I hate dongles they’re not handy). Why only 4TB though? You’ll be maxed out in no time. And in a few months you’ll regret not pulling the trigger on the 8TB.
The has nothing to do with anything.The cost to upgrade is high, indeed, but the competition doesn’t have expenses related to OS development, App Store, iCloud, data centers, and so on — they have to make a profit from somewhere.
One caveat is that you can't get a laptop with a 124GB (ish) video graphics. I don't think you can get a desktop GPU at that either. How much is it worth to you? That will but up to the purchaser.So an extra 80GB of memory (48GB + 80GB upgrade = 128GB max) will cost you $1,000? 😲
That's $12.50 per 1GB 😲
I know how much my company pays for my health insurance, and this is starting to be comparable in price. As in, how much of a macbook pros can you get for a year of health insurance?I'd imagine this isn't the sort of laptop the average consumer would be looking for. Rather more businesses for whom $7-grand is pocket change.
Good. I hate external disks too, even SSD’s (Sandisk). Why only 4TB though? You’ll be maxed out in no time. And in a few months you’ll regret not pulling the trigger on the 8TB.Yeah I just placed an order for a high end model and with AppleCare it clocked in at just under £6k. I don't mind the RAM costs as it's direct on the silicon but the thing that smarts is the SSD. But I don't want to use an external and 2TB has not been enough with my Mac Studio so I had to go up to 4TB. Stuck between a rock and a hard place.
By the way, as a sanity check, while chatting to a friend just now, I worked out what the cost of my first MacBook Pro would have been today with inflation. It was a mid range 15.4" 2008 Unibody stock. That came in at £1749 at the time. Today, with CPI based inflation, that works out to be £2725 which puts it smack bang between the two 16" M3 Pro options. So they haven't got 'more' expensive in real terms in the decade and a half since then. The line is much more broad though, starting a fair chunk lower and ending a fair chunk higher but it's now possible to get workstation level performance in a laptop that was just not possible a decade ago.
whats wrong with an external drive? You literally can save thousand of dollars by using a small portable drive. Justification for using 4 or even 8TB of internal memory only seems very ridiculous.
It's quite expensive, but also remember this spec is the best and most powerful MacBook Pro Apple has ever made. It's hard to imagine Apple introducing a new high-end chip anytime soon that can surpass this awe-inspiring performance.
This literally is the best laptop anyone has ever made. And obviously this level of amazing performance is going to cost a few bucks.
I use my computers also for video, audio and graphic work. And even those emails and reports are professional paid work. Learn something every day. Carrying gigabytes of raw footage in internal memory doesn't make you pro.Good. I hate external disks too, even SSD’s (Sandisk). Why only 4TB though? You’ll be maxed out in no time. And in a few months you’ll regret not pulling the trigger on the 8TB.
Says someone who uses entry-level MBPs for amateur use (Office and emails).
It is very wrong in the sense that you have to have your files in different places, quite annoying.
Also Dropbox stopped supporting external disk sync which further complicates things.
And lastly as already mentioned, even the fastest external SSDs are not as fast Apple’s internal SSD (which for heavy programming and music production / hires video editing is a deal breaker).
I only keep an external disk for my continuous TimeMachine backups + Dropbox Business. Multiplying external disks would be a waste of time and space (and logic).
I use an external SSD drive for all my User folders. Best way I found to work with 3 Macs in 2 locations. 1 MBP and 2 minies. 1 at home and 1 at the studio. Cloud sync is not that great when you work with large media files.Good. I hate external disks too, even SSD’s (Sandisk are almost as fast - 2050mb/s but not even near 6000mb/s plus I hate dongles they’re not handy). Why only 4TB though? You’ll be maxed out in no time. And in a few months you’ll regret not pulling the trigger on the 8TB.
M4 will.
Of course. But what are kidneys going for?too rich for my blood
To each their own. Whenever I skimp on SSD, I find myself constantly moving FCP projects back and forth between external and internal SSD because I keep running out of space. But that's just the nature of my work.whats wrong with an external drive? You literally can save thousand of dollars by using a small portable drive. Justification for using 4 or even 8TB of internal memory only seems very ridiculous.
I use an external SSD drive for all my User folders. Best way I found to work with 3 Macs in 2 locations. 1 MBP and 2 minies. 1 at home and 1 at the studio. Cloud sync is not that great when you work with large media files.
To each their own. Whenever I skimp on SSD, I find myself constantly moving FCP projects back and forth between external and internal SSD because I keep running out of space. But that's just the nature of my work.
So I finally maxed out my current MBP (and my wife got a really nice, slightly used, M1 Max with 4TB). I haven't regretted it (and she finally stopped complaining about Intel-MBP fan noise...ha ha).
That said...I have a heck of a time trying to max out my CPU or GPU. I can't get Final Cut Pro nor Compressor to use the full M2 Max (or even close). And I still, almost inexplicably, get hiccups and beach balls.
So at this point, I'm not sure if I'll ever notice the difference with an M3...at least until the software that I use better utilizes the hardware. In the meantime...for many workflows, there's a diminishing return with each new generation (since the M1 leap).