You made a spreadsheet for multicore points per dollar on Apple products. That’s the most gloriously nerdy thing I’ve heard, and that’s coming from a guy who attended a Babylon 5 convention in the late ‘90s.
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16-Inch MacBook Pro Hands-On: Benchmark and Performance Tests
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You made a spreadsheet for multicore points per dollar on Apple products. That’s the most gloriously nerdy thing I’ve heard, and that’s coming from a guy who attended a Babylon 5 convention in the late ‘90s.
What laptops have a better than 720p webcam? Genuine question, as the webcam is not something I’ve ever cared about. Usually put a sticker over it.
Agree. I'm not ready to switch back to Apple from my Note 10, but I like the direction.
What about the results of "real world usage" for the 2019 15" MacBook Pro with the same processor?
I would know how the 2019 compares.
I would know how the 2019 compares.
As bad as that is, not only is it slower than the 2020 model as stated, its WAY slower than the 2022 model. And don't get me started on the 2025 model. Clearly Apple is just trying to rip us off.
Parallel port? Nah, what we really need is a built-in PhoneNet transceiver, with RJ11 ports on the side of the Mac, for connecting to a LocalTalk network. Imagine being able to do AppleTalk at a blistering 230 kbit/s.
I was looking forward to the Blackmagic benchmark details but I guess I was just click baited. lol.
Those "real world usage" results will only be valid when compared with a base. Where is the MBP 15 results?
Who cares about Face ID when your watch can unlock the MacBook Pro without even looking at it.
I ordered a maxed out (well, all but the SSD, 4TB there is still 3x more than I need) 16" when they launched and it arrived today, two days early. I was using a maxed out mid-2018 15" MBP and this thing is *noticeably* faster in everyday use so far. My big reason for the upgrade was my work, where I edit lots of high-resolution photos on a LG SuperFine 5K display (and the new Pro XDR soon!). Adobe Lightroom has been dogging since version 8.4 moved a lot of processing to the GPU (they say you can turn that off, but doing so has no effect on performance problems introduced with version 8.4). With the new 16" it's zipping along really fast. I also do a lot of image stacking using Helicon Focus and timing the same stacks of images, the new machine is easily twice as fast, and on some stacks it finishes the jobs in 1/4 the time of my previous machine.
I'm loving the extra screen real estate. It's not immediately obvious but after 4-5 hours on the new machine, going back to the old 15" it was immediately noticeable. I actually didn't have problems with the previous keyboard after the first version was updated, but again, after going back from using the 16" I am appreciating the reversion to a keyboard with greater "feel" and depth to the keystrokes.
If upgrading from a very powerful mid-2018 machine is this noticeable, some of you on the much older machines will see a huge performance difference. BTW, the extra size is barely noticeable vs. the 15" MBP.
I'm loving the extra screen real estate. It's not immediately obvious but after 4-5 hours on the new machine, going back to the old 15" it was immediately noticeable. I actually didn't have problems with the previous keyboard after the first version was updated, but again, after going back from using the 16" I am appreciating the reversion to a keyboard with greater "feel" and depth to the keystrokes.
If upgrading from a very powerful mid-2018 machine is this noticeable, some of you on the much older machines will see a huge performance difference. BTW, the extra size is barely noticeable vs. the 15" MBP.
Yeah when Kuo released his predictions I rolled my eyes and figured it was one of his many endless predictions that turn out to be nothing. I am pleasantly surprised right now. I have been for days. Maybe, just maybe the so-called SE2 is real, too. A brave new Apple is afoot!To me, this offering is the best laptop Apple has put out since my 2012 rMBP. Time to pass the old gal along to a friend and treat myself to a new compute companion.
I just found out from the latest episode of Merge Conflict #176 that the FAA has a size limit on batteries so Apple can't make them larger than 100Wh (or if they do, people can't fly with the laptop).
FAA Source:
Size limits: Lithium metal (non-rechargeable) batteries are limited to 2 grams of lithium per battery. Lithium ion (rechargeable) batteries are limited to a rating of 100 watt hours (Wh) per battery.
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I think what really happened is that the design team got sick of having to send in their MBPs for repair, and the coding team was already down their throats over code errors due to the stupid Touch Bar existence and/or placement and lack of escape key.
Which is why there's been so many high-profile software blunders at Apple in the last, say, 3 to 4 years.
While I completely agree 720p camera is ridiculous for a 2019's $2500 laptop (but hey, Apple being Apple), I don't see what FaceID or higher res camera have to do with "pro" or "not pro". Even further, what does "pro" mean at all nowadays? If that's a machine that allows you to work everywhere even a MBA is a Pro laptop depending on your demands. If it's a machine that it's powerful, then yeah MBPs are Pro's. My question is, why are still using this gimmicky word?
What move is that? The one where they fixed a lot things that were objectively worse under his management? I don't mean to be aggressive, I'm genuinely curious if there's another angle I'm missing because I'm excited about this laptop.
OH HELL YES!....Just checked and you are CORRECT! Thanks for the heads up good sir, picking this config up tomorrow. Just wish they had the silver version in stock as it seems the space grey config is dominant in all apple stores. Will be my first space grey, sure hope for that much coin, the finish holds up.
What high end Pro laptop with a similar thickness has a better camera?
(The iPhone is almost thrice as thick.)
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SuperDrive!
Not the DVD one. The original floppy one.
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We don’t know how long a mythical version of the A13 in a Mac would be able to sustain that performance. In an iPhone, it’s probably something like ten minutes. In a Mac, it needs to be hours.
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Finish holds pretty fine except for the trackpad on my MBP 15” 2017 - there are middle areas which are quite lighter compared to the darker gray as it was when I have purchased it 2 years back. Well, its not that visible unless positioned properly but still, the trackpads coating is not perfect.
My late 2016 TB model is space grey and it has held up fabulously. I rarely see the silver version of the latest MBPs. Space grey is not the shiny new color any more after 3 years but it must be outselling the silver like crazy.
Honestly, endless years of grey and silver are starting to get a little boring.
Apple can do better than that when it wants to
Hell, even that second one (dark matte grey on lighter metallic grey) would be nice for a change.
Apple can do better than that when it wants to
Hell, even that second one (dark matte grey on lighter metallic grey) would be nice for a change.
Just ordered 2.4Ghz 64GB RAM, 8GB Video Ram 1TB SSD (Silver as I really dislike the Gray). They say early December, so nice Christmas Present. Will give my report on what I think. Converted to Apple in 2010 and not looked back.
You forget the floppy drives! We need a 5 1/4 inch not that modern 3 1/2 inch stuff. Backups - tapes wins the day every time. Then the machine should be thick enough for a proper heat management.