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What happened to the 6 mini led products launching in 2020
And next year it will be another excuse,
Do investors really listen to Ming kuo or just
Just tech you tubers?

The whole pandemic pushed the release outside everyone's schedule. Especially to new technology like Mini-LED which requires longer lead time to reach market volume.
 
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The main reason I’d want a touch screen on a laptop is so that I don’t have to do the “mouse wiggle, then move, then click” action because I don’t know where the cursor is. Actually, even when I KNOW where the cursor is, the text field is RIGHT THERE! Using my iPad Pro has given me a STRONG urge to just just tap it real quick... and then reach for the trackpad LOL :)

I understand...but, unfortunately (for you), my preference would be for Apple to spend time refining macOS without going through the time to reengineer macOS for touch targets when they already have a touch-based OS and macOS needs more under the hood improvements (Finder, APFS/Filesystem, metadata and Spotlight indexing, Core MIDI and other lingering bugs that should have been fixed years ago, et al.).

So while I appreciate your argument, I would prefer Apple not spend any software engineering time on a touch screen Mac and touch-optimized macOS.

I, too, spend enough time on my iPad Pro that I often end up tapping the screen on my MacBook Pro just due to muscle memory. Yes, sometimes I wish something would actually happen. Then I make a mental adjustment and try not to do it again. My success rate is about 50/50. LOL!
 
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iMac won't get a redesign until it moves to ARM-based CPUs, same for the iMac Pro. I expect any mini-LED models to be ARM-based exclusives, Intel Macs won't ever get mini-LED.

That doesn't make much sense.

Mini-LED offers greater color accuracy and brightness. It's exactly what Pro users need.

Not to mention desktops would be last to transition to ARM.
 
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As some have already suggested it is unlikely we will see ARM MacBook Pros for at least a couple of years. Next year will be Mini LED displays. If ARM MacBook Pros were on the horizon I believe Ming Chi Kuo would have said that. I would like to see Wi-Fi 6 in the next MacBook Pro refresh though.
 
wonder if an iMac refresh will occur before WWDC in a month, as the refurb store has been out of iMac's for 2 weeks now and the custom order delivery window is very long even given the covid.
 
I was hoping for the mini led iPad Pro this year but figured it wouldnt happen since they already released the "Refreshed" iPad Pro in March, which was basically just an updated camera, not even sure why they released the update..would rather have had them just release the mini led ipads when they were ready
 
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Fingerprint scanner
+ No rounded screen corners
= Instant buy

I'm hoping the new screen technology in the upcoming iPad pro will make this a reality.
 
What happened to the 6 mini led products launching in 2020
And next year it will be another excuse,
Do investors really listen to Ming kuo or just
Just tech you tubers?
I think COVID-19 probably plays a major role in product delays, understandably. That has effects from consumer demand all the way down the supply chain with factory closures, etc. I think we got the 2020 iPad Pro, MacBook Air, and 13” MacBook Pro because they were very iterative upgrades. The Magic Keyboard was already in production long before COVID-19 hit and that was quite frankly the most exciting bit of the 2020 iPad Pro launch.
 
Does this mean the 14" mini led will also slide into 2nd half of 2021? Before it was 2021 in general. (So that's at least 12 months from now.)
 
I was hoping for the mini led iPad Pro this year but figured it wouldnt happen since they already released the "Refreshed" iPad Pro in March, which was basically just an updated camera, not even sure why they released the update..would rather have had them just release the mini led ipads when they were ready

Well, if the upcoming glasses with LiDar is to believe, it makes sense to have the tools in the developers hands as early as possible.
 
Well, if the upcoming glasses with LiDar is to believe, it makes sense to have the tools in the developers hands as early as possible.

Yeah that's true..but I want to upgrade my 2018 iPad Pro 11 inch, really would like the 12.9 inch one and mini led would be awesome if it came out this year instead of waiting til March 2021
 
That doesn't make much sense.

Mini-LED offers greater color accuracy and brightness. It's exactly what Pro users need.

Not to mention desktops would be last to transition to ARM.

Apple is going to want to entice Pro users over to Arm as quickly as they can as well. It makes zero sense engineering wise to rejigger things for mini-LED for a CPU architecture that you are leaving. I suspect that Apple is further along in CPU design for Pro machines than anyone suspects and that the transition is going to be faster than some want. That said, Apple wants some Arm-exclusive features to help really get people on board and along with new chassis’, Face ID and better webcams, I cannot think of a better enticement than new screen technology with better HDR color, brightness, energy efficiency, et al. Apple is looking at the future, and Intel isn’t it.
 
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Does this mean the 14" mini led will also slide into 2nd half of 2021? Before it was 2021 in general. (So that's at least 12 months from now.)

The whole schedule likely depends on mini LED yields. The 16-inch starts at $2,400 so it can abosrb higher costs. We probably won't know about the 14-inch dates until end of 2020.
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Apple is going to want to entice Pro users over to Arm as quickly as they can as well. It makes zero sense engineering wise to rejigger things for mini-LED for a CPU architecture that you are leaving. I suspect that Apple is further along in CPU design for Pro machines than anyone suspects and that the transition is going to be faster than some want. That said, Apple wants some Arm-exclusive features to help really get people on board and along with new chassis’, Face ID and better webcams, I cannot think of a better enticement than new screen technology with better HDR color, brightness, energy efficiency, et al. Apple is looking at the future, and Intel isn’t it.

Mini LED is a display technology, not something that affects the CPU.

For a consumer, it may seem romantic to have a new chassis, CPU, OS, and display tech all at once. But from an engineering perspective, it makes zero sense to put all risk in one basket. It's similar to the iPad Pro with ToF sensor. The new hardware serves as a dry-run for the iPhone.
 
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There’s nothing sad about it.

The 16” MacBook Pro is a new model introduced in Fall of 2019. I would not expect a redesign of the chassis until 2023 as Apple has pretty much stuck to a 4 year cycle for the industrial design of their portables.
I hope that this 4-year cycle won't be valid for the 16-inch MacBook Pro after the releases of (almost) borderless premium laptops. The top bezel of 16" MBP still looks too thick for my eyes; does not fit for the best designed machine in the market.
 
Well, seems like this 16" MacBook Pro with Mini LED display tech will be my next Mac purchase. By then we should have some new AMD GPUs as well and hopefully Intel will have their butt in gear on some better CPUs unless Apple switches to ARM across the board. Honestly I'd just be happy with AMD CPUs and Nvidia GPUs. Not sure why Apple doesn't put the best into their high-end, expensive "Pro" products. It's not like it's a big deal since all the tech is interchangeable. They need to get over whatever holdups they have. I'll get it spec'd with 64GB of RAM and 4TB SSD so it should last me a good 6-7 years. Hoping for a 12-core CPU by then but a faster 8-core would be fine.
 
Well, seems like this 16" MacBook Pro with Mini LED display tech will be my next Mac purchase. By then we should have some new AMD GPUs as well and hopefully Intel will have their butt in gear on some better CPUs unless Apple switches to ARM across the board. Honestly I'd just be happy with AMD CPUs and Nvidia GPUs. Not sure why Apple doesn't put the best into their high-end, expensive "Pro" products. It's not like it's a big deal since all the tech is interchangeable. They need to get over whatever holdups they have. I'll get it spec'd with 64GB of RAM and 4TB SSD so it should last me a good 6-7 years. Hoping for a 12-core CPU by then but a faster 8-core would be fine.

If it’s coming out next year, it wil most likely have Intel Tigerlake. I do hope they add a NVIDIA GPU, but I doubt it will happen. You won’t get a 12 core mobile part from anyone next year, or I expect in 2022, we can’t even cool an 8 core CPU correctly in the MacBook format.
 
At this point I only look at margins (not the bezels, mind you)

In this current environment Apple will squeeze every penny out of the supply chain on material cost to compensate for any hike in price for production, distribution, and so forth.

I expect more share buybacks and lower quality standards for the next upcoming products.
In addition, one should look at currency exchange rates, trade wars and the election.

I know for most of the demographic here, you don't care.
I do, and therefore expect a big decline in quality, enormous price hikes and problems in quality control.
 
i thought mini led was not ready for market release?
Or are we going to be the beta testers with pink and green spots?
 
So while I appreciate your argument, I would prefer Apple not spend any software engineering time on a touch screen Mac and touch-optimized macOS.
Oh, no, it wasn’t really an argument, I agree with you that they shouldn’t spend any time on it. :) It’s just that I do find myself touching the screen wishing something would happen LOL! But, I’m aware enough to know that I wouldn’t want any effort spent trying to make a MacBook screen multi-touch.
 
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