milo said:Sounds like one of the intel boxes would be perfect for them. Why so insistent on getting them to buy the hardware that's on its way out?
Meemoo said:I'm guessing Leopard will be the first OS that won't support the G3...
Krevnik said:Still on the US store for me. Maybe I am special?![]()
milo said:Apple has already announced that 10.5 will ship for both processors. Who knows what will happen with 10.6.
milo said:Apple has already announced that 10.5 will ship for both processors. Who knows what will happen with 10.6.
It certainly was, but more of those who up to a year ago were still using classic are now switching. Tech transitions certainly seem to be where Apple excel though.BornAgainMac said:This transition seems really smooth and Apple seems to have a lot of confidence with moving to Intel. Apple seems to have a good track record with transitions compared to any other tech company. I think the transition from OS 9 to OSX was much more difficult.
Other than the whole 13" discussion, I would tend to agree. With Adobe's announcement not to offer Universal binaries for their products until their natural development cycle, PPC G5 towers seem to be essential to at least the end of 2006.nagromme said:Since Rosetta performs OK compared to G4s, and often faster--and since Photoshop pros who demand sheer raw speed will often choose a tower--I think Apple may not keep the G4 PowerBooks lingering for TOO long. (But I think they'll keep the G5 towers around even after Conroe.)
Low-end Intel Macs need Core Solo and might wait a bit, but new sizes of MacBook Pro could come any time. I really expect all G4 models to have replacements by the end of March.
I predict a 13" MacBook "something" (or "nothing?") to replace the iBook, and if it has a high enough version, then maybe no 12-13" MacBook Pro. I REALLY hope there's SOME kind of dual-core small laptop coming, whatever the name. And I expect the iBook replacement to use Core Solo. On the high-end, a 20" screen wouldn't surprise me too much... dual-duals would, but you never know (there would be room it seems--just disable one chip while on battery).
My guess is they will ditch support for G3 machines. They barely hung on with Tiger, so Leopard may well be the G4/G5/Intel OS and 10.6 will be the same, (I can't see them ditching PPC support until 10.7-10.9, maybe leaving OS 11?? as the first Intel only OS).jouster said:For both? They have specifically announced G3 support? Or just PPC support?
It's a while now since they made any G3 products.
Low-end Intel Macs don't need a Core Solo, it's an overpriced underpowered chip. Apple needs to go with the Core Duo in all consumer machines, or something less expensive (and cut the prices). Even the Core Duo under Rosetta is only comparable to the G4s, not appreciably faster. Until all major apps are Universal Binaries, Apple can ill afford to release machines that are noticeably slower than their predecessors for non-UB apps, unless the machines have much lower prices than the current models.nagromme said:Since Rosetta performs OK compared to G4s, and often faster--and since Photoshop pros who demand sheer raw speed will often choose a tower--I think Apple may not keep the G4 PowerBooks lingering for TOO long. (But I think they'll keep the G5 towers around even after Conroe.)
Low-end Intel Macs need Core Solo and might wait a bit, but new sizes of MacBook Pro could come any time. I really expect all G4 models to have replacements by the end of March.
I predict a 13" MacBook "something" (or "nothing?") to replace the iBook, and if it has a high enough version, then maybe no 12-13" MacBook Pro. I REALLY hope there's SOME kind of dual-core small laptop coming, whatever the name. And I expect the iBook replacement to use Core Solo. On the high-end, a 20" screen wouldn't surprise me too much... dual-duals would, but you never know (there would be room it seems--just disable one chip while on battery).
We'll only see the 20" iMac G5 as long as there are still parts in the supply line; once the G5s and mobos Apple has purchased are gone, it's gone like the 17".cnakeitaro said:I don't think we will see the iMac G5 line completely disappear til we see every major app go native.
After the legal problems Apple had with Tiger and G3 machines, a G4, G5 or Intel processor will definitely be part of the hardware requirements for 10.5.steve hill4 said:My guess is they will ditch support for G3 machines. They barely hung on with Tiger, so Leopard may well be the G4/G5/Intel OS and 10.6 will be the same, (I can't see them ditching PPC support until 10.7-10.9, maybe leaving OS 11?? as the first Intel only OS).
Yeah I am kind of sad too.iGary said:I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.![]()
Porchland said:iMacs dwindling...
PowerBooks dwindling...
Shuffles dwindling...
Are we getting a refresh on Tuesday?
I am resisting calling you a bad name.ssteve said:Probably not next Tuesday. On a different note, I heard Adobe will have universal binaries a week from Tuesday.
Just kidding!
I think by the end of the summer we'll have Intel PowerMacs announced. Definitely by the end of 2006, because Apple already set that as the new target for the conversion to be complete.PMacG5Dual2.7 said:Its a year and a half away till we see a PowerMac with an Intel chip in it (at the very least).
Apple has quite a history of suddenly making large, incompatible changes. The tendency is to kill one product to replace it with something different - and any overlap of the two models is simply "while supplies last".PMacG5Dual2.7 said:Apple will support the G5 for sure for quite awhile.
You wish. As soon as Conroe hits... bye bye G5!PMacG5Dual2.7 said:Its a year and a half away till we see a PowerMac with an Intel chip in it (at the very least). Apple will support the G5 for sure for quite awhile.
PMacG5Dual2.7 said:Its a year and a half away till we see a PowerMac with an Intel chip in it (at the very least).
I'll have some of that too, especially since Apple have already stated all Macs will be shipping with Intel processors by the end of the calendar year.~Shard~ said:Are you a betting man? I am. I'll bet money you're wrong. The Intel PowerMacs will sport Conroe processors and will be out late 2006 or early 2007 at the absolute latest. No way they will be at least a year and a half away.
Let me know if you want to put some money where your mouth is and we'll make it interesting.![]()
steve_hill4 said:I'll have some of that too, especially since Apple have already stated all Macs will be shipping with Intel processors by the end of the calendar year.![]()
As others have said, Apple has made it clear that the transition of its hardware to Intel chips will be complete by the end of 2006.PMacG5Dual2.7 said:Its a year and a half away till we see a PowerMac with an Intel chip in it (at the very least).
Yes, Apple still supports the G4 (and, in many cases, the G3), so it will continue to "support" the G5 for years, it just won't "sport" the G5.PMacG5Dual2.7 said:Apple will support the G5 for sure for quite awhile.
On what authority do make those statements? Are you making the decisions for Apple?PMacG5Dual2.7 said:Its a year and a half away till we see a PowerMac with an Intel chip in it (at the very least). Apple will support the G5 for sure for quite awhile.