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I think they should have 2 FireWire 800 ports but have them on a split bus so each port has it's own bus. A fw400 port would be welcomed too and could share the bus with one of the 800 ports.
 
Yes, eventually :)

I was very impressed with the MBP, overall the build quality is impressive, the keyboard, and it just feels like a very sturdy product. I didn't really mind the glossy screen after a bit. The trackpad will take some getting used to, I am just so used to a mouse.

The only thing holding me back is that 1440 by 900 just seems not quite enough screen real estate, particularly after also playing around on the 17".

Having only a lowrez 1440 by 900 option seems like a joke in this price class.
 
what he said

Yes, eventually :)

The only thing holding me back is that 1440 by 900 just seems not quite enough screen real estate, particularly after also playing around on the 17".

Exact same for me. I'm still considering it too, but in my heart I know 1440x900 aint enough. Especially if a shiny new 17 comes out within 3 months. Wish Gruber would rumour a date for this... :eek:
 
Will someone please tell me what I can and absolutely can't do without the FW on the new Macbooks.
 
Having only a lowrez 1440 by 900 option seems like a joke in this price class.
13" MacBook: 1440x900 standard
15" MacBook Pro: 1680x1050 standard
17" MacBook Pro: 1920x1200 standard

That is how it is supposed to be.
 
I was worrying about the screen resolution also so I looked around. It seems all higher end 15.4" notebooks are 1440x900 standard.
 
13" MacBook: 1440x900 standard
15" MacBook Pro: 1680x1050 standard
17" MacBook Pro: 1920x1200 standard

That is how it is supposed to be.

Exactly. Apple was class leading a few years ago but currently they cannot compete in the display area.
 
And so the MWSF 09 rumor train has departed... ;)

So true :D

I'm in the market for a new 17" MBP but I can still squeeze out another 6 months out of my current MBP after upgrading the HDD to 320GB.

I'll gladly wait until mid next year for revision B or C of the 17" MBP.
 
I was worrying about the screen resolution also so I looked around. It seems all higher end 15.4" notebooks are 1440x900 standard.

Where are you looking? Dell offers 1680x1050 and 1920x1200 RGB LED displays in their business lines.
 
What I don't like about the new books is they've reduced the amount of components but they haven't lowered the price...
 
The next opportunity for Apple to release new machines falls in January 2009 at Macworld San Francisco.

Wrong. The next opportunity to release a new machine is tomorrow. Apple can release new machines whenever they are darn well ready. If new 17" macbooks were to be ready in the middle of November, they would release them rather than wait until January. Of course, if they aren't ready until Dec 31, then they should wait (to get the best bang for their advertising buck).

This whole "Apple has to wait several months until their next scheduled event" thing is preposterous. I thought we were well past all that.
 
I think I share the sentiments of others here.

It might be wishful thinking, but a Matte option for the 17" redesign sounds possible. The 17" higher end MBP are truly for the pros and the majority of that group seem to want Matte screens. Plus, you make the Matte option for the 17" inch only and you force people to purchase those notebooks since they are basically adding more exclusivity with the 17". It feels like that's what they're doing.

Then if they do that, everyone will say how Apple listens to their customers and they are so great when really they were planning on doing the 17" Matte screen all along.
 
Will someone please tell me what I can and absolutely can't do without the FW on the new Macbooks.

FW400 is faster than USB2, FW800 is way faster for use with hard drives. Digital Video cameras, high end DSLR cameras, a variety of audio equipment come with FW ports.

Video cameras come with just one port so no daisy chaining is possible. I've also had experiences where daisy chaining didn't work.

USB is and overgrown spec for connecting mice and keyboards. FW is a much more sophisticated specification that includes the ability to guarantee a certain amount of bandwidth regardless of what else is happening on the bus. Useful for audio.

FW supplies enough power for small devices like hard drives. USB requires external power.
 
I think the 17" update will come the week before Macworld - Tuesday, December 30th, if not earlier. Its something that is widely expected and I don't think Steve will waste precious Keynote minutes on a non-surprise, remember the Mac Pros updates this January? :D

Now, how about we talk about updating the Cinema Displays - bringing everything up to the standard of the new 24"; with the possibility of something new - like an ACD / Apple TV mutant, perhaps? :rolleyes:
 
Reminds me of the days when Apple went Aluminum with the 13" and 17 inch Powerbooks and the 15" Titanium Powerbook was at least 6 months behind the refresh.
 
Do 8-bit laptop screens exist?



I think it has more to do with the current economy. It is a depression after all.

No, but at least TN displays offered by Dell and Sony have a better RGB LED back lighting with a 100% color gamut. Apple only offers white LED back lighting.
 
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