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19" MacBook Pro
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I think one gets used to off center keyboards very quickly. I would love such a change on the 15" too. Those speakers aren't worth loosing that. Their quality maybe slightly better than 13" speakers but so slightly it isn't worth it. At home I attach headphones or speakers anyway on the road the quality doesn't matter or I use headphones again. In any case the sound travels up more than forward and sounds worse than many PC notebooks when you actually want to watch something in front of it with a couple friends.
19" is way too big for laptop mobility, and Apple would not waste it's money on 19" MBP production.
People are buying the 17", and unless Apple puts hardware inside that warrants such a large chassis the 19" won't sell.
Good God, man, my eyes have trouble encapsulating all that beauty on a 17" laptop from that close!
If you're using your 17" the same distance away one would use a desktop, that might explain the problems. Just bring your Macbook closer to you, use it like a laptop should be used, because Apple is famous for having lightweight computers and the 17" still is effin' huge!
The short answer to your question is that laptops like those won't exist for a couple of years.
The long answer to your question is HELL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
If you're using your 17" the same distance away one would use a desktop, that might explain the problems. Just bring your Macbook closer to you, use it like a laptop should be used, because Apple is famous for having lightweight computers and the 17" still is effin' huge!
The short answer to your question is that laptops like those won't exist for a couple of years.
The long answer to your question is HELL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
I'd get a 19". I use my MBP as my main computer (don't own a desktop). It's powerful, nice big screen, and still portable. Sure, a 19" wouldn't be as portable as a smaller laptop, but it would still be portable. Just look at the popularity of 18+ inch PC laptops these days ... I'd imagine these big-screen laptops are the fastest-growing segment after the 13" size.
I agree that it's unlikely that Apple would do this, but I'd buy it over the 17" if they did.
The 27" iMac is cool.
Well, it's neat - the ones I used at college generate enough heat to bake a Cornish hen to tender delicious perfection within 30 minutes, if you let it sit on top... but it's compact and the screen quality really can't be beat for the price...
But I wouldn't use a 19" portable. That would be horrendous to lug around, and I recall the day when 'portable' computers were 19" diagonal... they were also powered by lead-acid batteries, 5" tall, and 18" wide and ran a 80286 processor...
They try to differentiate things between their desktop and laptop lines, and the imacs require heat dissipation. The 24" panels would probably be too small to accommodate the cooling needs of the current cpu generation without going much much thicker to allow for larger fans and some additional spacing from the lcd panel. When you go past 24" at 1900x1200, the 25.5" 16:10 panels are up next (often called 26"). They were basically displaced by the current 27s. Apple isn't going to order a heavily customized part on this either just to go a bit smaller. Personally I wish the case and heat sensors were designed in a way that you could easily replace the hard drive (with one off the shelf).
Imac + carrying case dude.
I know it's funny, but I'd like to explain computers like this. On the Windows end, they have some computers that are really designed more as portable desktops than laptops. It's a pretty small market, but it often involves engineers who have to work in the field. Even then most of them are 15-17".
The displays used to age really poorly. It would be nice to see them address that in one of these generations (assuming they haven't already). I'm kind of wondering how much the gpu contributes to the heat factor as well. It's a mobile gpu, but it's made from underclocked desktop parts, and it's one of the hottest mobile gpus of them all.
The difference would be in the engineering.
If APPLE made a laptop as big as other manufacturers build their 17" laptops, it would have a 20" screen.
Anyway, the 17" has a resolution of 1920x1200 already. What would a 19" laptop have to warrant its existance ? If it has the same 1920x1200, you've gained no real estate and actually lost resolution as the PPI is now lower.
If a 19" laptop brings 2560x1600 resolution to a laptop, you could sign me in. Otherwise, what's the point of a 19" laptop ?
People are confused when it comes to screen sizes. Inches do not dictate real-estate.
I went from a 17" laptop to a 15" macbook because the 17" was more awkward than anything. I don't really get why anyone would want 19" when you could just use a desktop or an external display and it wouldn't cost you any portability.
I would not mind a 19" MBP with 2560x1600 resolution, 4 RAM slots, and maybe even dual drive slots for SSD+HDD, and a radeon 7970m graphics card? Can someone say iMac 27" to go? Perhaps a 110W power adapter would be needed
but seriously, I doubt a 19" MBP would ever exist, probably there's one in the labs. If you look at the 17, it's basically a bigger screened version of the high end 15 MBP. I wish Apple would do something to differentiate the 17, maybe ax the optical drive and add in 2 more ram slots?
but seriously, I doubt a 19" MBP would ever exist, probably there's one in the labs. If you look at the 17, it's basically a bigger screened version of the high end 15 MBP. I wish Apple would do something to differentiate the 17, maybe ax the optical drive and add in 2 more ram slots?
If anything I want a larger display with 2560x1440! Definatly not on a laptop though...hell I'm happy with my 13" MBP...Only wish I have is higher resolution for video editing and multitasking...
I actually know a few people with them that do architecture and cad work, they really loved them till they finally failed and couldn't find another in good shape. They used them as their workstations that they could take any place.
It's more than likely going to get even smaller rather than bigger (as with everything.) It will probably go to "Portable external screening" so to speak. A mirage or transfer imaging. Kinda like a projector i imagine.?? No matter what, I hope it doesn't go downhill on quality. As you always hear "Back in the day, it was built to last". Lower maintenance, Compatibility and Performance will be the issue in question, i think.
In the PC arena, there have been quite a few attempts to market 18"+ laptops and they never sold well. It seems like the market has defined 17" as the maximum in terms of laptops, and I quite understand it: anything beyond 18" is too heavy and bulky to be mobile... so if it's not meant to be mobile at all, why not get an iMac?
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Even the 18" laptops that Sony and others make are still on a chassis the same size as a 17". It's more of a shrinking-the-bezel kind of situation with those. The bezel on the 17" is another reason why I'd choose it over the 15" or 13" any day.
Don't forget, those LCD panels need heat dissipation as well. If you can find old images from the 20" and 19" laptops of yore, then you'll see how thick their LCD panels and hinges were. They had to allow for all that LCD goodness to stay cool, and it took up a lot of space and added a lot of weight to do so.
Agreed, again, the biggest issue with the 19"+ side of laptops was that they didn't offer ANYTHING over the 17" models in terms of hardware save for a large screen. That issue always came up first, then the issue of price came.
If it was a 19" display at 2560x1600 on a chassis only a few bits larger than a 17" with dual HDD+ optical, dual FW800, dual TBolt, Express Card 34, SDXC, and four USB 3.0 then maybe I'd drop $2999 (starting price) for that.
The real market is for those looking for a desktop replacement. In my golden days, when I made good money freelancing on and offsite I'd take the 17" MBP with me and it needed desktop power. I was always on the move and wouldn't dream of carrying anything heavier than my HDDs with me. I'd at times have to bring a 23" ACD and it was a bit of a pain.
If there was a 19" MBP that looked good, gave me more hardware options and I/O, and didn't cost a fortune then I'd get one. It was a small market however. The Dell M6600 is now IMHO the king of mobile workstations. The current 17" MBP is nothing more than a 15" with a bigger screen and an Express Card slot. Its fantastic with that at times, but I wouldn't mind having the option for four DIMM slots, 3x HDDs and too many I/O ports to even fathom.