Yes, well this is 2013, not 2020.
If adding more ram allows for more apps to run at once and other benefits from the additional memory space, why wouldn't they?
I can guess why...
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Yes, well this is 2013, not 2020.
If adding more ram allows for more apps to run at once and other benefits from the additional memory space, why wouldn't they?
I can guess why...
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They might not release it, but it's very likely that they will announce it latest by WWDC 2014. It's going to an entirely different product. A game changer, last one being the original iPad in 2010.
Most likely not. New iPads are released in Fall. They've moved it a year ago and I really don't see a reason for them to go back to spring release. iWatch or some sort of TV has a bigger chance of being released in spring than iPad Pro/Maxi/whatever lol.
And what's with quad core crap again? A7 is already faster than any other mobile soc.
Will quad core come to iDevices? It's probably the matter of time, but as seen with all the Android devices, quad core doesn't equal better performance, smoother experience, better responsiveness etc. So if Apple manages to increase performance every year without going quad core (and continues to offer the fastest and smoothest devices) I'm perfectly fine with it.
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You can forever go one believing that Quad Core is not coming to iDevices, but its going to happen sooner than later now that the 64 bit is here. Remember the Computer 64 bit, Quad Core timeline?
So you think Apple is going to release/announce their biggest launch since first iPad on an event with 12 over launches, and not forgetting the iWatch?
You sir are uninformed in that case.
No they did not, Apple doesn't do cost cutting, at least they are not that cheap, they did so because they wanted to improve battery life, so they could put in a smaller battery and reduce the weight and thickness.
First and Second Maybe, but what kind of a Pro uses the inbuilt speakers to double the iPad as a boom box? And flash, on a tablet? Phones have a flash because they are portable pocket devices, so you can take a quick click when you don't have a camera, and even in the dark.
LOL!
They did it to have a compelling offering for the next revision. They do this to upswell on the Mac side all the time. 64 taking up more memory means LESS usable memory now than with the iPad 4. That's a fact.
Really?!
What do you think uses more battery power? Keeping the web page in memory or turning on wifi radio, loading up the web page again, And CPU rendering the page again... The power difference between 1gb or 2gb of lpddr3 is infitessimal.
People ranting about 1 GB of ram don't know what they are talking about. Run a memory profiler and see average utilization. It's not needed on iOS 7. This is not a desktop OS and Apples OS and hardware are much more integrated than say Android tablets which are much less efficient and also have to feed memory to a JVM all the time.
Start with the concept that iOS 7 does not use swap and go from there to understand how it behaves differently from a desktop os.
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Oh the conspiracy theory that Apple holds back features and functionality to get you to upgrade. it was only a matter of time before someone trolled this silliness.
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Your premise is wrong. Read up on how iOS uses memory.
Start with the concept that iOS 7 does not use swap and go from there to understand how it behaves differently from a desktop os.
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Oh the conspiracy theory that Apple holds back features and functionality to get you to upgrade. it was only a matter of time before someone trolled this silliness.
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Your premise is wrong. Read up on how iOS uses memory.
Hmmm....
That's what I said. There will most likely be a quad core processor in an iOS device (whether it's in A8, A9, A10...no one but Apple knows). The point is, dual core A7 is faster than any quad or octa core mobile device out there.
safari crashed on my iPad air a good 3 times since i just bought it yesterday. with just 2 tabs open XDA.com and macrumors.com switching between either makes the tabs refresh
with a lot of apps open multi tasking UI is laggy.
needs more ram GG
with a lot of apps open multi tasking UI is laggy.
needs more ram GG
Love the smug. All you have to do to understand where business takes over tech at apple, is to look at the. Mac mini. Purposely gimped graphics throughout its history. When it did have a graphics card, Apple gave it 1/2 the VRAM to make it a much less appealing product compared to the iMac or MBP. The second apple could get rid of the dPGU, they removed it and made sure to not make it a BTO option. Want a dPGU in a portable now? That will be $400 more than last year.
It really isn't enough using the current version of ios7. Of course if this was Microsoft people would be up in arms but because its Apple we will 1) give them the benefit of the doubt 2) wait for them to fix ios7 and 3) allow them to again put their gross margins and shareholders above their end users.
It always amazes me how people seem to give Apple a pass. I'm
not sure why Apple is so loved but I guess that's just the way things are.
It always amazes me how people seem to give Apple a pass. I'm
not sure why Apple is so loved but I guess that's just the way things are.
There are people who are fans of every tech company, who will fight tooth and nail to defend every move that the company makes, no matter how idiotic or anti-consumer the move is.
Going to 64bit processing and not increasing the RAM is one clear example.
I ran a system profiler on my iPad 3 with iOS7 (also 1GB of RAM) and it uses nearly 75% at idle. That's fine, until Apple releases iOS 8 and it uses 90% at idle.
The thing needs 2GB of RAM. How much extra would that have cost?
Although I was disappointed by the lack of a RAM upgrade, I was equally delighted to know that iPad Pro could be a reality in the future. And I'm not a believer of the theory that says that apple has been doing planned obsolescence. If they were, why would they let people install iOS7 on a 3 year old iPhone 4?
Yes they are faster for now. But Desktop processors have proved a decade ago that you can only squeeze out so much juice out of a Dual core. So it's coming, and most probably with the iPad Pro.
It will have a bigger battery, a better display, double the RAM, and as a result of all that, it would be thicker and heavier.
I have been thinking about this. 64bit increases an apps RAM footprint by 30%. So the Air really has 30% less ram than before. I found the Air to be a bit of a let down so I have been think of alternatives.
My choice is the following(might not be the most obvious)
A Retina MacBook Pro with 8Gb of RAM, 2.X Ghz i5, 256Gb of SSD storage with Intel Iris graphics.
At £1249, it is a tad more expensive than a 128Fb iPad Air but I feel I will get more out of it. Gaming (GTA San Andreas and Borderlands 2...) plus video editing and web browsing.
If you compair an iPad to a MacBook, an iPad feels weak in comparison.
iPad Air 128Gb : £639
MacBook Air 11" 128Gb :£849
So for that extra £110, you get a bigger screen(lower PPI though), an i5processor, proper OS, keyboard (an iPad keyboard is £69 to £99), an amazing touchpad, proper apps,
iLife and iWork is better on Mac...
So I am going for the Retina MacBook Pro with 8Gb of RAM and 256Gb of SSD storage.
How do you calculate the 30% increase?
There are also different use cases for different devices. I have a 27" iMac, Macbook Pro, iPad & iPhone. Each is good at its own thing. I certainly won't be lying in my bed at night reading from my iMac or Macbook Pro
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No one would refuse 2 GB of RAM, and the fact Apple put the usual 1 GB isn't a justification of anything.
I have been thinking about this. 64bit increases an apps RAM footprint by 30%. So the Air really has 30% less ram than before. I found the Air to be a bit of a let down so I have been think of alternatives.
My choice is the following(might not be the most obvious
A Retina MacBook Pro with 8Gb of RAM, 2.X Ghz i5, 256Gb of SSD storage with Intel Iris graphics.
At £1249, it is a tad more expensive than a 128Fb iPad Air but I feel I will get more out of it. Gaming (GTA San Andreas and Borderlands 2...) plus video editing and web browsing.
If you compair an iPad to a MacBook, an iPad feels weak in comparison.
iPad Air 128Gb : £639
MacBook Air 11" 128Gb :£849
So for that extra £110, you get a bigger screen(lower PPI though), an i5processor, proper OS, keyboard (an iPad keyboard is £69 to £99), an amazing touchpad, proper apps,
iLife and iWork is better on Mac...
So I am going for the Retina MacBook Pro with 8Gb of RAM and 256Gb of SSD storage.
Absolutely, I think for right now it is better to get a refurbished ipad 4 for just 379 dollars.
Let's look at the pros and cons of that decision
Cons - You will miss -
1. 1 Full year of warranty.
2. Better resale value.
3. A7 64 bit processor, that's fastest in the market right now by a fair margin.
4. A new lighter thinner form factor.
5. M7 processor.
6. Shiny new device.
7. Better battery life.
8. Better iOS7 compatibility, and future proofing for iOS 8 and maybe 9.
Pros - You will gain -
1. False sense of satisfaction.
Umm, what exactly do you guys do with your ipads that you have all these apps and tabs needing to be there instantly at once.
I surf the web and do whatever and go back to some other app (whether a game or kindle app or New York Times app). Don't see the issue.
I'm not hopping back and forth between 5 different open tabs on safari (don't really see the need). I go to a site and look at it, then go to another site. What exactly are you guys doing? I dont' understand the use case scenario that requires all these open apps and 2 GBs of ram?
I surf the web and do whatever and go back to some other app (whether a game or kindle app or New York Times app). Don't see the issue.
I'm not hopping back and forth between 5 different open tabs on safari (don't really see the need). I go to a site and look at it, then go to another site. What exactly are you guys doing? I dont' understand the use case scenario that requires all these open apps and 2 GBs of ram?
1. Apple Certified refurbished iPads get the same 1-yr warranty as brand new and are even eligible for AppleCare+.
2. True, you can sell the iPad Air for more than the iPad 4 next year but if you take into account that you're paying less for the iPad 4 now, it's probably a break even proposition.
3. Agree.
4. Agree.
5. Agree.
6. The latest and greatest from Apple, yes. The refurb iPad does get a new shell, though, so it's not like it'll be all scruffed up.
7. Remains to be seen. The battery capacity dropped from 43 Wh on the iPad 4 to 32 Wh on the iPad Air. My guess, battery life will be around the same on both.
8. I'll give you better performance in iOS 7. However, future proofing when it comes to tech is a useless endeavor. Best way to future-proof is to save enough money to buy the new model. Curious though, are there any iOS 7 features that the iPad Air has but the iPad 4 doesn't?
As for the Pros, how about an extra $120-200 in the bank plus cheaper accessories?
Less RAM. The iPad 4 has more RAM than the iPad 4. This is because of the DDR2 RAM in the 4 has around 1015Mb where as the iPad Air has 990 with its DDR3 RAM. And with the 20-30% increase in RAM usage through the use of 64bit, it is a lot less. The A7 in the Air wouldn't allow it to last a long time due to the RAM catching up on it before hand (the RAM usage on the Air with 1 site in Safairi open (apple.com) uses 920Mb of RAM. There is only 70Mb left then. The RAM will limit the Air before the A7 can last. I'm waiting for an iPad Pro/iPad Air with 2Gb of RAM.
