I'm wondering if it will still support local/LAN only device sync, b/c I refuse to sync via iCloud or anything that syncs to the web. I feel like that's a feature that's going away since it's now a crappy electron app. I'll limp along with v7 as long as I can and hope no OS update breaks it until I can use Apple Keychains (tho TBH Apple keychain is not really a great 1P replacement, for organizing, having instant access to things outside of passwords etc).
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Been using the early access + beta builds for 1password for months. Super stable and good improvements.
Wouldn't touch keychain with a barge pole - unlike 1Password, it's not 100% cross platform / multi browser support, and doesn't contain all the functionality that 1Password provides. Well worth the subscription price.
Wouldn't touch keychain with a barge pole - unlike 1Password, it's not 100% cross platform / multi browser support, and doesn't contain all the functionality that 1Password provides. Well worth the subscription price.
Perhaps, but is that worse, and less secure than what people normally do, like:
- reuse passwords across sites? (which in itself ends up essentially recreating the "one password" problem)
- save a file with all their passwords in it?
- write their passwords down physically?
Now, if I could remember 3,000 unique logins, then there wouldn't be a problem...but I can't. So, on balance, I find it less likely that someone would breach and/or brute force my master password from a company who's whole business is password protection.
In my own calculus, I find it that more secure than it would be for me to keep a limited number of password variations like "Upperlowercase1!" "upperlowercase1" and "upper.lowercasE", and potentially use one of those at a company who stupidly stores them in plain text instead of a hash and is then breached.
Is that 100% fool-proof? Of course not, nothing is 100% secure, every decision is a tradeoff. I'm simply betting that the risk of using different passwords everywhere provides more security than the alternative, because protecting that information is more central to the password companies core business than some random Shopify store or a Home Depot or whatever.
Well, there's also the existence of a user interface worth the name. Even if it is Electron-based, at least it exists. And you can use it outside of Safari too.
Probably getting it, as my previous, Enpass, *still* doesn't have apple silicon compatibility after all this time, and Apple's keychain is just a PITA. Far, far too restricted in scope.
I'm on 10.14 so my Mac has something called Keychain Manager. If I want to find a particular password, like the one for my Apple ID, I have a really hard time figuring out with entry I should be viewing.
I am assuming iCloud Keychain is the modern iteration of Keychain Manager? Are you able, on your Mac, to quickly isolate your Apple ID and then password for it?
Also, I've made peace with subscriptions now. The economics of the industry just means it's clearly the best way to keep developers, well, *developing* their product. (case in point: Enpass, one-off payment, still no apple silicon version.)
No, they are moving to Electron.
The subscription price of Keychain is $0. In most cases it’s faster than 1P and something that just exists in the background.
Free isn't always better.
For my needs, Keychain doesn't provide the functionality I need, so using Keychain is a complete waste of time.
If Keychain works for you, then great, use it.
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Yeah, I hope future versions of macOS gives the password features a better interface. They should just break it out into its own app for macOS/iOS.
But one thing: you can actually access it outside of Safari. macOS 12 introduced the Passwords pane in System Preferences. But still, I don't think other browsers can access saved passwords...
I doubt most people could notice the difference between an Electron based app and a native Swift App....
Using something like Electron makes sense - largely one code base for all platforms. No need to re-write the application for each platform, in different languages, so development costs are reduced.
Is there any better way of using Keychain on Windows?
In general I like Keychain, but it just completely sucks on Windows.
Like, is there a way to Sync Google Passwords to Keychain and vice-versa?
In general I like Keychain, but it just completely sucks on Windows.
Like, is there a way to Sync Google Passwords to Keychain and vice-versa?
I love 1Password, it is an essential app for me. I can access all my passwords on any device that supports it with almost no config.
The whole Electron v native discussion is so worn out. Some Electron apps are good, while most are terrible. If you're like VS Code or 1Password, you barely notice a difference (at least on M1). If it's Teams, that is junk. YMMV.
The whole Electron v native discussion is so worn out. Some Electron apps are good, while most are terrible. If you're like VS Code or 1Password, you barely notice a difference (at least on M1). If it's Teams, that is junk. YMMV.
I don’t think they will have any interest in an Electron app.
I don't want Apple buying 1P. Often times Apple dumbs down the company's features (iCloud Keychain is a perfect example of that) and then locks it to their ecosystem. If I want passwords on Android, I'm SOL.
Cool, now make an importer so we don't have to use a .csv file and try and figure it out. Help us lazy folks who don't have time to retype every single password out. [Hint: Reference Dashlane.]
to keep in mind: the backbone of the new version is written in rust, and it's only the UI that is Electron. I am too always skeptical regarding the latter, but I have been using v8 beta for a while now and have absolutely zero complaints when using it. Also it's not like 1Password is layered with tons and tons of functionality and/or animations which might slow things down, really only the essentials, and it's very quick with that feature set. I use 2 electron-based apps which are VSCode and now 1P, and I am happy with both. Others I have sorted out because they lack responsiveness (e.g. various multi messengers).
Apple doesn't need to acquire Agilebits to make their password management better.
I hope to see a dedicated Passwords app on iOS/iPadOS 16 and macOS 13, unfettered from Settings/System Preferences, with additional categories, iCloud shared vaults, keyboard shortcuts, and better credential management UI.
I think if it was widely known how to set up the 2fa or how easy it actually is, more would use it. I just don't think most people are aware that you don't need an additional 2fa app.
Other than cross platform:
1. Using tags/folders to organize passwords
2. Multiple profiles
3. Watchtower Password security check
4. A dedicated app for easier access
5. Web access
But there are better and cheaper alternatives with the same features like the native Bitwarden.
Any word on when the new version will be up in the App Store?
Better is subjective. Agilebits gives Bitwarden a masterclass in UI and UX design.
I leave 1pass open all day for work. currently 1pass 7 never goes above 100mb ram used. My guess is 1pass 8 is going to take a least a gigabyte with electron, no thanks. me and my 16gb are already hurting from teams, outlook, Firefox, and a couple other apps. teams is the worst offender, because electron.
For me, there are a number of features that I use on 1Password that don't exist in iCloud Keychain
Multiple Vaults - I have different vaults for personal, work and family vaults. If I leave a job, I can just deactivate a vault and all the passwords are no longer visable. If I was on keychain I would have to manually remove all the individual work related passwords (which I have a lot of.)
Shared Vaults - I can create passwords vaults that can be shared with others. I have one vault that has all my financial passwords and bank account information. It is shared only with my wife, so, if anything were to happen to me, she would be able to login in. I have another vault that is shared with family that has all our steaming passwords. If I need to update a password, I only have to update the vault, not tell everyone the password.
More than passwords - I can save a lot more than passwords and credit cards in 1Password. I can save software licenses and purchase information (and include attachments, say a PDF of the receipt). I can save all my ID information for me and my family (I have all our driver's licenses, in case I need it.) Yes, there are other tools for saving this data, but this is encrypted and safe and I don't need another application.
Works in my choice of browsers (Edge) - Fact is Apple limits keychain to Safari. With 1P I can choose which browser I want to use and not be tied to Safari.