1Password for iOS Updated With Secure Notes Markdown Support and Several Fixes

I’d like to try out 1password, but the endless monthly fee is a big turnoff. I’d gladly pay a flat fee, but sick of everyone trying to nickel and dime you perpetually.

 

Fair enough. I don't mind since it's only $3 a month. That won't even buy me a cup of coffee.

 

You can buy buy the iOS App and the desktop app with a one-time purchase. You will have to use another sync service but everything else is the same.

 

You can pay a flat fee. The subscription is for their hosted service, but you can keep stuff local or sync through Wi-Fi.

 

In case you don’t see the markdown support, you aren’t the only one. Seems like they jumped the gun on this one.
https://discussions.agilebits.com/discussion/93670/1password-7-1-rich-text#latest

 

I'm most looking forward to seeing 1Password integrate with iOS like it does on OSX so I don't have to switch to the app every time I want a password, which I understand is something that's going to be supported at some point in iOS12.

I know the guys from AgileBits tend to keep an eye on these forums, so it would be interesting to hear if there's an update on this?

 

I understand it's a turnoff, but think about it from their perspective. They have employees they need to pay, they have to keep working on the app to ensure it stays secure and up-to date, server costs, etc. It's not like they release the app, and then leave it in the wild to fend for itself.

 

Per today it is possible to use the share button to fill passwords, so hope it is possible to log in with 1 tap + FaceID / TouchID in iOS 12 to make it faster.

iOS 11 you:
Tap Share > 1Password > FaceID / TouchID > Select account > Tap Log in

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I also hate the monthly fee and hav bought 1Password 7 for €54,99 via the 1Password Mac app + kr 109 / ≈ €10 in app purchase in the iOS app. and you get free updates, but have to pay for some major updates, like any other software.
I sync passwords via iCloud, but I do not have the 1Password web login.

 

Well as you mentioned, there is some level of integration in iOS12, they posted a video on their twitter handle on WWDC day, here is the link: https://twitter.com/1password/status/1003824297725460481?s=21

I am not sure if anything is available in their beta versions or not, I am sure they will release the version with browser integration as soon as iOS12 goes public. They are generally very quick when it comes to all this. Hope this helps.

 

For me it’s matter of principals. About a year ago I noticed I was paying a surprising amount of money due to continuos subscriptions. Some of them are valid such as Office 365 which offer me cloud storage but some of them were just bizarre due to fact that they had no rapid software updates or any online component that could have justified subscription model. Therefore, I cut down every single subscription service that I found wasn’t offering good value proposal or more like was plainly ripping their users off.

Regarding 1Password, I like the software but I see no point whatsoever to pay for subscription.

 

You can buy the standalone version but with the standalone version each app is a separate purchase for each platform. iCloud/Dropbox are also required to sync the data.

 

I know, I’ve been using 1Password for years. However, their standalone pricing has skyrocketed over the years. It seems they would very much prefer that everyone bought in on their subscription model. Unfortunately I see no added value in 1Password subscription. I definitely don’t want to share any of my passwords and I don’t use Windows anywhere. Therefore, subscription is zero value to me but still I should pay for upgrade what is essentially an update. Seriously, what is updated in standalone version of 1Password? As far as I know it’s only GUI tweaks. Even more so, there is no upgrade pricing for 1Password 7. As far as I know I should pay close to $65 for this update. That said, I’m looking for a 1Password alternative. I feel like Agile software is screwing the users who have no need for subscription.

 

It’s version 7.1 not 1.7

It’s $5.99 per family, and $4.99 if you pay upfront.

 

Pretty much the reason Im staying with version 6 of the stand alone, while it works. I've been using 1PW since version 4, and love the software. But they didnt even offer a reduced price for v6 users when v7 came out. And the price is becoming a bit steep. If they supported loyal customers a bit, I might feel more compelled to upgrade.

 

So I understand correctly:

You're totally fine paying for Office 365 for cloud storage but you're uncomfortable paying 3$ a month for what is likely the most important application anybody can have at this point in time?

You would think after all the breaches folks would realize that password management is quite possibly the most valuable tool you have - it essentially protects you as a person (e.g., would you store your social security card in an untrusted location?)

I use LastPass but the monthly-sub is hardly an issue. Do you have any idea how hard it is to stay up to date with software security trends? Do you have *any* idea what it costs to run a dev shop? Imagine this:

5 software engineerings alone in a tech hub city (Seattle, SFO, Boston, NYC, etc) would cost you around 750-800,000 a year in salary, not including benefits, bonus, and cost of doing business (e.g., equipment, office space etc.)

So.. yeah. 3 bucks a month is pretty reasonable when you figure theres more like 100 employees at the company.

 

That’s because they haven’t charge for an update since 1Password 4 I think? So from 1Password 4 to 5 was a free update and from 1Password 5 to 6 was a free update. You can also have gotten the beta during the last week of beta and got it for 1/2 price.

 

But there is an upgrade for 7 and a stand-alone pricing.
I upgraded when it WAS discounted, but you can still buy it & upgrade.
There’s an in-app purchase. I don’t like that they hide it, but still possible.

https://1password.com/downloads/

 

Well I just opened up 1PW and went through my purchases, and you are right. I bought 1PW v3, also paid for 1PW v4, but the rest have been free upgrades it seems. I pay for so many software updates each year I've lost track, and for some reason thought they fell into an almost Parallels type upgrade model.

So you are spot on, and in the scheme of things their stand alone pricing could absolutely be far worse.

 

I agree. If you want to get something with good quality, great customer service, up-to-date app, you'd have to invest on it. I can't say the same with the majority of app developers that require payments. I think 1Password is worth investing in considering they make my life easier and keep my passwords secure. If they start slacking off, then I have a problem with it.

 

Ah, I didn’t realize that. I actually don’t want them hosting anything for me. I’m looking to switch from LastPass and want to just have a local solution on Mac/iPhone. So in that case I’d just buy the Mac app and the iPhone part would work without subscribing? Maybe I’ll give it a try then!

 

it is a turn off, but I believe they still sell the stand alone app on their website. 1Password is easily one of the best software I have ever used which actually makes your life easier and gui is intuitive, but I hate subscription. I was told there was a free version of LassPass, but I checked it seems subscription too. There is KeePass but I never tried those two so I can not recommend.

If they sell it at $60 bi-annually with 1 million customers, they will make $30m a year revenue. Hopefully that is enough for them to cover costs and make a profit. In the 90s not 1 vendor was subscription based, in fact probably the whole 2000's wasn't either and all developers big and small developers remained in business.

I understand they can't make software and sell it 1 time and get infinite updates for 20 years. But here are some problems with the subscription model:

1. If I fail to pay, for whatever reason, the software stops working. Making you always in the risk of losing the service, on the opposite of purchasing the software. Even if its the older version, it works none the less.
2. Subscription requires an internet connection-AFAIK-no internet no work.
3. I believe 1password subscription model stores your passwords in the cloud. Life taught me not to store anything sensitive in the cloud. Its just a matter of time. Its always safer to store locally.
4. Subscription adds up. Netflix, Apple Music, Office 365, Adobe Cloud, 1Password, PSN, Cable TV, Dropbox, iCloud, Amazon Prime, Gmail Pro. It gets tiring. People want to pay one time and feel safe they got what they want, not worrying having to pay for it next month like rent.

 

Here's an alternative: https://www.enpass.io

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At least give Enpass a try before paying for 1P https://www.enpass.io.
I was a 1P user not long ago, but due to their push towards subscription and the ridiculously expensive single license I ended up with Enpass on everything. Don't regret it. The UI may not be as finely polished as 1P, but it does its job.

 

1. You still have access to your passwords if you stop paying. You can even export them. It just won’t add new data or auto fill for you.

2. You only need internet to sync, just like if you use Dropbox to sync. If you need a password on you phone, and no internet, everything will be there.

3. They have a white paper explaining the security. Troy Hunt (a security expert uses them.) 2 encryption keys and 2 step authentication as well. More info here:
https://1password.com/security/

4. I have no issues paying for something I see it had value. You pay for office 365 and Dropbox? Personally I would just use Office since it has 1TB of cloud storage. I also have the 1password for family plan and it comes out $12 a year per person. My I laws and mother pay so it off sets the cost.

I also look for deals. I’ll get iTunes gift cards on sale to pay for iCloud and Apple Music. 1Password has gift cards and you can get $125 for $99. Subscriptions are getting much, but they better have value if I am going to pay.

 

The idea of comparing a dev shop in the 90's to a dev shop today is so.. insane...

the cost is ASTRONOMICALLY higher today.. it's not even in the same universe.

Based on what I can gather I bet their cost of doing business is 20m+/year.