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Seeing the replies (and knowing I need to be better than I currently am) I thought I'd have a look at 1password, but it is yet another subscription service. That is a hard pass for me.

Is there a similar one people can recommend where I can just pay a one off fee, please?
As far as I'm aware you can still buy a standalone version of 1Password, they just do a very good job of hiding on their website. I'd sugggest contacting their customer support and ask.


Aha, I did a quick Google and found this: https://1password.onfastspring.com/in-app/1password-7-for-mac

Do be aware that the standalone version may not support all the features found in the subscription version. So my advice is still to contact their customer support and ask what the differences may be (and to check that the link I found is legit).
 
Seeing the replies (and knowing I need to be better than I currently am) I thought I'd have a look at 1password, but it is yet another subscription service. That is a hard pass for me.

Is there a similar one people can recommend where I can just pay a one off fee, please?
I guess I must have the original apps that are connected to Dropbox … because I don’t pay any subscription. Unless it has changed you can just buy the app once and use your own cloud syncing. The subscription I assumed was only for syncing in their cloud ?
 
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As far as I'm aware you can still buy a standalone version of 1Password, they just do a very good job of hiding on their website. I'd sugggest contacting their customer support and ask.


Aha, I did a quick Google and found this: https://1password.onfastspring.com/in-app/1password-7-for-mac

Do be aware that the standalone version may not support all the features found in the subscription version. So my advice is still to contact their customer support and ask what the differences may be (and to check that the link I found is legit).
Beat me to it lol — I’m still rocking the stand-alone apps with dropbox
 
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Another really useful feature is the ability to handle 2FA. Whenever a site provides a QR code to enroll, 1Password has a simple icon you can click that will scan the page and add it to the stored item. Then you'll always have the 6-digit code available to you without having to check your phone. LastPass can also do this (store TOTP), but it doesn't have the QR code scanner.
 
As far as I'm aware you can still buy a standalone version of 1Password, they just do a very good job of hiding on their website. I'd sugggest contacting their customer support and ask.


Aha, I did a quick Google and found this: https://1password.onfastspring.com/in-app/1password-7-for-mac

Do be aware that the standalone version may not support all the features found in the subscription version. So my advice is still to contact their customer support and ask what the differences may be (and to check that the link I found is legit).
Just checked out the link, €67....wow...way too much imho.
 
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Serious question — why would someone use this app over the iCloud Keychain? Is it just because it’s cross platform?
Good question. I've asked myself the same thing, having previously been a user of LastPass.

For individual users I suspect that Apple's integrated KeyChain, with sync to all devices, is the easiest (and certainly cheapest) solution.

For businesses wanting to centralise and control password management, LastPass does have some nice features, though.
 
Serious question — why would someone use this app over the iCloud Keychain? Is it just because it’s cross platform?
Keychain is not reliable and cannot store other important information related to a website or account. Never rely on only on keychain or any other password manager. Always have a backup app for your passwords.
 
Seeing the replies (and knowing I need to be better than I currently am) I thought I'd have a look at 1password, but it is yet another subscription service. That is a hard pass for me.

Is there a similar one people can recommend where I can just pay a one off fee, please?
Strongbox is an excellent app with the same kinds of features as 1Password. I highly recommend.
 
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Yes dear sir, that's exactly why I asked the question and some lovely people provided amazing responses for which I'm grateful, however you're not one of them.

Becuase in every post about 1Password, this EXACT same question is asked (along with the inevitable "but, but, SUBSCRIPTIONS are bad!" posts). In most cases (maybe not you), the OP does not actually want a valid answer, they just want to bash a non-Apple application that dares try and make money.)

But, here are only a few reasons I will always use 1P over Keychain

  • Multiple vaults - I can keep my passwords organized by work, personal, financial, streaming services, etc.
  • Sharing vaults - I can share vaults with others in my family so they can only see certain passwords (e.g. my whole family has access to our streaming passwords, only my wife & I have access to our financial passwords)
  • Works with ANY browser, not just Safari. I use Edge as my primary browser. Keychain doesn't work with it. So, I need a password manager that works with my choice of browser.
  • Store more than passwords. I keep all my software licenses in 1P. Plus I can attach receipts, emails, etc. to the entries to keep everything together.
  • More flexibility in generating passwords. Unfortunately, there is still a lot of legacy tech on the internet and some site don't support long or complex passwords (or have very limited complexity support). I need something that I can fine tune passwords.
  • A MUCH BETTER GUI than Keychain. Not all my passwords are linked to a website (e.g. my login password to my work computer.) I regularly need to look up passwords that need to be typed on another device. That would be painful in Keychain.
I know there are other choices (Bitwarden, Keypass, etc). But I have built my workflow around 1P. It costs my $60 a year. That is a small price to pay for the benefit it gives me. If other software works for someone else. Good for them.
 
Seeing the replies (and knowing I need to be better than I currently am) I thought I'd have a look at 1password, but it is yet another subscription service. That is a hard pass for me.

Is there a similar one people can recommend where I can just pay a one off fee, please?
I believe there is still a way to buy the standalone version as of a few months ago. Someone here had posted a link. If I can find it, I add it.
 
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Seeing the replies (and knowing I need to be better than I currently am) I thought I'd have a look at 1password, but it is yet another subscription service. That is a hard pass for me.

Is there a similar one people can recommend where I can just pay a one off fee, please?
I've been using the non subscription version for many years. Still am. I don't know how you find it on their website, but I'm on a still-supported version, so I know it's available. Try contacting them (maybe through chat) and see what they say. I DESPISE subscriptions.
 
If only Apple could develop a viable Keychain, with the same features as modest passwords manager apps...

In the meantime, I hope LastPass integrates those TouchID features too.
 
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I believe there is still a way to buy the standalone version as of a few months ago. Someone here had posted a link. If I can find it, I add it.

They did but doesn't look like it anymore. It really is a great program and not expensive. Worth supporting good developers I think. If there was any subscription I wouldn't want to do without, it's this program. I don't work for them or anything, just have used the program for over 7 years.
 
Is there a similar one people can recommend where I can just pay a one off fee, please?
Go open source. Use the Keepass database format. It's cross-platform and supported by multiple different apps. You'll not be locked in to a commercial vendor. On the Mac KeepassXC (free) or Strongbox (more "luxurious") are good choices. On iOS again Strongbox or Keepassium are great.
 
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There’s a few reasons I use LastPass.

  1. Cross platform and allows me to use my passwords across multiple iCloud accounts.
  2. Ability to store bank details and credit card numbers (cross platform).
  3. Ability to store secure documents (eg legal docs that I want to keep around - and safe).
  4. Flexible password generator that can easily confirm to a website‘s requirements (eg no special characters or at least 1).
Is it any better than the others? Probably not, but it works for me and reduces the number of passwords I need to remember across devices to one.
Serious question from someone who does not use these apps. Answer is probably obvious to those that know more about it. Wouldn’t using something like this be much LESS secure? If someone found out your one password, could they then have access to everything?
 
Serious question — why would someone use this app over the iCloud Keychain? Is it just because it’s cross platform?
iCloud Keychain lacks family support. I share information with my dad and wife through 1P Families, whether it's certain documents related to finances or identities so my wife has access, or software my dad and I share. This is in addition to all of the other replies you've received, I've been using 1P since the standalone days and while subscriptions aren't my cup of tea, 1P is one I'll stick with for the foreseeable future. AgileBits customer service is wonderful too, they've credited me a good amount of subscription runway for missing promos before.

I used to use iCloud Keychain and it's definitely improved over the years but it was too little too late since I had already migrated to 1P.
 
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Serious question from someone who does not use these apps. Answer is probably obvious to those that know more about it. Wouldn’t using something like this be much LESS secure? If someone found out your one password, could they then have access to everything?
With 1Password you need only the master password to unlock everything if you've been signed in on that device already. If it's a new device you need your account email, a long encryption key, and the master password. Then 2FA if you set it up. You can also set it up to work with a NAS instead of internet, where the content you save isn't accessible to those not on your network.
 
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