It always amazes me that, on this page, you post anything negative about Apple, you are called a troll, hater, etc, usually by the same people that have no problem posting negative posts and out and out lies about anything not Apple. If I find a product useful and even choose to defend them doesn't mean that I work for them. I am just sharing my opinion and providing a counter to the other posters. And, yes I will call out blatant lies when I see them. (P.S. I am not calling you out, specifically, more a generate comment about how posters are treated on this page).
I would be very glad to hear your opposing opinion as long as you are honest about it and do not have personal gain from it. If you feel 1password makes your life better go ahead and pay them. I feel ProtonMail makes my life better and I am subscribed to them ($50/year) over the privacy abusive (although "free") Gmail.
What is the foreseeable future? People on this page are complaining that they are still using version 6 of 1Password and not being supported? Even Apple only supports most versions of their O/S for N-2, or about 3 years. I don't think that is unreasonable.
foreseable future I would say:-
At least 1 year
2 years = expected
3 years= nice
5 years= I am a loyal customer.
no updates after purchase = Stingy and upsetting customer service, but it is what it is and fair enough.
You don't like subscriptions, fine. Why do you and others feel the need to attack us that find the cost of subscription palatable and a worthwhile cost?
I am not attacking you, I am attacking the business model and promoting against it. In the past, me and others, had success by complaining enough about privacy abusive services. Now we succeeded as we now have:
DuckDuckGo, Brave Search, Brave Browser, TutaNota, ProtonMail, ProtonVPN, Mullvad, GrapheneOS, NextCloud, Cryptee, Skiff, Joplin, Bitwarden....etc
You may not like it, but this is where the software industry is going because the cost of maintaining software has changed. You don't send a CD (or a stack of floppies) every 2-3 years for an update.
No thats not where the industry is going, thats where money hungry developers want to take the industry like Google and FB want to take take the internet industry to privacy invasive, user tracking, info selling one.
Users now expect new features on a continual basis.
No they do not. I for one am tired of having 400mbps apps getting every other day updates where I see no diffierence in functionality not to mention they keep adding bloat features to justify the rental price.
Yes, there are still some developers that can afford to follow the old model. But, for many of them, it becomes a pseudo subscriptions. I still pay every year, but it is called an "upgrade". Sure I can keep the old version running, but it may not be compatible with Apple's latest version of the O/S.
Older version do not become obsolete as fast as you say. Unless it uses an abandoned technology it will continue to work just fine. Even then the developer can release some small fix and continue to work. It depends on the software, but not all software will die once MacOS gets upgraded. It will last at least 3-5 years.
No, I don't think that. The myth that FOSS is somehow more secure, is just that a myth. Ask anyone whose holiday season was ruined last year by the log4j vulnerability. How many thousands (millions) of hours did organizations waste trying to remediate the issue? I was lucky, but I know many people on my team were working on Christmas Day.
The thought is that FOSS is more secure is because the code is open and anyone can review it. But, 99.99999% of the users couldn't read the code if they wanted. Have you PERSONALLY reviewed the code for BitWarden? If not, you are making an assumption that someone else has. Meanwhile, I can point to the security audits that 1Password has submitted their application to.
FOSS is not more secure, but popular continually in development FOSS is. Many people use it, many people work on it, many security researchers look into it. I would agree about some random guy uploading some app on GitHub with 5 users but I really doubt it on something like Debian Linux or FireFox. You also speak as if closed source is more secure. Look at how many times corporates got breached. Heck even 1password has a feature called watch tower to inform you when your passwords got breached on some site.
Regarding storing it locally, sure, you know what is safer, writing my password in a notebook and storing the notebook in a fireproof safe in my house. Not very convenient. If you store it locally, I would hope you have a back-up somewhere? Is that backup in your house? What happens if you lose your devices? Do you lose your passwords?
Yes, local copy is safer, but we all make daily decisions between safety and convenience? Walk versus Drive? Stay home or go to work? I have read the security paper that 1password publishes and I am comfortable that the data is securely encrypted. and even if the servers were breached, my passwords would be safe. Is there a chance they could be decrypted, sure. There is also a chance I will get hit by a meteor or win the lottery today. But the chances are very low.
As for local copies, I have it stored on multiple devices, synced, and also backups. I also have an encrypted backed up stored in a an encrypted cloud storage.
I am not sure what data you are using to suggest they are "thriving"? MR Forums is NOT a representative sample of users in the world. While BW may be popular with some users, I am not aware of Enterprise usage. However, 1Password is popular in organizations. In fact, at least at one time, Apple was a customer.
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not sure if a reliable source, but you do know that Bitwarden solely rely on enterprise for income right?
Just to be clear, if you like Bitwarden or something else, great. I am not going to try and change your mind. But, I will come and correct the false and misleading statements and provide my opinion that 1password is a great product and well worth the cost.
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you. The only reason I see 1password has an advantage over Bitwarden is the mini-assistant. On the other hand, Bitwarden has a killer feature called custom fields where you can populate any field on any form on any site even if had 100 fields. If 1password has such option, i do not know about it but last I checked it did not.
I am pretty confident that for
most people when I tell them do you want to use FOSS Bitwarden for free or pay $3/month for 1password to do mostly the same thing, very little will chose the closed source forever rent $3 option but to each his own.
