1st gen users, have you upgraded?

[44267547]

So, you want a different design...yet still capable of using same bands as the older Watches...pretty much necessitating the same lugless design (square/rectangle)? You don't want it to be any thinner (as you wrote earlier)...so, same thickness (if not more). So, what exactly are you expecting to change?

BUT, you want CHANGES!! A REDESIGN even!!

Those are strict criteria for any designer! .

You're creating a strawman argument out of nothing But I will more than happy to oblige your reply with my purported redesign features. It's not always about reducing the depth of the Apple Watch, when there is plenty of other hardware advancements to improve upon, which not all will agree with the changes, but most want to see some changes.

Ultimately, I would like to see the following changes:

1.) Additional casing options (Titanium, Rose Gold Stainless, etc)

2.) larger display variant (44/46 MM)

3.) Micro-Led (Highly efficient/Pixel Density)

http://evertiq.com/mobile/39874

http://appleinsider.com/articles/15...raise-seen-as-potential-oled-replacement/amp/

4.) Digital Crown-(Perhaps add more functionality/Redesign)

5.) Round variant (Highly discussed on here, I would like diversity, even though I appreciate the current design.)

6.) The Heartrate sensor/backing of the Watch to be reduced without the bulge, so it would sit flush with the wrist)

Ultimately, I love the weight of the stainless model, which I appreciate the thickness it has now, because it provides some sense that the Watch has substantiality that a real mechanical owns. Add my Stainless link bands to the mix and it really feels awesome. I actually wore a mechanical Watch with my Apple Watch today, but it actually worked for me, even if it looked awkward.

Thats the reason why I abandoned the Sport model, it felt like a toy and was way to light for my liking. (40% lighter under the stainless Watch).

If Apple can provide some of the changes I posted without sacrificing the weight of the stainless, I would be content with that.

Also, Diversity is needed for continuing to refresh the line up, expand to all demographics and of course, Investors play a role in this as well. The wearable market still is a shaky, superfluous entity, which I believe Apple has some big changes coming in 2018 (Aside from The rumored minor Series 3 update Fall 2017.)

 

[Thai]

You're creating a strawman argument out of nothing But I will more than happy to oblige your reply with my purported redesign features. It's not always about reducing the depth of the Apple Watch, when there is plenty of other hardware advancements to improve upon, which not all will agree with the changes, but most want to see some changes.

Ultimately, I would like to see the following changes:

1.) Additional casing options (Titanium, Rose Gold Stainless, etc)

2.) larger display variant (44/46 MM)

3.) Micro-Led (Highly efficient/Pixel Density)

http://evertiq.com/mobile/39874

http://appleinsider.com/articles/15...raise-seen-as-potential-oled-replacement/amp/

4.) Digital Crown-(Perhaps add more functionality/Redesign)

5.) Round variant (Highly discussed on here, I would like diversity, even though I appreciate the current design.)

6.) The Heartrate sensor/backing of the Watch to be reduced without the bulge, so it would sit flush with the wrist)

Ultimately, I love the weight of the stainless model, which I appreciate the thickness it has now, because it provides some sense that the Watch has substantiality that a real mechanical owns. Add my Stainless link bands to the mix and it really feels awesome. I actually wore a mechanical Watch with my Apple Watch today, but it actually worked for me, even if it looked awkward.

Thats the reason why I abandoned the Sport model, it felt like a toy and was way to light for my liking. (40% lighter under the stainless Watch).

If Apple can provide some of the changes I posted without sacrificing the weight of the stainless, I would be content with that.

Also, Diversity is needed for continuing to refresh the line up, expand to all demographics and of course, Investors play a role in this as well. The wearable market still is a shaky, superfluous entity, which I believe Apple has some big changes coming in 2018 (Aside from
The rumored minor Series 3 update Fall 2017.)

So hardware upgrade? Redesign sure has different meaning to you and me.

Heart rate sensor pokes out to ensure contact with skin. No way around this.

3 sizes may lead to fragmentation in an already limited (watch) App Store. Remember devs will have to support series 0, 1, 2, and 3. Now you want to add 3 sizes?!

 

[Jacoblee23]

I upgraded to the series 1 watch and I am blown away at how much faster it is than my first gen. Well worth the upgrade.

 

[ekwipt]

I've had the first watch about 3 months after it came out and i still wear it, but i wont upgrade until there's more features upgraded and more apps, i also feel that app developers haven't really taken advantage of the watch or/and the watch hasn't gotten the features to make it possible.

Apps take forever to load
Not enough storage space
Battery sometimes runs to low
Not enough feedback on sleep data (it should've been a priority in a smart watch, one of the top ones imo)
needs more automatic type features (when you go to work do this, when i'm at the gym do this (could be easy fix with GPS from phone)
Bluetooth seems to be a ****** protocol for the watch data (it feels like apple needs to come out with its own spec)
Badges are dumb, i really don't give a ...
more watch faces, i mean, it's the point of the whole have a screen on a watch really (everything else should come second)
video calling and front facing camera

kind of a wish list, i realise tech probably has to be shrunken down a lot more

 

[BarracksSi]

video calling and front facing camera

God… no.

Ok, try it. Hold your wrist so the watch faces you straight-on. Keep it there for ten minutes... no, just five minutes.

Tell us how it goes. We'll wait.

 

[ekwipt]

God… no.

Ok, try it. Hold your wrist so the watch faces you straight-on. Keep it there for ten minutes... no, just five minutes.

Tell us how it goes. We'll wait.

It may not work in all instances but that's whats' Handoff is for (when it works properly, does it ever work properly?)

anyway just some suggestions obviously

 

[44267547]

I've had the first watch about 3 months after it came out and i still wear it, but i wont upgrade until there's more features upgraded and more apps, i also feel that app developers haven't really taken advantage of the watch or/and the watch hasn't gotten the features to make it possible.

Apps take forever to load
Not enough storage space
Battery sometimes runs to low
Not enough feedback on sleep data (it should've been a priority in a smart watch, one of the top ones imo)
needs more automatic type features (when you go to work do this, when i'm at the gym do this (could be easy fix with GPS from phone)
Bluetooth seems to be a ****** protocol for the watch data (it feels like apple needs to come out with its own spec)
Badges are dumb, i really don't give a ...
more watch faces, i mean, it's the point of the whole have a screen on a watch really (everything else should come second)
video calling and front facing camera

kind of a wish list, i realise tech probably has to be shrunken down a lot more

The front facing camera/FaceTime on the Apple Watch will likely never exist. Another company already (CMRA) already developed a band that does this.

It looks hideous. But here is the link below.

http://getcmra.com/

 

[ekwipt]

The front facing camera/FaceTime on the Apple Watch will likely never exist. Another company already (CMRA) already developed a band that does this.

It looks hideous. But here is the link below.

http://getcmra.com/

maybe by watch 5 they'll have it

Would anyone let apple prick your skin for continuous blood updates

 

[44267547]

So hardware upgrade? Redesign sure has different meaning to you and me.

Heart rate sensor pokes out to ensure contact with skin. No way around this.

3 sizes may lead to fragmentation in an already limited (watch) App Store. Remember devs will have to support series 0, 1, 2, and 3. Now you want to add 3 sizes?!

Respectfully Thai, that's not what fragmentation means and you're using it inappropriately. Aside from fragmentation being mis-used , car examples are next in line for horrible representations on here. Using the term fragmentation, it doesn't necessarily apply to a product line or specific entity. Especially when dealing with electronics, being how technology is highly dynamic .

If that's your argument about fragmentation, then you should research Apples back history. If You look at Apples lineup in the iPhone and iPad, many feel that these lineups are convoluted and confusing to the consumer what to purchase, because of all the available models. But Apple overtime expanded because they realize that different sizes appeal to different demographics. Hence why they brought back the iPhone SE and retained the iPad mini.

My Point is,With the Apple Watch being as new as it is, it's still further expanding. It's really still too early to determine where it will lead from here. Even if they expanded to a larger variant aside from the 38 mm/42 mm, I think you would find out that Apple Will ultimately find that a round variant and or new various sizes of Apple Watch is a high possibility. If I had to make one prediction for a major overhauled Apple Watch, it would be we would see a larger display.

I understand the heart rate sensor is not flush to enable the heart rate reading, it's just a preference that I'd like to see it more flush if it were possible.

I Agree about the point you made about the developers. However, most of those applications for the current generations of the Apple Watch, really have no effect at this junction, because there's no telling what Apple will support based on watchOS, which is the end decision of what happens for developers and applications to move forward.

 

[Thai]

Respectfully Thai, that's not what fragmentation means and you're using it inappropriately. Aside from fragmentation being mis-used , car examples are next in line for horrible representations on here. Using the term fragmentation, it doesn't necessarily apply to a product line or specific entity. Especially when dealing with electronics, being how technology is highly dynamic .

If that's your argument about fragmentation, then you should research Apples back history. If You look at Apples lineup in the iPhone and iPad, many feel that these lineups are convoluted and confusing to the consumer what to purchase, because of all the available models. But Apple overtime expanded because they realize that different sizes appeal to different demographics. Hence why they brought back the iPhone SE and retained the iPad mini.

My Point is,With the Apple Watch being as new as it is, it's still further expanding. It's really still too early to determine where it will lead from here. Even if they expanded to a larger variant aside from the 38 mm/42 mm, I think you would find out that Apple Will ultimately find that a round variant and or new various sizes of Apple Watch is a high possibility. If I had to make one prediction for a major overhauled Apple Watch, it would be we would see a larger display.

I understand the heart rate sensor is not flush to enable the heart rate reading, it's just a preference that I'd like to see it more flush if it were possible.

I Agree about the point you made about the developers. However, most of those applications for the current generations of the Apple Watch, really have no effect at this junction, because there's no telling what Apple will support based on watchOS, which is the end decision of what happens for developers and applications to move forward.

Lots of words you wrote there....

I will keep mine brief and to the point...I disagree for reasons already stated.