Well I hope we don't see a new PS in a few months, I just bought CS4! The earliest you will see CS5 is around March-April 2010, latest around November 2010 if they stick to their usual product cycle (18-24 months).
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2.26 8 vs 2.93 quad running photoshop
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Well I hope we don't see a new PS in a few months, I just bought CS4! The earliest you will see CS5 is around March-April 2010, latest around November 2010 if they stick to their usual product cycle (18-24 months).
Maybe they should take a little more time this time in order to port to cocoa, support 64-bit code and offloading to the GPU, rip out all the horrible UI "improvements" from CS4, and generally make things more mac-like next time.
Yup!
But I seriously doubt CS5 will change anything in that regard. It will be 64-bit though. That's something to be happy about!
To squeeze more MT prowess out it they would have to just about completely rethink the application's core architecture. That's a lot of work and expense for not all that much pay-off. So I guess they won't. Maybe some tweaks and tunes here and there as we go along tho.
when is CS5 due???
Aim for the Q2.93! I got it and I am so happy with it that I can not put it in words!
Glad to hear it, as I just purchased the same computer. I was going to go with the Mac Pro 8 core, but it is way overkill for most of the applications I am using and I will pocket the extra $1200+ dollars and bank it for my next machine.
Glad to hear it, as I just purchased the same computer. I was going to go with the Mac Pro 8 core, but it is way overkill for most of the applications I am using and I will pocket the extra $1200+ dollars and bank it for my next machine.
Good decision
Mac Husky said:
Unfortunately the ATI doesn´t work at all with my NEC 2690 - have a look
And I am not going to buy the ATI until the problem is solved. As far as I know it´s is still NOT. Incredible
No problems with the NVDIA at all...
Unfortunately the ATI doesn´t work at all with my NEC 2690 - have a look
And I am not going to buy the ATI until the problem is solved. As far as I know it´s is still NOT. Incredible
No problems with the NVDIA at all...
Mac Husky: That bites! As my first Mac Pro 2006 model had similar issues with the ATI card. The good thing is, Apple and ATI will replace any model, they sent a firmware update that was suppose to fix my card and it didn't then they sent me another unit, which was in my machine for 3+ years and worked flawlessly. I like the fact they are using the newer DDR5 memory, which will help if your doing heavy video applications like I am. I thought I had a problem with my ATI card with Mac Pro 2.26 8 core that I just sent back but it seems like it is the monitor with the problem. I am using my new Macbook with a 24" Gateway screen till my new Mac Pro 2.93 Quad comes in and I am getting a similar issue as the Gateway doesn't want to synch right and some times I get a snowy screen which seems odd. Of course this Macbook is using a NVIDA card...
As long as "keeping the NEC off until the OS is completely booted" is the only way to solve the problem,
you are definitely buying a problem by going for a Mac Pro with the ATI card when you are working on a NEC 2490 or 2690
And I don´t want to buy a unsolved problem paying a lot of bucks for a Mac Pro at all.
I hope it will be solved soon, but neither NEC nor Apple nor ATI seems to feel responsible.
As the NEC works well with the NVDIA card, the problem seems to be a ATI problem.
you are definitely buying a problem by going for a Mac Pro with the ATI card when you are working on a NEC 2490 or 2690
And I don´t want to buy a unsolved problem paying a lot of bucks for a Mac Pro at all.
I hope it will be solved soon, but neither NEC nor Apple nor ATI seems to feel responsible.
As the NEC works well with the NVDIA card, the problem seems to be a ATI problem.
As long as "keeping the NEC off until the OS is completely booted" is the only way to solve the problem,
you are definitely buying a problem by going for a Mac Pro with the ATI card when you are working on a NEC 2490 or 2690
And I don´t want to buy a unsolved problem paying a lot of bucks for a Mac Pro at all.
I hope it will be solved soon, but neither NEC nor Apple nor ATI seems to feel responsible.
As the NEC works well with the NVDIA card, the problem seems to be a ATI problem.
Well you could always buy a Mac Pro with a NVDIA card, problem solved.
Of course, but the "advice" was to go for the ATIWell you could always buy a Mac Pro with a NVDIA card, problem solved.
Of course, but the "advice" was to go for the ATI
Well my advice was to go with the one that works right for you!
I like ATI, but they have had more issues with compatibility that NIVIDA with Apple. However, the new ATI with DDR5 memory is very nice on the different monitors I have tried. I have a couple of cheap Gateways for everyday use and I also have a NEC and a new Mac LED unit, which is very nice. Call me monitor happy.... 
Before ya know it. Certainly WAY before you're even close to selling off your 2009 Mac Pro - which of course was my point.
"March-April 2010, latest around November 2010" is completely wrong tho - For a 64-bit version!
Unfortunately the ATI doesn´t due to compatibility reasonsWell my advice was to go with the one that works right for you!
The speed might work right for me - but as it doesn´t work with my NEC at all...
I am quite not shure, whether Photoshop drives a benefit from the ATI, but FCE might have one later on?!
wow thanks guys
loads of information but my minds made up.... i should let you keep talking as i've also got an NEC 2690 and was going to go for ati card.. do you know if the problem is with the newer reference ones or just the spectraviews as i'm the process of sending mine back because of weird casts on bottom of screen... anyway thanks so much again for all the advice this is a great forum
loads of information but my minds made up.... i should let you keep talking as i've also got an NEC 2690 and was
going to go for ati card.. do you know if the problem is with the newer reference ones or just the spectraviews as i'm the process of sending mine back because of weird casts on bottom of screen... anyway thanks so much again for all the advice this is a great forumI couldn´t find anything concerning your question. In the threads I found so far it is only written NEC 2490 and 2690. No differentiation.loads of information but my minds made up.... i should let you keep talking as i've also got an NEC 2690 and was
ATI driver under OS X, I guess?!
I sent a mail to NEC and AMD this morning to ask if every specification of the 2690 is involved and what the status of problem solving is right now.
Will post the answer here, when I got it...
I got NO answer concerning my question from Apple and AMD at all (so far) but from NEC:
"The poblem indeed is a mismatch of Mac OS and the DDC/CI information of the mentioned NEC monitors.
NEC offers a firmware update for the monitor that should solve the problem.
Therefore the monitor has to be send in to the service center. Nothing will be charged for that".
"The poblem indeed is a mismatch of Mac OS and the DDC/CI information of the mentioned NEC monitors.
NEC offers a firmware update for the monitor that should solve the problem.
Therefore the monitor has to be send in to the service center. Nothing will be charged for that".
I've owned a 2.26GHz 8-Core for about a month now, and I'm not impressed at all. I've got 16GB RAM, Radeon HD4870 graphics, a Velociraptor as my boot drive, and 3 WD 1TB Blacks for the other three SATA bays. I'm running Final Cut Studio and Adobe CS4 Master Collection every day. I use Photoshop CS4 and After Effects CS4 the most.
I'm just not impressed with this 2.26GHz system at all. Honestly, my original Clovertown 3GHz 8-Core with 16GB RAM seemed just as fast, if not a bit peppier. First of all Photoshop CS4 on a Mac blows anyways. Its so much slower than the Photoshop CS3 I was using before. But I really expected better everyday performance from my new machine, and I'm just disappointed is all.
If I could go back, I probably would have got a Quad 2.66GHz with 8GB of RAM, upgraded to 4GB chips when the prices came down, and I probably wouldn't have known the difference from this 8-Core. I'm starting to think that a higher clock speed would have benefited me more.
I'm REALLY disappointed in my 8-Core, and Photoshop CS4 as well. I'm pretty positive that I'm going to sell the 2.26 in the next 6 months when I'm done with the project i'm working on.
I'm just not impressed with this 2.26GHz system at all. Honestly, my original Clovertown 3GHz 8-Core with 16GB RAM seemed just as fast, if not a bit peppier. First of all Photoshop CS4 on a Mac blows anyways. Its so much slower than the Photoshop CS3 I was using before. But I really expected better everyday performance from my new machine, and I'm just disappointed is all.
If I could go back, I probably would have got a Quad 2.66GHz with 8GB of RAM, upgraded to 4GB chips when the prices came down, and I probably wouldn't have known the difference from this 8-Core. I'm starting to think that a higher clock speed would have benefited me more.
I'm REALLY disappointed in my 8-Core, and Photoshop CS4 as well. I'm pretty positive that I'm going to sell the 2.26 in the next 6 months when I'm done with the project i'm working on.
Can´t you do that today and compare right away
- it would influence my decision noticeable Thx for your Posting. Makes me going for a higher clocked quad more an more.
Ok so
Just ordered the 2.93 quad with the ATI as apple assured me they would change it if there is a problem. I'll be using the new reference model of the 2690 so fingers crossed.... will post next week to let anyone know thats interested how it all pans out... thanks again to everyone for advise. will be thinking twice about PS4 judging bluesteels last post... thanks again to mac husky for the links on the raid card, will think about ordering at a later date, gonna see how i get on with the 7200 as i've just spent a whooping 3000 euros
Just ordered the 2.93 quad with the ATI as apple assured me they would change it if there is a problem. I'll be using the new reference model of the 2690 so fingers crossed.... will post next week to let anyone know thats interested how it all pans out... thanks again to everyone for advise. will be thinking twice about PS4 judging bluesteels last post... thanks again to mac husky for the links on the raid card, will think about ordering at a later date, gonna see how i get on with the 7200 as i've just spent a whooping 3000 euros
Looking forward to your post. I wrote another mail to NEC yesterday and asked which NEC 2690 is affected and what firmware. Have no answer yet. As I do have one of the first WUXis I guess I have to go for the NVIDIA card, because I don´t want another firmware. The first WUXis had the possibility to be switched to a SpectraView due to an "error" in the firmware and so could be calibrated on hardwares site. They "fixed the problem" with the next firmware upgrade. And I fear, the WUXi will not be to calibrate by hardware any longer when I send it to NEC?! And I still don´t know, if I would have advantages from the ATI vs NVIDIA for Photoshop at all?!Just ordered the 2.93 quad with the ATI as apple assured me they would change it if there is a problem. I'll be using the new reference model of the 2690 so fingers crossed.... will post next week to let anyone know thats interested how it all pans out... thanks again to everyone for advise. will be thinking twice about PS4 judging bluesteels last post... thanks again to mac husky for the links on the raid card, will think about ordering at a later date, gonna see how i get on with the 7200 as i've just spent a whooping 3000 euros
I am also planning to go for the 2.93 quadro next week. Maybe I should wait for your experiences with the NEC and the ATI.
no point in the both of us taking a chance?? like i say though i will be running the new spectraview reference 2690 which only came on market couple of weeks ago so fingers crossed.... i'll def let you know soon as, i've been waiting saving researching this bloody thing for six months now. it better blow my f**kin mind...
same question, but with audio and logic 8...
Since this thread seem mostly about photoshop and video capabilities, I am still a bit stuck on whether I should get 2 2.26 (8) or a 2.93 Quad - mainly for medium audio/studio use, specifically logic 8.
both options with 6GB ram.... so 2x2.26 equals 4.5, which is better than 2.93, right?
Since this thread seem mostly about photoshop and video capabilities, I am still a bit stuck on whether I should get 2 2.26 (8) or a 2.93 Quad - mainly for medium audio/studio use, specifically logic 8.
both options with 6GB ram.... so 2x2.26 equals 4.5, which is better than 2.93, right?
It doesn't scale like that. But the 2.93 would be better (between those two) for audio stuff. It will actually feel faster and it'll be faster in almost all (95% ?) circumstances. Almost no audio software max's out all cores so 8 cores is only going to be a slight bump in very few cases.
I've tested what I'm saying by timing certain operations with 1 core, 2 cores, 3 cores, 4 cores, and 8 cores in several applications - one of them being Logic 8.