I think thanks giving would be a really interesting time to go... for a second trip. As for the summer I will have to call and ask. Please if you are interested in the project and would like to see the end result please make a small donation @ http://my48hours.com
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2 friends, 48 hours, 1 terminal
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itsbetteronamac said:
How about you go on all the business/personal trips that I'm supposed to do this summer. That'll easily give you 48 hours in a wide variety of airports. Hell, I might even pay you for it!
I wish you luck on the project, but unless you've got an in with the airline all you're going to see are frustrated people.....very frustrated.
Ben
I love the idea as it is pretty oringinal. Good luck with it and I'm sure that either way, it will be a fun experience with a good friend. And to all the naysayers, you can't judge a book by its cover , hehe...
, hehe...Sun Baked said:
If I just want to take pictures and what not for personal use, and not make a real documentary do I still need a film permit. So, I guess I am asking am I better just staying under the radar, or going through all the hoops to get permission?
Just google the "airport film permits" and take a look at the airport you are thinking of.itsbetteronamac said:
Though it does make it look like the Airport Director may have the final say at some of the airports.
Probably run into this type of poo without a permit
There are some people on other forums who are encouraging me to go international right away. Think this is a good idea... yay or nay?
see which airports are easier to get the necessary permits for. i suspect the int terminals will be harder. but they could be more easily pursuaded if you have previous experience with a smaller terminal
What do you guys think of SFO (San Francisco)? It looks like I could do it, and hopefully not run into any problems.
I'd suggest going for an airline hub since there are more terminals; more people running for connections; more facilities to keep people occupied.
Chicago B/C with the tunnel of light might be interesting... although that's airside and without a ticket, you're not going to get through to it. I've only really been in the international terminal at SFO which isn't very interesting.
Chicago B/C with the tunnel of light might be interesting... although that's airside and without a ticket, you're not going to get through to it. I've only really been in the international terminal at SFO which isn't very interesting.
This thread reminds me of an episode of Kath and Kim (an Aussie comedy for those of you not playing in Australia ), where Kath and Kel try to go on their honeymoon, but all flights are delayed because of a strike. They decide to spend their honeymoon IN the airport instead. It's really hilarious.
*walks away slowly as he realises that just about everyone will have no idea what I'm talking about*
), where Kath and Kel try to go on their honeymoon, but all flights are delayed because of a strike. They decide to spend their honeymoon IN the airport instead. It's really hilarious. *walks away slowly as he realises that just about everyone will have no idea what I'm talking about*
Applespider said:
I will be flying in, and I did choose a hub at SFO (united). The reason I am trying to rais money is because the tickets are so expensive and I don't have the money right now to pay for them, and they rest of the costs of the project.
jhu said:
I don't believe that's true.. you cannot use my likeness without my premission, public space or not. Plus, I would agrue that this is NOT a public space, as one cannot get in if one is simply a member of the general public. One MUST have a boarding pass in order to be there.
yellow said:
It's a difficult issue
An individual cannot prevent their image being taken if they are in plain view from a public place. So, is the airport a public place? Often, airports are owned and operated by commissions or corporations, it could be argued that inside an airport is private property.
You cannot commercially exploit the identifiable image of an individual without their permission - the test hinges on whether the use of image is "art" or "commerce"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_photography#Legal_considerations
Off topic, the Canadian Supreme Court has ruled that police (and presumably, anyone else) can take infrared (heat scanning) photos of your home and it does not invade your privacy. So that grow-op with the high intensity metal-halide lights will make you glow...
jhu said:
People "in the public eye" like celeb's and politicians aren't given the same privacy considerations that "normal" people are. If you are shooting "Joe Public" and don't get your subjects to sign a release form you open yourself to getting sued. For example, people video taped by the TV show COPS have to give explicit permission for their image to be used (if they do not then their faces get blurred out). Another example would be if a crew is doing a behind the scenes piece for a Sci-Fi movie and they are taping the director of said Sci-Fi movie giving a presentation at Sci-Fi convention. In/around where the shooting will take place signs will be clearly posted informing the public that taping will be going on and that by entering the area you are consenting to let the filmmakers use your speech and likeness. And anyone who might get "prominently featured" (an interviewee or something like that where they are going to get a fair amount of screen time) is asked to sign a release (just to be on the safe side). If there is no release form (either it was lost or never obtained in the first place) I've seen producers track people down weeks after the event so a release could be obtain if the interviewee had some really good sound bites.
It's not a cut and dry issue, but content producers should always err on the side of caution.
Lethal
Peyton said:
I know this is off topic from the OP but I ate at a TGI fridays at MSP about a year ago and we got plastic knives.
Love the idea and hope that you will share the results in the DPF here on MR. Airports can be great for documentary style photography. I have an image (sorry no JPEG) that is part of the Northern Community College permanent collection that I did at National Airport here in DC. And there is another image that I did for a photo class that I don't have a JPEG ready for. These two I hope that I might find a print that I can scan.
Otherwise here are some images that I did find that are web ready. Of the three, only the first one I am happy with. The other two mentioned above as MIA are the ones of course I m the most happy with (they were shot on film).
My concern is the post 9-11 world. A few snaps on my recent travels over the past year have not drawn attention. But I do think that after 48 hours at an airport would draw attention of security. And seeking permission may require so much paperwork, not to be worth it. You should have seen the song and dance they wanted me to go through at Dulles for a night time photo project for college. I gave up.
Also 48 hours at an airport sounds great. But I have now flown through East and West Coast (US) airports, as well as a couple of international airports - at various times of the day. I am not sure that that there would be enough to give credence to your project. Unless you were given access to more secure areas. Or given a "pass" by being in a public area for an extended time.
For I see a photo project like this (I will not comment on video, since I have little interest in video) of ending up with 48 stunning images. The airports that I have been through in the public areas would be hard pressed for more than 18 hours of true human interest. And I have been through IAD, LGA, ORD, SFO, ATL, BOS, LHR, KEF, EWR, DCA; and so many others.
Otherwise here are some images that I did find that are web ready. Of the three, only the first one I am happy with. The other two mentioned above as MIA are the ones of course I m the most happy with (they were shot on film).
My concern is the post 9-11 world. A few snaps on my recent travels over the past year have not drawn attention. But I do think that after 48 hours at an airport would draw attention of security. And seeking permission may require so much paperwork, not to be worth it.
You should have seen the song and dance they wanted me to go through at Dulles for a night time photo project for college. I gave up. Also 48 hours at an airport sounds great. But I have now flown through East and West Coast (US) airports, as well as a couple of international airports - at various times of the day. I am not sure that that there would be enough to give credence to your project. Unless you were given access to more secure areas. Or given a "pass" by being in a public area for an extended time.
For I see a photo project like this (I will not comment on video, since I have little interest in video) of ending up with 48 stunning images. The airports that I have been through in the public areas would be hard pressed for more than 18 hours of true human interest. And I have been through IAD, LGA, ORD, SFO, ATL, BOS, LHR, KEF, EWR, DCA; and so many others.
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I spent 18 hours in LAX
I did 18 hours in LAX once due to missed connections, overbooking, and really bad luck. How bad is it when your lost luggage beats you home by a day and a half.
There probably will be enough interesting footage in 2 days to fill 2 hours of movie.
From my experience I wouldn't want to sit through it again but I might recommend it to friends.
I did 18 hours in LAX once due to missed connections, overbooking, and really bad luck. How bad is it when your lost luggage beats you home by a day and a half.
There probably will be enough interesting footage in 2 days to fill 2 hours of movie.
From my experience I wouldn't want to sit through it again but I might recommend it to friends.
yellow said:
But the issue is one of how "pubic" verses "private" spaces are handled under the law in the city, county, state, or country you live. There are fine lines on what can and can not be photographed depending on the venue. Then you have the "embarrassment/ridicule" factor s seen by the US courts at least. A photo of a TSA agent doing a strip search of you with your pants down would probably cross the line.
But your simply walking or standing through the airport may stand as OK. jhu said:
There are issues with that at least here in the US. Shopping Malls are "public" places, yet the they are at the same time "private" or "by invitation of the owner" only. Meaning that the Mall security can ask you to leave at any point.
The issue is grayer with airports, since I know of no "public" airport that is private. Most are controlled one way or another by semi-governmental bodies.
virividox said:
Good ideas! There are better times than others. If the OP can wait till winter, they could fly in to ORD or DEN just before a snowstorm approaches.
I find it interesting to watch family reunions at the airport and try to figure out who's who in the family, e.g., kid back from college for the summer, grandparents coming for a visit, spouse back from business trip, etc.
Be sure to catch the action at the baggage claim too, itsbetteronamac. You might consider doing a fast-motion scene there, as the baggage areas fill up, empty, fill up, empty and the luggage appears, disappears, appears, disappears.
Perhaps you'll catch a sports team getting on/off a plane. They are usually lively bunches of travelers. It's sometimes fun to ride on a plane with a team too, unless you plan to sleep on the flight. And I'm always glad when they aren't staying on the same floor of the same hotel as I am!
Be sure to catch the action at the baggage claim too, itsbetteronamac. You might consider doing a fast-motion scene there, as the baggage areas fill up, empty, fill up, empty and the luggage appears, disappears, appears, disappears.
Perhaps you'll catch a sports team getting on/off a plane. They are usually lively bunches of travelers. It's sometimes fun to ride on a plane with a team too, unless you plan to sleep on the flight. And I'm always glad when they aren't staying on the same floor of the same hotel as I am!
Chip NoVaMac said:
Well, my pubic and private spaces are both treated the same - very well by the ladies!
Sorry, I had to razz you on that one, it was just too good to resist!!!!