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Today marks 2 weeks of using my base model (8/256) M2 Midnight MBA.

I find it odd how much controversy there is over this laptop, and since I have the midnight, and the base model it seems I have the worst possible combination...

How is it doing after 9 full charge cycles, and daily use?

Pretty damn well.

No scuffs though it has been in and out of my bag dozens of times, and used like I would use any other computer...
Keyboard is noticeably softer than it was when new (I type a lot), but that is to be expected.

Shows fingerprints.. Yep. I wipe it down more than my space grey MBP, but it looks awesome to me. Black 90% of the time, looks blue under bright lighting, or outside. I can deal with the fingerprints for the color.

No chips, and yes before I posted this, I examined it closely. I have used the USBC ports a few times each day, but no chips. The sharp edges of the ports do look a bit brighter than the surrounding area, but they looked like that when I opened it up, so I think it is normal. Not noticeable unless you are looking for it.

Battery life is awesome.

No slowdowns or beachballs. None. No problems with getting hot, or slowing down. True; I don't edit video on this notebook, it is for light mobile use. Web work, photo and raster editing, writing, basic normal computer use.

I do have a M1 16" MBP as my heavy lifting computer. Though I have hardly used it these past two weeks. I just grab the MBA, and haven't needed to do any video editing these 2 weeks. If I did need to edit video, I would use the MBP because I need the storage for the files and yeah, the 16" screen is much nicer to edit on.

I think the SSD issue is way overblown, I loaded it up as hard as I could just to get it to swap to the SSD, and still felt responsive and absolutely normal while editing photos and doing web editing work. In normal use I would never have 30 tabs open, and every program on the computer running, but it handled the load just fine.

As this is for when I am out and about, I don't need the larger storage capacity. I have 120gb free, and if I need to access more, I can pull off my NAS over the web. Why pay for more storage I won't need?

I did upgrade the 16" MBP to 1TB because I knew I would need to edit large video files, but that is always done at home, or at a desk somewhere...so no need for it on my run-around computer.

Its a great computer.

I do have 2 complaints, and that is the base price. Should have been $999 Apple could have done that no problem and still had healthy profit margins. Also I would have liked a 12" screen option, as I miss the 12" MacBook format.

For perspective:

I bought the original MBA for $1800 in 2008?, and this computer is 500 times better than that computer... (it was verrrry slow)
I bought the second generation 12" MacBook for about $1500? (can't remember the cost exactly) , and used it as my run-around last year, this is 100 times better than that computer. (slow, and keyboard problems)

So I suppose $1200 isn't a terrible price, but yeah should have been $999

I am flying out of the US on Sunday for 8 days. I would not have taken the 16" MBP, as it is just too heavy to keep with me all the time, but I am certainly taking the M2.

Have fun everyone.
 
Today marks 2 weeks of using my base model (8/256) M2 Midnight MBA.

I find it odd how much controversy there is over this laptop, and since I have the midnight, and the base model it seems I have the worst possible combination...

How is it doing after 9 full charge cycles, and daily use?

Pretty damn well.

No scuffs though it has been in and out of my bag dozens of times, and used like I would use any other computer...
Keyboard is noticeably softer than it was when new (I type a lot), but that is to be expected.

Shows fingerprints.. Yep. I wipe it down more than my space grey MBP, but it looks awesome to me. Black 90% of the time, looks blue under bright lighting, or outside. I can deal with the fingerprints for the color.

No chips, and yes before I posted this, I examined it closely. I have used the USBC ports a few times each day, but no chips. The sharp edges of the ports do look a bit brighter than the surrounding area, but they looked like that when I opened it up, so I think it is normal. Not noticeable unless you are looking for it.

Battery life is awesome.

No slowdowns or beachballs. None. No problems with getting hot, or slowing down. True; I don't edit video on this notebook, it is for light mobile use. Web work, photo and raster editing, writing, basic normal computer use.

I do have a M1 16" MBP as my heavy lifting computer. Though I have hardly used it these past two weeks. I just grab the MBA, and haven't needed to do any video editing these 2 weeks. If I did need to edit video, I would use the MBP because I need the storage for the files and yeah, the 16" screen is much nicer to edit on.

I think the SSD issue is way overblown, I loaded it up as hard as I could just to get it to swap to the SSD, and still felt responsive and absolutely normal while editing photos and doing web editing work. In normal use I would never have 30 tabs open, and every program on the computer running, but it handled the load just fine.

As this is for when I am out and about, I don't need the larger storage capacity. I have 120gb free, and if I need to access more, I can pull off my NAS over the web. Why pay for more storage I won't need?

I did upgrade the 16" MBP to 1TB because I knew I would need to edit large video files, but that is always done at home, or at a desk somewhere...so no need for it on my run-around computer.

Its a great computer.

I do have 2 complaints, and that is the base price. Should have been $999 Apple could have done that no problem and still had healthy profit margins. Also I would have liked a 12" screen option, as I miss the 12" MacBook format.

For perspective:

I bought the original MBA for $1800 in 2008?, and this computer is 500 times better than that computer... (it was verrrry slow)
I bought the second generation 12" MacBook for about $1500? (can't remember the cost exactly) , and used it as my run-around last year, this is 100 times better than that computer. (slow, and keyboard problems)

So I suppose $1200 isn't a terrible price, but yeah should have been $999

I am flying out of the US on Sunday for 8 days. I would not have taken the 16" MBP, as it is just too heavy to keep with me all the time, but I am certainly taking the M2.

Have fun everyone.
Did you ever own the MBA wedge design?
 
Did you ever own the MBA wedge design?
Yes, I had a 2013 Haswell Air. My daughter still uses it. (one battery replacement done)

It was/is a great computer

I had a first gen MacBook Air (2008) , a 11" MacBook Air (2011) then a 2013 Haswell MacBook Air, then a 12" MacBook (2016), and now this.

Ofcourse I have also had several MacBook pros and a few desktop Macs in that time, but the 'throw in your bag and go' Macs seem to have started with the MacBook air.

My favorite physical design was the 12" MacBook no question. If they made that again just as it was, but with an apple M processor, I would absolutely get one.

The 11" MBA was nice and portable, but terrible screen, and the aspect ratio was not good.
 
Thanks for reporting in such detail. Glad to know it’s working well for you. Back in 2008 or so I often wished I had one of those 2007 or pre-2007 black macbooks, seems like they have finally returned. Really nice looking machines!

Being used to your 16”, has it been easy for you during the past 2 weeks to adjust to the smaller screen size?
 
Being used to your 16”, has it been easy for you during the past 2 weeks to adjust to the smaller screen size?

Screen size is definitely noticeable, but I don't feel like I had to adjust much.
I might not be typical on this though, because I bounce from one screen to the next, so I am never looking at one size long enough to be used to it.

I use the MBP open on the desk a lot of the time, but it is usually also connected to one or two external monitors on the right side, so I am always looking back and forth at both the notebook screen, and the secondary screen(s)
I have also done this with the M2, though it is annoying it doesn't allow more than 1 external display (other than with an external adaptor)

I notice the weight and size difference of the notebook itself way more than the screen size.
 
Just started using the M2 MacBook Air as my everyday work computer today. I use it on battery for an normal 8-hour work day. I don't usually use an external monitor at work, I do at home. I don't have battery life information yet since this is the first day using it full-time. Right now though, I started at at about 9:10 AM EDT and it is now 2:45 PM EDT and I'm at 69% which is a bit low for just over 5 hours. I usually end the day with about 45-55% left with the M1 MacBook Air. I have been running some unusual stuff today getting the last bits configured like my previous MBA. I also ran an Xcode benchmark and compiled a couple of personal Xcode projects. Those probably used a bit of battery too.

In no particular order:
  • Midnight color is very nice. I'm not regretting the color.
  • Fingerprints. Not a problem so far. I have an Apple polishing cloth and it seems to just wipe away the minor smudges on the top cover and hand-rests.
  • I haven't pushed the 24 GB yet. Right now, 8 GB of memory used, 13 GB of cached files. This is pretty low for my normal use. I don't use many browser tabs usually but my normal development tools/environment take up a bit of memory. I should probably get back to work.
  • Keyboard is a tiny bit better than the M1 MBA. I really like the oversize ESC key. As a developer, I use that key a lot. The full-size function keys don't seem to matter too much.
  • Screen is brighter at the top but a little less bright in the middle setting? I'd need the M1 & M2 side by side to really tell. At 1/2 brightness the M2 MBA is overall using about 3.4 W at idle. Remaining time on battery is approximately 10 more hours. (I have a couple of command line tools that I can use to tell battery info including an instantaneous "time remaining" value.)
  • Notch is noticeable in Xcode but Xcode isn't my normal working environment so I don't anticipate any problems. People say noticing the notch goes away but it definitely was annoying in Xcode. BBEdit has a weird thing where the cursor jumps from one side of the notch to the other side. Everything else I've tried seems to let the cursor just move under the notch. Not sure why BBEdit is different.
  • Outside of the Xcode command line benchmark, I haven't run anything else. I'll probably do some more testing over the weekend. I also want to run some VMs. There is a new version of VMWare Fusion out and I've been playing around with virtualizing Monterey & Ventura on my Monterey version of MacOS.
  • I haven't downloaded much of my normal data yet. I have a modest number of Photos and personal videos (about 18 GB). I've downloaded my complete Documents folder from iCloud for 35 GB. Music is about 30 GB. Currently I'm showing 825 GB out 994 GB used.
  • Increased screen size hasn't really been particularly noticeable.
 
I’m so attached to ProMotion though ha. Even having gone from my 13 PM Max to a 13 Mini last week it sucks but in a phone I value portability since I try to use it minimally. However, using my MBP 16” for hours and going to 60hz MBA might be a less fun experience and I’m not sure if I want that.
 
"So I suppose $1200 isn't a terrible price, but yeah should have been $999". it would be nice if someone making lame comment like this would provide a competitive basis for making it. I went to the Dell web site and found a somewhat comparable computer for 1400, not 999 (https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/del...3-9320-laptop/xn9320fowrs?view=configurations). Of course it is not directly comparable, the Dell has an inferior screen, a slower SSD (even than the 1-chips 256 GB Ssd everyone is whining about, OK it is larger).a worse web cam, worse speakers, an i5-1240p which is slower (the i7-1260p which might be comparable kicks the specs and price of the Dell way up). so yah, 1200 is not a terrible price, should probably be 1400 I guess
 
"So I suppose $1200 isn't a terrible price, but yeah should have been $999". it would be nice if someone making lame comment like this would provide a competitive basis for making it. I went to the Dell web site and found a somewhat comparable computer for 1400, not 999 (https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/del...3-9320-laptop/xn9320fowrs?view=configurations). Of course it is not directly comparable, the Dell has an inferior screen, a slower SSD (even than the 1-chips 256 GB Ssd everyone is whining about, OK it is larger).a worse web cam, worse speakers, an i5-1240p which is slower (the i7-1260p which might be comparable kicks the specs and price of the Dell way up). so yah, 1200 is not a terrible price, should probably be 1400 I guess
Yea it’s one area I don’t agree with anyone on is the price point. It’s not even comparing to last years model, the air at $999 was in 2020. It’s 2022, inflation is real as well, is what it is.

Even if you take out the major inflation, its a completely redesigned machine. Thinner, lighter, Faster cpu, faster gpu, ddr5 ram, bigger and brighter screen, better battery life etc… People are just finding reasons to complain at this point.

Inflation is real, that’s also why apple hasn’t dropped the price on the 2 year old M1 air. I don’t see how paying full price for a now outdated design and product is the better financial choice.
 
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Yea it’s one area I don’t agree with anyone on is the price point. It’s not evening comparing to last years model, the air at $999 was in 2020. It’s 2022, inflation is real as well, is what it is.

Even if you take out the major inflation, its a completely redesigned machine. Thinner, lighter, Faster cpu, faster gpu, ddr5 ram, bigger and brighter screen, better battery life etc… People are just finding reasons to complain at this point.
The 2020 air is using a form factor that's several years old at this point. Whatever R&D went into it, Apple has more than earned it back at this point.

The 2022 air is a new design, so there is more upfront costs. Maybe we will see the price come down in subsequent refreshes as manufacturing gets more efficient, but right now, I find it reasonable for a product to cost more simply because it costs more to make.
 
Insert sarcastic "it doesn't ignite and start a fire that incinerates the world sparking the second coming of christ???" comments here.
 
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I finally saw one in person yesterday - Nice that they're very thin - but to me, they should have made it a smaller footprint. Then it would have been irresistible.

Also, midnight - is way too finger-printy for me.
 
Today marks 2 weeks of using my base model (8/256) M2 Midnight MBA.

I find it odd how much controversy there is over this laptop, and since I have the midnight, and the base model it seems I have the worst possible combination...

How is it doing after 9 full charge cycles, and daily use?

Pretty damn well.

No scuffs though it has been in and out of my bag dozens of times, and used like I would use any other computer...
Keyboard is noticeably softer than it was when new (I type a lot), but that is to be expected.

Shows fingerprints.. Yep. I wipe it down more than my space grey MBP, but it looks awesome to me. Black 90% of the time, looks blue under bright lighting, or outside. I can deal with the fingerprints for the color.

No chips, and yes before I posted this, I examined it closely. I have used the USBC ports a few times each day, but no chips. The sharp edges of the ports do look a bit brighter than the surrounding area, but they looked like that when I opened it up, so I think it is normal. Not noticeable unless you are looking for it.

Battery life is awesome.

No slowdowns or beachballs. None. No problems with getting hot, or slowing down. True; I don't edit video on this notebook, it is for light mobile use. Web work, photo and raster editing, writing, basic normal computer use.

I do have a M1 16" MBP as my heavy lifting computer. Though I have hardly used it these past two weeks. I just grab the MBA, and haven't needed to do any video editing these 2 weeks. If I did need to edit video, I would use the MBP because I need the storage for the files and yeah, the 16" screen is much nicer to edit on.

I think the SSD issue is way overblown, I loaded it up as hard as I could just to get it to swap to the SSD, and still felt responsive and absolutely normal while editing photos and doing web editing work. In normal use I would never have 30 tabs open, and every program on the computer running, but it handled the load just fine.

As this is for when I am out and about, I don't need the larger storage capacity. I have 120gb free, and if I need to access more, I can pull off my NAS over the web. Why pay for more storage I won't need?

I did upgrade the 16" MBP to 1TB because I knew I would need to edit large video files, but that is always done at home, or at a desk somewhere...so no need for it on my run-around computer.

Its a great computer.

I do have 2 complaints, and that is the base price. Should have been $999 Apple could have done that no problem and still had healthy profit margins. Also I would have liked a 12" screen option, as I miss the 12" MacBook format.

For perspective:

I bought the original MBA for $1800 in 2008?, and this computer is 500 times better than that computer... (it was verrrry slow)
I bought the second generation 12" MacBook for about $1500? (can't remember the cost exactly) , and used it as my run-around last year, this is 100 times better than that computer. (slow, and keyboard problems)

So I suppose $1200 isn't a terrible price, but yeah should have been $999

I am flying out of the US on Sunday for 8 days. I would not have taken the 16" MBP, as it is just too heavy to keep with me all the time, but I am certainly taking the M2.

Have fun everyone.
Right I knew it was controversy to generate views. YouTubers probably made a lots of cash on ads and that YouTuber who shall remain nameless gained subscribers.
 
Yea it’s one area I don’t agree with anyone on is the price point. It’s not even comparing to last years model, the air at $999 was in 2020. It’s 2022, inflation is real as well, is what it is.

Even if you take out the major inflation, its a completely redesigned machine. Thinner, lighter, Faster cpu, faster gpu, ddr5 ram, bigger and brighter screen, better battery life etc… People are just finding reasons to complain at this point.
Well, US folks are paying "only" 200$ more, while some of us in Europe have to fork out 400€ more.
 
My favorite physical design was the 12" MacBook no question. If they made that again just as it was, but with an apple M processor, I would absolutely get one.

The 11" MBA was nice and portable, but terrible screen, and the aspect ratio was not good.
I owned several 11” MBAs and they were great. Wish Apple took the opportunity with the M1 to build an even smaller machine.

I agree the 11” screen was bad, but moving between offices (where you could plug into a larger screen) it was almost like Air in the bag. There’s value in that.

Would love to see the next generation of Ultraportable.
 
In normal use I would never have 30 tabs open, and every program on the computer running, but it handled the load just fine.

Hi OP, you meant all default apps in m2 air ? I am also planning to order base m2 air (8gb or 16gb ram) soon but getting too much advice to go for 1699 m1 14 pro better 'deal' at bestbuy instead. I dont need the power of m1 14 pro at all..

Can you please describe how has the general performance been for base m2 air with you?
 
In Canada the base model is $1500. Is what it is
I think we’ve seen this before. Back when the now M1 MacBook Air chassis design was introduced it was about $200 more then the old MacBook Air which continued to be offered for awhile. Eventually the old device was discontinued and the then new Air was reduced in price to that of the previous model. It became the new entry level device.

I suspect we might see something similar happen again. Eventually the current M1 Air will be dropped and the M2 Air could become the new entry point with a consequent drop in price.

Things evolve, but I do lament the eventual passing of the distinctive wedge shaped design. It was unique in a sea of me-too designs.
 
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"Keyboard is noticeably softer than it was when new (I type a lot), but that is to be expected"​

Wondered what people thought about that. Struck me as a red flag.

Have any of you ever found that the feel of the keyboards of your Mac changed over time? (Setting aside the butterfly keyboard failing.). And did so in as little as two weeks?

None of the keyboards on the many Mac notebooks I've owned -- and done touch typing on -- changed over time.

Or, was this a reference to getting used to the feel, not an actual physical change in the keyboard?

Just curious... Are others with M2 MBAs also finding a break-in period on the keyboards? If so, a quick test at an Apple Store would be misleading.
 
"Keyboard is noticeably softer than it was when new (I type a lot), but that is to be expected"​

Wondered what people thought about that. Struck me as a red flag.

Have any of you ever found that the feel of the keyboards of your Mac changed over time? (Setting aside the butterfly keyboard failing.). And did so in as little as two weeks?

None of the keyboards on the many Mac notebooks I've owned -- and done touch typing on -- changed over time.

Or, was this a reference to getting used to the feel, not an actual physical change in the keyboard?

Just curious... Are others with M2 MBAs also finding a break-in period on the keyboards? If so, a quick test at an Apple Store would be misleading.
i know the butterfly keyboard got a lot of hate, but i used one for six years (on my 2016 12" macbook) and loved it...
 
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