and in fact, people did:
https://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/01/20030106205306.shtml (day before the 17" PowerBook was announced)
BTW, Thinksecret is now reporting the same
https://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/11/20031117160727.shtml
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20 inch iMac... Soon?
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and in fact, people did:
https://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/01/20030106205306.shtml (day before the 17" PowerBook was announced)
BTW, Thinksecret is now reporting the same
https://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/11/20031117160727.shtml
arn
I'm wondering if perhaps there will be a dual processor iMac? With the unlikelyhood of a G5 iMac in the next 6 months (it would need to filter down through the Xserve and PowerBooks lines first), a DP iMac could bridge the performance gap, and do so with less expensive IBM 750FX chips... a DP 700 is faster than a single 1.4...
And that's confirmation enough for me. The dual 1.8 G5 PowerMac part of the story is interesting too.
Any guess on the prices?
20" iMac: Sheesh, I had no idea the high end iMac was already going for $2450! Can a consumer device go any higher in price? I think the other iMacs will get price cuts and the new high end will run for $2600 or $2700. But damn that's expensive.
1.8 Dual G5: $2700 or $2800.
It would be nice to know what the sales numbers are on the lineup and in particular the iMac.
Apple needs a strong home-based computer to offer joe consumer. For joe consumer, the powermac is too big and too expensive, the power/i books are perceived as 'road machines', and the eMac is an anachronism that looks like it belongs in the '60s. That leaves the iMac which, although dashing w/a great personality, looks underpowered and expensive compared to a Dell. (Please, no price comparative ranting here--you can get a Dell/w monitor starting $399).
For the iMac to be a contender, therefore, it needs <at least> G5 bragging rights and a larger <higher quality> monitor. (As nice as the iMac's screen adjustability is, if it had better specs including viewing angle, you wouldn't need to adjust it that much).
Now, if Apple had a 20" G5 iMac available a few weeks ago, I would have snapped that up instead of the PB I'm using now.
Apple needs a strong home-based computer to offer joe consumer. For joe consumer, the powermac is too big and too expensive, the power/i books are perceived as 'road machines', and the eMac is an anachronism that looks like it belongs in the '60s. That leaves the iMac which, although dashing w/a great personality, looks underpowered and expensive compared to a Dell. (Please, no price comparative ranting here--you can get a Dell/w monitor starting $399).
For the iMac to be a contender, therefore, it needs <at least> G5 bragging rights and a larger <higher quality> monitor. (As nice as the iMac's screen adjustability is, if it had better specs including viewing angle, you wouldn't need to adjust it that much).
Now, if Apple had a 20" G5 iMac available a few weeks ago, I would have snapped that up instead of the PB I'm using now.
I dont see how they are going to price this thing. Like another user posted, the high end is alread right at 2,500 bucks. They cant charge anymore for the iMac, hell the dual G5's are "only" 2,999.
Well, "consumer" is just a rough category. These things are also showing up in businesses and places like university labs. There are lots of "professional" uses for Macs where a small footprint is more important than having PCI slots or a bleeding edge processor (not everyone is producing multimedia).
slap a g5 in a imac and give it a agp slot and pci slot and wam a new market, now where the heck has apple been the last couple of years? oh yeah farting around with moto stagnation.
Sorry, the current iMac design cannot support a G5 chip. Why do you think there are 6 fans in the new G5 Powermac.... geeezz.
However, the current 17" iMac screen/bezel is 21 1/2 inches on the diagonal. There's a lot of real estate around the screen so it shouldn't be too top heavy if the bezel is slimmed down for a 20" screen. We'll see.
However, the current 17" iMac screen/bezel is 21 1/2 inches on the diagonal. There's a lot of real estate around the screen so it shouldn't be too top heavy if the bezel is slimmed down for a 20" screen. We'll see.
smoke and mirrors plus they needed a silent machine after the wind tunnel mdd, all they have to do is have a bunch of holes and a silent fan, give me a new pcix whatever slot, 4x or 8 agp slot a new g5 1.8 or 2.0 and a 9800 and wham you have a sale and a mac gaming machine. they know they have moto stagnation.
a little birdy who works for an apple store told me that 20" imacs and dual 1.8GHz G5s arrived today... the UPS guy actually brought them in through the front of the store too -- and the boxes were clearly marked with their contents. i guess they're not being too secretive about this one...
there is always cast iron.
change the base to cast iron and your tipping problems go away. Cast iron is inexpensive and very easy to machine, just look at barbell plates. The biggest expense would be a paint job to make apple happy.
After updating to a 17 inch screen a few months ago a 20" screen has become a coveted item. Frankly I'm running the same resolution on the 17" that I did on the old 15 inch what an improvement.
The problem with a 20" IMac is not the screen its the processor. Apple needs to get on the 970 wagon fast or the IMac will quickly be eclipsed by the rest of their line. So while I would love a 20 incher, it is but a dream until it is backed up with a better performing processor.
Dave
change the base to cast iron and your tipping problems go away. Cast iron is inexpensive and very easy to machine, just look at barbell plates. The biggest expense would be a paint job to make apple happy.
After updating to a 17 inch screen a few months ago a 20" screen has become a coveted item. Frankly I'm running the same resolution on the 17" that I did on the old 15 inch what an improvement.
The problem with a 20" IMac is not the screen its the processor. Apple needs to get on the 970 wagon fast or the IMac will quickly be eclipsed by the rest of their line. So while I would love a 20 incher, it is but a dream until it is backed up with a better performing processor.
Dave
Yeah. I kind of get the impression that they're trying to distract from the lack of a 970 in the iMac. Bribing us with candy, so to speak, when what we really need is some good protein.
Re: 20" iMac
Now there is an idea.
A 20" Imac, with a build in TV tuner. I could set it up in my livingroom, to replace, my DVDplayer and my TV... Use the bluetooth kbrd and mouse, and do whatever i like (computerwise ofcourse) in the livingroom.
(and maybe, maybe even watch an incidental downloaded movie)
I'd save up for that....
Cuckoo
Now there is an idea.
A 20" Imac, with a build in TV tuner. I could set it up in my livingroom, to replace, my DVDplayer and my TV... Use the bluetooth kbrd and mouse, and do whatever i like (computerwise ofcourse) in the livingroom.
(and maybe, maybe even watch an incidental downloaded movie)
I'd save up for that....
Cuckoo
the question is will it have a g5? if not then its not a big deal,what imac needs is a faster cpu not bigger screen
Deep inside I somehow feel the same, but I find it funny that everybody is saying the eMac doesn't look that great, and then complains that the iMac is so much more expensive that these wonderfully designed Dells at $399.
BTW, Applestores are down everywhere.
