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20% of Apple iPhone Customers Switched from Android, 7% of Samsung Buyers Switched from iOS
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I bought my sister an S4 (She didn't want an iPhone) and I have an iPhone 5. Anyone who is buying an S4 isn't doing it because it is cheaper than an iPhone. It isn't. This is absolute nonsense.
It's something Apple zealots try to preach - that Android phones are cheaper and therefore inferior.
In reality, a Galaxy S4 or a HTC One will set you back about the same (ballpark) as an iPhone (at least, they do here in Australi), and flagships make up the large majority of these manufacturer's sales (S3, S4), while their feature phones/low end handsets are a very small minority.
Of course cheaper isn't referring to the flagship Galaxy S3/S4/Note devices. Samsung makes a number of Android phones that are carrier branded, carrier specific or sold by the cheap prepaid carriers for like $200 or less no contract. That's what people are talking about with the "cheap" Samsung/Android phones.
I strongly suspect, many of those are idle threats, but if they do, power to them!
Well this is good news, but I do actually feel kinda disappointed since apple will make a low end phone. Apple is changing all his values and trading it for market share, just for selling a low end phone, even tho there is such thing now, it is call iphone 4, which it has a great quality... so right now Steve Jobs is really piss off looking at his company signing his own for sale sign...
Lower priced phone does not (and in this case, definitely will not) mean low-end phone.
Don't be so pessimistic; Apple is not going to hell in a handbasket, yet. They're seizing a fantastic opportunity to increase market penetration --with it's incumbent iOS ecosystem penetration-- without sacrificing quality.
Yes. This is yet another reason why a slightly more competitively priced new-model iPhone is needed. When I was on the market to replace my iPhone 4, I was shocked to find that a new iPhone 4 cost more off-contract than a 16GB Nexus 4. Considering the processing power of both (which is necessary, I'm afraid), it becomes a clear decision. I've been so frustrated at Apple's decision to simply continue selling archaic models for 'cheap' as an alternative to offering decent - albeit not the best - hardware at a lower cost. For instance, the Nexus does not compare to the HTC One or S4 in terms of overall quality (camera, lack of 4G). Some sacrifices were made to minimise the cost to the end user, but the result is a really fast operating system that has ample features and at half the price of the iPhone 5. I would have been happy paying £100 more for an iPhone, but £300, no. It's a bit of an insult to expect me to pay more for a phone with an 800Mhz (or 600Mhz?) processor (iPhone 4 - please correct me on detail) than the Nexus. Part of the reason I was in the market for a new phone was because of how slowly the OS was operating on the iPhone 4 and because of a broken power button (fairly common, it seems). Yet there was no offering in my price range for an off-contract phone that Apple could satisfy. And when one is willing to spend £350-£400 on a phone, that seems like a bit of lost opportunity in my eyes.
Let's not choose random numbers like android has 80% of the market share. You cannot make a point by randomly choosing numbers and further trying to complicate it with more random numbers.
Also, the interesting thing is the sample for this is stupid. It's based on 500 people. That's like having a sample of 2 people. One chose Samsung, the other chose apple and then post and say there is 50% that choose apple and 50% choose samsung.
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How come I'm never surveyed for these things? Oh yeah, because they only asked 500 people
Exactly!!
Cheap smartphones have now totally replaced feature phones on even cheap contracts and most of these are Android.
Mac OS X still only has small market share because millions of Windows machine are dumped into offices to run Word and the company database. Mac OS X doesn't suffer from being a niche product. It wipes the floor with Windows.
Android always feels like using one of the better desktop Linux distros to me. At first glance laden with features but somehow not pleasing to use all day long compared to iOS.
Mac OS X still only has small market share because millions of Windows machine are dumped into offices to run Word and the company database. Mac OS X doesn't suffer from being a niche product. It wipes the floor with Windows.
Android always feels like using one of the better desktop Linux distros to me. At first glance laden with features but somehow not pleasing to use all day long compared to iOS.
A sample size of 500 is not terrible. Of course, you always want more, if you have the money to get more, but 500 will definitely tell you plenty. The margin of error is quite reasonable for a survey that size. There is clear statistical significance between 20% and 7%, or 33% and 11%.
I would guess that it is the demographic that is inteligent enough to realise that apple is over priced and only gives you access to a fraction of the potential of their products.
I guess I would have preferred if they had asked another 500 to 1000, but as long those 500 were picked correctly the margin of error would be below 5%, so I wouldn't call it bogus if that's the case.
I just know one thing doctors, lawyers and business people are buying
I do not know what the rest of the herd is doing. They are poor, dumb. I am sure many are (not all)
Spamdroids saysusers have ego. I say they are dumb. People are either jealous of success or they are scared to go near it
The irony in this post is incredible.
The Android zealots try to preach that openness is better too, which for a very few is good, but for the vast majority is not. No matter what phone you buy, you're stuck in that phone's ecosystem and can only do what the software and operating system for that phone allows you to do.
I can see your point here, but I'd say it feels slightly more like a Windows OS experience than Linux. When I think of Linux, I think of a lot of Linux applications that are meant to mimic applications found on Mac and Windows, but that seem to exist too much in the Linux bubble (if that makes any sense). The issue with Android is that added functionality will likely only happen if you download an app from the Play Store. These can be hit or miss and basic tasks often take a few more steps. For instance. If I want to drag something off my Nexus to my Mac, I could do it using the Android File Transfer utility, BUT that utility causes all USB devices to hang the trackpad upon being plugged in for about five seconds. Therefore, every time I want to transfer from Android to Mac, I have to reinstall/uninstall the program. There are ways around this without relying on AirDroid (which is an extremely slow transfer solution for large files), but they take extra steps like turning your phone into its own WiFi access point and then linking your Mac's wireless to that network to explore the phone's files.
It can be a real hassle sometimes, but the unintended effect can be as rewarding as it is cumbersome. For instance, I found a wonderful way to transfer files directly from my phone to my iPad without relying on a shared WiFi network, NFC, USB or Bluetooth. So, part of the joy and headache of Android is in the hunt/discovery of useful utilities. I haven't quite made up my mind which environment I prefer, but I would say the experience is more like long-term usage of Windows and long-term usage of Mac OS. iOS is much more locked down than Android and can be frustrating on those grounds if, for instance, I want to navigate the file system or use an application other than those recommended to open/edit a file. That said, like Windows, Android can feel a bit clinical to operate in after a while and the green tint to most Android phones can be unbearable. I have an overlay that increases the blue hue slightly so I don't feel like I'm going to vomit. Apple certainly got that right.
Not new. Always interesting to see Apple to snatch a lot more users from Android though. More if it wasn't for the ridiculous prices in Europe.
It's funny that people always compare this way, even though the S3 was released closer to the iPhone 5 and the next iPhone will be released closer to the S4.
Except the statistics were for Samsung, not Android as a whole. (And I suspect US only, even though the article does not say that.)
That's just a mis-characterization of the argument.
And you just made that part up.
You'd be surprised how few people you need to have reasonably accurate results as long as your respondents are a sufficiently random sample of the larger population.
Exactly.
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Next time you're negotiating a loan, make sure you mention this to your banker!
Strangely, looking at chart 1, More Android users stay with android than ios users stay with ios.
Its close though, but looks like android is retaining more users.
Its close though, but looks like android is retaining more users.
Sloppy reporting. This is a survey limited to the US market. Let's be clear. Apple is doing great in the US market where the cost of the phone is hidden in your data fees and they get twice the subsidy of their competitors. Apple is struggling in the World market where typically the customers has to purchase the phone separately, and competitor's phones are much more affordable.