2007 Harpertown Stoakley-Seaburg Motherboard With New Graphics Cards 8-Core Mac Pro

[ziwi]

iPhone out for 2 months and gets a $200 price drop on cheaper components...

MacPro out for 13 months and price stays the same even though components are now cheaper...

Trying to figure out the Apple business model...

Priceless

Apple is truely a gadget company now, not a computer one

 

[Umbongo]

iPhone out for 2 months and gets a $200 price drop on cheaper components...

MacPro out for 13 months and price stays the same even though components are now cheaper...

Trying to figure out the Apple business model...

Priceless

Apple is truely a gadget company now, not a computer one

It's a completely different situation.

 

[Tracer]

As much as I hate to admit it.

iPod > Anything Else Mac Sells.

Get's a little frustrating when your favorite product is put on the back burner.

Tracer

 

[Alpinism]

Feeling better now

at least we all felt better now, that new $399 16 gig iTouch is a bigger rip off than the current Mac Pro

ROFL

 

[ziwi]

It's a completely different situation.

Why - because it is a phone?

Are you suggesting that the component cost of the Mac Pro is the same today as it was on August 6th, 2006? Or are you suggesting that Apple was taking a hit on the Pro's they sold last year and only after July of this year were they making a profit?

Every computer maker reduces the cost of a machine or replaces it when new or cheaper components come out.

I want to buy one, but it is not a value to me now when I know what I know.
If they reduced the price- I get one - upgrade components - I get one, but I just can not justify spending the 2007 dollars on 2006 product.

 

[Umbongo]

Why - because it is a phone?

In short yes. More competative market, by a huge amount. Different audience, different product in someone's life. Purely a luxury item.

Are you suggesting that the component cost of the Mac Pro is the same today as it was on August 6th, 2006? Or are you suggesting that Apple was taking a hit on the Pro's they sold last year and only after July of this year were they making a profit?

I'm not suggesting either. Apple will have been making a profit on the MP hardware since launch and I would find it hard to believe that they were unable to negotiate drops on certain components over it's life cycle.

Every computer maker reduces the cost of a machine or replaces it when new or cheaper components come out.

Dell, HP and IBM's Xeon workstations have barely changed in options or pricing since they were released (before the MP if i rememeber right) aside from the addition of Quad core processors and options of newer FX 4600 GPUs. Workstations don't follow the same trends as desktops which I think most of us on here are guilty of using to predict or expect from the MP, myself included.

I want to buy one, but it is not a value to me now when I know what I know.
If they reduced the price- I get one - upgrade components - I get one, but I just can not justify spending the 2007 dollars on 2006 product.

I don't blame you, I feel bad for anyone who is forced to due to needing a Mac Pro now. I'm very aware that it's not even so much about having the power the new machines will bring, but more on the value for money for most people waiting on here. Right now though Apple offer the cheapest 8 core 3GHz and Quad core 2.66GHz dual processor workstations as far as I know. Certainly from the big vendors. It may be older technology, but that is just the way it is.

 

[tristan]

There are no Apple computer or software stories on the Macrumors home page now - there hasn't been a computer or software story in the last 30 articles...

Yeah, my friend is a Pro waiter and thought that a new one might be released today at the Apple media event. The poor, deluded fool didn't realize that an updated Pro is no longer worth a media event, and could actually be delayed so as not to be a distraction. Instead, Apple would release some $900 gadget that lets me watch YouTubers set their farts on fire while I'm waiting for my weekly spray tan.

 

[suneohair]

it is coming guys... just a question of when.

 

[damado]

I'm betting the new mac pro will launch with leopard next month.

 

[G4DP]

You have to laugh.

Or you'll end up crying and realising that Apple doesn't give a f**k about it's high end pro users anymore. The MacBookPro has been updated sure, but some of us want to do more than look good. Granted the MacBookPro is one beast of a laptop but it still isn't anything near a true workstation replacement.

I am really getting to the end of my teather. I'm wanting to start working as a freelance cartographer/web designer, with a MacPro for its expandability, but at this rate, i'll bite the bullet and get a top end iMac.

I might be wrong, but wasn't this supposed to be the year of the Mac. Well Steve, I say b******s. I guess customer loyalty is truely dead. I recall Steve Jobs saying something about remembering those people who stayed with the company when things were looking pretty grim.

I guess Apple doesn't need us anymore, all the iPod and iPhone lovers will keep Apple going for a while.

Rant over.

 

[darthraige]

Well, now that this iCrap (iMac & iPod) is over. Apple can now focus on the MacPro and Leopard. If any other bull comes out other than the MacPro, ... seriously.......

 

[Nugget]

Next stop? iPhone Hi-Fi and socks for your iMac!

 

[Pressure]

I might be wrong, but wasn't this supposed to be the year of the Mac. Well Steve, I say b******s.

I think you should wait with your judgment until the year is over then.

 

[Topper]

Well, now that this iCrap (iMac & iPod) is over. Apple can now focus on the MacPro and Leopard. If any other bull comes out other than the MacPro, ... seriously.......

You are right.
Everything else has had it's day; MacBook, MacBook Pro, iMac, iPod, iPhone, Mac Mini.
Leopard is next and hopefully the Mac Pro will be right behind.

 

[darthraige]

You are right.
Everything else has had it's day; MacBook, MacBook Pro, iMac, iPod, iPhone, Mac Mini.
Leopard is next and hopefully the Mac Pro will be right behind.

Seriously, everything has been updated at this point. We've heard enough about Leopard. Don't care for another event with that. And if there was an event, MacPro would lead it off showing off all the power with Leopard. Paris Expo, will probably just introduce the stupid iPhone for the other countries. But it would be amazing for a MacPro to debut, that way Apple forces us to buy Leopard when it comes out in October, rather than getting it for free on the system.

 

[ZachPruckowski]

There are no Apple computer or software stories on the Macrumors home page now - there hasn't been a computer or software story in the last 30 articles...

While I agree with you that iPods and the iPhone are getting a lot of press, to be fair to Macrumors, this may be a result of the timing. Everyone knows that iPods get refreshed in September or October, while we're not expecting anything software-wise for another week or two in the form of Leopard RC1 (actually, probably the only Leopard RC) and/or Leopard Gold. Hardware-wise, we know we're not getting a new Macbook until late September, or more likely October (based on the usual iBook/Macbook update cycle), the iMac and Mac Mini were just updated, there's nothing to update the MBP with, and we're not expecting a Mac Pro until November at least.

In short, the dearth of Mac stories is explainable by the timing.

 

[tristan]

In short, the dearth of Mac stories is explainable by the timing.

I don't think its really explainable at all. Late year in August the entire desktop line was updated: Mac Pros, iMac, Mac Mini. This year the iMac and Mac Mini are updated in August, but the Mac Pro hasn't been touched for months.

 

[Cupertino Time]

Chillax

Or you'll end up crying and realising that Apple doesn't give a f**k about it's high end pro users anymore. The MacBookPro has been updated sure, but some of us want to do more than look good. Granted the MacBookPro is one beast of a laptop but it still isn't anything near a true workstation replacement.

I am really getting to the end of my teather. I'm wanting to start working as a freelance cartographer/web designer, with a MacPro for its expandability, but at this rate, i'll bite the bullet and get a top end iMac.

I might be wrong, but wasn't this supposed to be the year of the Mac. Well Steve, I say b******s. I guess customer loyalty is truely dead. I recall Steve Jobs saying something about remembering those people who stayed with the company when things were looking pretty grim.

I guess Apple doesn't need us anymore, all the iPod and iPhone lovers will keep Apple going for a while.

Rant over.

OK, take a deep breath...

I too have been waiting a LONG time for the new Mac Pro, but I do not think apple is going to drop the ball on this one. There have been no substantial intel updates since August 2006 when the Pro first came out. The 65nm Quad Core chips are a boost in a TINY fraction of applications out there. Penryn with SSE4 is where it's at. The new Pros will be 8 core standard at around 2.8ghz, and the price will stay at $2500.

There's also potential for 1600mhz FSB and PCIe 2.0 - and of course Leopard is your installed OS. Who would want to miss out on that?

The only pitfall I see is if DDR3 becomes mandatory. I'll still get one, but have to sit out on RAM for a year until prices become reasonable. Other than that, all is golden.

 

[Wild-Bill]

Saw this in a thread over at MacNN.

Enjoy

Apple Unveils Long Awaited Upgrade To Mac Pro

SAN FRANCISCO—September 5, 2007—In order to spur criticism that their Mac Pro is becoming quite long in the tooth, Apple® today unveiled the new branding of the Mac Pro. Following suit with their ever popular iPod image, the Mac Pro, from this day forward will be known as the "Mac Pro Classic."

"The feelings of nostalgia that you'll get using a 2-year-old video card and year-old processor, while paying 2006 prices is unparalleled! So much so, that a name change to the 'Mac Pro Classic' has been applauded by industry insiders," said Apple's CEO The Real Steve. "Though some may not be experiencing that 'loving feeling' which can be found using antiquated hardware," he continued, "they will indeed appreciate our generous upgrade of standard hard drive capacity from early 2006's 250GB standard to the 8-month-old standard of 300GB."

To further the sentimentality of the new (classic) line of professional Macs, Apple is reintroducing the ADC connector standard on all MPC (Mac Pro Classic) video cards. For those who do not have an ADC monitor, Apple is also reintroducing in limited release, the ADC to DVI converter at a groundbreaking price point of only $499.00.

The new Mac Pro Classics will be shipping within 6 to 8 weeks.

 

[Pressure]

The only pitfall I see is if DDR3 becomes mandatory. I'll still get one, but have to sit out on RAM for a year until prices become reasonable. Other than that, all is golden.

The Xeon stays on using FB-DIMM but the new model will come with FB-DIMM DDR2-800 instead of the current FB-DIMM DDR2-667.

There will be a low-end chipset named San Clemente that can take ordinary DDR2 ram but I doubt this is the way Apple are going with their workstations.

 

[Topper]

Problem in November?

I think we have a problem coming up in November...
If the new Mac Pros come out in November...
If the new Mac Pros have powerful bto video cards...
What will we have to complain about?

 

[suneohair]

Nothing. We will use them and be happy

 

[Nugget]

Then the circle will complete and we'll all start posting manifestos about how we refuse to upgrade our MacBook Pros until Apple puts LED backlighting in the 15" and how the TV is a ripoff because it doesn't support 5.1 channel sound.

 

[darthraige]

I just want to start seeing rumors float around in the next 2 weeks on whether or not this is gonna happen. Getting very frustrated.

 

[bigbird]

I just want to start seeing rumors float around in the next 2 weeks on whether or not this is gonna happen. Getting very frustrated.

You, me and everyone else posting on this thread. I almost pulled the trigger on an unopened 2.66 MP 2GB RAM, 1900XT, extra 750 GB HD and Applecare on eBay for $2499. I figured the Apple RAM is overpriced, the 1900XT is older technology and the 750GB HD from Apple is insanely overpriced. I can spend the same $2499 (approx) on the next MP and have a state of the art 2008 spec machine rather than a state of the art 2006 spec machine.