I wonder how the sales are going with the MacPro right now. Apple knows the machine is out of date. One can only hope for it to arrive with Leopard.
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Apple not using the latest 9800 Nvidia GPUs (likely they won't), Apple's processor options being more expensive than you could buy yourself if you could get Intel's OEM pricing (which you won't be able to), Apple's expensive RAM and hard drive options (can buy elsewhere anyway), not having 500GB hard drives as standard (which will probably the best $ to GB ratio around that time), no bluray/HD-DVD, Apple daring to make a profit on it. If people want to find fault they will
Just for a quck bit of fun, I configured a Dell Precision 690 with Mac Pro Spec's
With 2.66GHZ Stock Specs (Configured with 1,000Watt Power Supply and XP)
Cost was
$3,601 (Difference was 2GB RAM, and NVS 285 Graphics)
8-Cores @ 3.0GHZ
Cost was
$5,461 (Difference was 2GB RAM, and NVS 285 Graphics)
Is the Mac Pro that much more a deal?
With 2.66GHZ Stock Specs (Configured with 1,000Watt Power Supply and XP)
Cost was
$3,601 (Difference was 2GB RAM, and NVS 285 Graphics)
8-Cores @ 3.0GHZ
Cost was
$5,461 (Difference was 2GB RAM, and NVS 285 Graphics)
Is the Mac Pro that much more a deal?
Just throwing this out there... When a MacPro update does arrive, would there be a bigger HD option like a 320gb as standard? Or do you think Apple would just include 2x250gigs? That way we could run mac on one and windows on the other instead of partitioning.
How about this scenario...
Apple releases the new Mac Pro in November and they are all Octo-core...then in January they finally release a 'desktop' Mac running a Quadcore and using descktop components...
Would anyone be pissed that they bought the new Mac Pro versus the Mac Desktop?
Apple releases the new Mac Pro in November and they are all Octo-core...then in January they finally release a 'desktop' Mac running a Quadcore and using descktop components...
Would anyone be pissed that they bought the new Mac Pro versus the Mac Desktop?
Desktop all the way. Mac Pro is over kill cept for a very niche user. Unfortunately, all the other macs are sub par performers except for grand ma level usage (ok, maybe the kids too...and the wife).
Would take an 8-core over anything at this point. Need it for hardcore rendering and encoding. So has anyone seen this yet? What Jobs said...
... even though we are making the right decision to lower the price of iPhone, and even though the technology road is bumpy, we need to do a better job taking care of our early iPhone customers as we aggressively go after new ones with a lower price. Our early customers trusted us, and we must live up to that trust with our actions in moments like these.
Does this mean he would do the same with MacPro users that buy now if a new one comes out in a month? Give back money for technology that is old? lol
Could be, they are supposed to be far superior in OpenGL performance than the NVIDIA counterparts but we will know soon enough
I believe the top end is the 2600 not the 2900 in the iMacs. But yeah:
http://barefeats.com/imacal.html
*face palm*
http://techreport.com/discussions.x/12967
R600 = 2900
R630 = 2600
The 256-bit interface stands out.
hehe I meant the top end offered in the imacs.
Where the two can be compared on similar platforms in osx. I really hope apple moves to Nvidia in the Mac Pro....the ATI's are teh suck this round.I agree, but I it's too expensive for a base card. It'll probably be some midrange sub $100 consumer card no doubt.
The HD 2900 Pro would compete quite well against the 8600 GTS and 8800 GTS.hehe I meant the top end offered in the imacs.
The iMac uses the Mobilty HD 2600XT as it it.
haven't the 2900 series cards been getting smoked pretty badly by the 8800 series?
Yes, you are correct.
But I'm not proud, I'll take the HD2900 XT. I'd prefer an 8800GTX or 8800 Ultra.
My guess is the HD2900 XT will be the high-end bto consumer card in the next Mac Pro.
The HD 2900 XT can hold it's own against the 8800 GTS but the GTX/Ultra models are another story.
The HD 2900 Pro would compete in the current gap filled by the the 7900 GS/7950 GT and X1950 Pro/XT.
Apple need to offer the 8800GTS (640 meg) minimum as the Mac Pro's midrange card. The HD 2900xt gets smoked by both the GTX (both 320 meg and 640 meg) and obviously the Ultra. I'm no CAD designer so I have no opinion on the high side FireGL vs. Quadro, and I will pretty much ignore the low end card. If the current 7300GT is any indication I am sure the low end card will remain "low-end".
Here's a quote from Steve's recent back-pedaling on the iPhone. I added some of my own "flair" to highlight our current situation.
Steve:
Seeing as how Steve buckled to "relentless pressure from angry iPhone users", I think we all need to turn up the heat on the Mac Pro feedback form and send a copy of it to Steve Jobs' e-mail address.
Click the link in my signature and once you are done providing your feedback to Apple, copy and paste your comments in a letter to Steve. I think he needs another wake-up call to remind him that his company's focus on the iPhone has caused casualties in both Mac Pro and Leopard development. Once he sees how many people are and have been waiting for an update and realizes all of those people are ready to drop $2500.00+ he may rightfully light a fire under the dev. team.
Click it! You know you want to.
Here's a quote from Steve's recent back-pedaling on the iPhone. I added some of my own "flair" to highlight our current situation.
Steve:
Seeing as how Steve buckled to "relentless pressure from angry iPhone users", I think we all need to turn up the heat on the Mac Pro feedback form and send a copy of it to Steve Jobs' e-mail address.
Click the link in my signature and once you are done providing your feedback to Apple, copy and paste your comments in a letter to Steve. I think he needs another wake-up call to remind him that his company's focus on the iPhone has caused casualties in both Mac Pro and Leopard development. Once he sees how many people are and have been waiting for an update and realizes all of those people are ready to drop $2500.00+ he may rightfully light a fire under the dev. team.
Click it! You know you want to.
You are thinking about the RV630. We are talking about the R630 chip, which basically is a R600 with half the memory interconnects (256Mbit instead of 512Mbit memory interface).
The entire range of the Radeon HD family should be really awesome in professional software. Rumours says that even the entry level V3600 (based on the RV630) does good against the Geforce 8800GTX chip...
Time will tell
Click it! You know you want to.
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Done. Thanks for the link!
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