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2007 Harpertown Stoakley-Seaburg Motherboard With New Graphics Cards 8-Core Mac Pro

Are You Waiting For A Stoakley-Seaburg and 2007 Graphics Cards 8-Core Mac Pro

  • No. I bought the FrankenMac

    Votes: 30 7.1%

  • Yes I Will Wait 'Til Apple Gets It Right

    Votes: 246 58.0%

  • Not sure. Waiting for benchmarks on the 4.4.07 model.

    Votes: 27 6.4%

  • I'll stick with 4 cores, thank you very much.

    Votes: 121 28.5%
  • Total voters
    424
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solvs said:
Why do you knock them for not going with the extra cored machines that were far more expensive for...
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As has been stated *many* times in this thread - there are workloads that would benefit more from 8 2.66 GHz CPUs than from 4 3.0 GHz CPUs.

Apple could have offered that option for 5 or 6 months, but didn't.

My last argument, however, is to show that the idea that Apple gets preferential treatment from Intel is really a myth, and that the brief time that Apple had faster quads was not as it first seems. I don't knock Apple for using the chips, but it is mistake to interpret that event as an Apple exclusive.

It looks like HP might be Intel's latest darling, did you notice that Intel vice-presidents participated in yesterday's announcement of Penryn workstations by HP?

http://www.echannelline.com/usa/story.cfm?item=22620

HP and Intel launch new quad core workstations


7 November, 2007
By Vanessa Ho

San Francisco -- At HP's Quad Core World Tour held in San Francisco, Hewlett-Packard and Intel introduced new workstations with quad core technology that is based on improving performance and efficiency for end users as well as being appropriate for the environment.
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"Before the end of 2007, we'll help enable even higher levels of productivity when the new 45nm Quad Core Intel Xeon processor 5400 series and Intel 5400 chipset-based platform deliver breakthrough performance to help improve the processing and visualizing of large amounts of complex data," said Tom Kilroy, vice president and general manager of the Digital Enterprise Group with Intel.
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Mac Pro II - Version a

Just wondering.. I'm going to upgrade too when it hits.. though is anyone worried about the bugs and such that come along with buying a new system when it hits the shelves? Especially with the significant hardware upgrades that it will include..

Also concerning Leopard.. a good thing is, by the time the new Mac Pro is out, they will have already ironed out many of the problems that arise with a new OS.
 
Octobot said:
Just wondering.. I'm going to upgrade too when it hits.. though is anyone worried about the bugs and such that come along with buying a new system when it hits the shelves? Especially with the significant hardware upgrades that it will include..

Also concerning Leopard.. a good thing is, by the time the new Mac Pro is out, they will have already ironed out many of the problems that arise with a new OS.
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I am not worried about bugs. The original Mac Pro didn't have any glaring issues. There is much less to mess up in a workhorse as they don't really try to breakthrough any design barriers.
 
suneohair said:
I am not worried about bugs. The original Mac Pro didn't have any glaring issues. There is much less to mess up in a workhorse as they don't really try to breakthrough any design barriers.
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Also, the new Intel components (Penryn CPU and Seaburg Northbridge - the ESB2 Southbridge is the same as today) have been available to vendors for many months, so there's been lots of testing. I have a pair of pre-production units for testing, and have had no issues.

The Intel-supplied components in the new MPs should be solid.
 
AidenShaw said:
Oh please, Lord Blackadder - pardon my presumption as a lowly commoner at seeming to question the thoughts of one of the lords of the realm. Methinks, however, that thou art beholden to one of the "myths of the fanbois" - and though I quiver in the shade of thy majesty, I must speak the truth unto thou greatness, however great the cost to my soul and family.

It seems, mi lord, that:
  1. The kingdom of Apple didn't have an exclusive on the chips of the Third Giga - several 2nd tier and white box vendors were also offering those sacred chips for sale at about the same time as the Lord God Jobs bequeathed the Octo-core onto the people
  2. Those who visited the dark lords of the grey market were able to lay their hands upon the fabled chips of the Third Giga, even without visiting the Lord Jobs in the Temple of Cupertino
  3. The lords of the north (HP) and south (Dell) and other realms were also offered the divine chips of the Third Giga - but those lords, since they had not built their forts to withstand the nuclear fires of the G5, decided to wait for the second coming of the Third Giga in the form of the faster cooler 120 watt holy "G0 stepping".

Please, Lord Blackadder, have mercy on my soul - I am a loyal serf of your realm, but I fear that you have supped too often from the chalice of Kool-Aid from the realm of Cupertino. I humbly submit to your judgment - I'm only hoping that truth will prevail in your realm.
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ha.
 
AidenShaw said:
Theatrical though doubtless correct assessment of Apple's CPU supply
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Alack-a-day, methinks thou hast worked thyself into an unseemly froth over but a small matter. I would fain distance myself from the name "fanboi", though I must allow that I myself am a partisan of Lord Steve and his merry men. I crave pardon if mine own feeble utterances in this thread offend one so near to infallibility on matters of these so-called "CPU roadmaps"; doubtless such utterances offend the ears to one in such an exalted position of knowledge. Ne'rtheless, seeing as a body must needs inhabit more than one thread in our forum look to thine own self, for as thou shear others to the quick at but small provocation thou mayest find thyself full shorn in turn. ;)

It seemeth that I misspoke, though through thy rebuttal thou dost reveal that Lord Steve was fain to include the new Xeons, and directly their being offered he proceeded to bring them to market with great dispatch, anticipating Dell and HP in his haste. I remember well our own dear crier here in MacRumors-town telling the tale, which gaveth me a vision that Lord Steve had begged for preference and had received it.

As an aside, Blackadder speaketh not in this manner, though his speech oft bringeth rare wit.
 
Resting Assured

AidenShaw said:
Also, the new Intel components (Penryn CPU and Seaburg Northbridge - the ESB2 Southbridge is the same as today) have been available to vendors for many months, so there's been lots of testing. I have a pair of pre-production units for testing, and have had no issues.

The Intel-supplied components in the new MPs should be solid.
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Thanks guys.. that's reassuring.
 
So I am thinking that we will not see anything next week. Every time Apple updates a product we hear some trickles of news from "sources" that it will be updated in a few days etc.

Well nothing last week and this weekend has me feeling like we are stuck with the current config for a few more weeks at least. :(
 
sdhollman said:
So I am thinking that we will not see anything next week. Every time Apple updates a product we hear some trickles of news from "sources" that it will be updated in a few days etc.

Well nothing last week and this weekend has me feeling like we are stuck with the current config for a few more weeks at least. :(
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Next week or this week? Since today is Sunday. lol ... Just remember its a long Holiday weekend. "Sources" are running slow. We will hear more tonight or tomorrow I'm sure.
 
I'm beginning to think that it might be January....

darthraige said:
Next week or this week? Since today is Sunday. lol ... Just remember its a long Holiday weekend. "Sources" are running slow. We will hear more tonight or tomorrow I'm sure.
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The long lead times quoted by HP and Lenovo for their Penryn systems makes me wonder if Apple will decide to wait for MWSF in January.

If they won't be able to ship right away, the Steve could decide to hold the announcement until Intel has ramped up production.

On the other hand, I doubt that Mac Pro sales are very good right now (since anyone who does any research is expecting an upgrade), so pre-announcing for January shipment might not have a bad effect.
 
Eidorian said:
I gave up and went MacBook.

I'm not at home right now on my Mac. :D
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The Macbook is looking good. I had the previous C2D, too slow for me. Heck this DP 500 feels faster than it did. Go figure.

Hopefully this Mac Pro hits soon so I can drop the cash I have been sitting on for months now.

Congrats on the Macbook. :cool::apple:
 
it's looking slimmer and slimmer on the new intels...and now my pc just died last night :eek: I have to get one this week! buying a refurb thur. if no news on wed/thur.

Does apple take products back within 30 days like bestbuy does?
 
adamzx3 said:
it's looking slimmer and slimmer on the new intels...
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I agree, it's not looking good and that's not good because I have patience issues.:mad:

But didn't I hear that Apple has some exclusivity contract with Intel which says they get chips before anyone else?
 
JPJones said:
I agree, it's not looking good and that's not good because I have patience issues.:mad:

But didn't I hear that Apple has some exclusivity contract with Intel which says they get chips before anyone else?
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"Mac maker Apple Inc. is awaiting the official nod from chip supplier Intel Corp. before announcing a brawny update to its Mac Pro workstations."

Let's not forget the above quote from Apple Insider. Maybe Intel has had the chips made for Apple and are on standby until Intel just announces them formally. This week will be interesting. We shouldn't start complaining until after Wednesday.
 
Interesting quote from macnn.com:

All of the new processors should be available through pre-built systems as early as tomorrow but no later than 45 days away, Intel explains.

No system builders are named as partners in the initial announcement but are expected to include Apple as well as companies that have made early announcements of Xeon 5200 and 5400 systems such as HP and Lenovo.

Link to story.
 
JPJones said:
Interesting quote from macnn.com:

All of the new processors should be available through pre-built systems as early as tomorrow but no later than 45 days away, Intel explains.

No system builders are named as partners in the initial announcement but are expected to include Apple as well as companies that have made early announcements of Xeon 5200 and 5400 systems such as HP and Lenovo.

Link to story.
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Yea, I still believe this update will happen this week.
 
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