2008 Macbook

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  1. cfs123 macrumors regular

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    Hi all,

    I was just given a 2008 Macbook, 4, 1: 2.4 GHz core 2 Duo, 2gb RAM, running 10.6.8.

    If I upgrade the RAM will I see a noticeable difference in performance? Computer is in good condition.

    Thanks!
     
  2. KALLT macrumors 601

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    Not necessarily, that would depend on your usage. 10.6 had lower memory requirements than newer versions of OS X and the last officially supported version for this model is Mac OS X Lion (which you would have to purchase). The biggest bottleneck is the hard-disk drive. You should consider replacing it with an SSD.
     
  3. cfs123 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Thanks. Just looked up how to do this and it seems pretty straight forward.
     
  4. russellelly macrumors regular

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    My last Mac was a 2008 Unibody - cracking machine. Boosting the RAM certainly did improve its performance in my experience. It shouldn't be too costly, so no harm in giving it a go.
     
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  6. elf69 macrumors 65816

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    that machine can run el cap with a hack on this forum.
    It has 64bit architecture but only using 32bit from factory.

    With ssd and the max 6GB ram it will fly.

    that is if you want to.

    I have a macbook pro 2,1 I will hack for el cap when it arrives.
    I played with older OSX versions but el cap I like alot so will try upgrade all my units to el cap if I can.
     
  7. Jimmy* macrumors newbie

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    8GB RAM + ssd + El Capitan = A very happy chappy
     
  8. pastrychef macrumors 601

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    Maxing out the RAM and getting an SSD will dramatically improve how your MacBook perform. With just 2GB and a traditional platter based hard drive, once your memory starts paging, it becomes torturous to use. Even with an SSD, you want to keep memory paging as low as possible, ideally at zero.
     
  9. amadaras macrumors newbie

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    Hello, everyone!
    I have an early-2008 white Macbook (4,1). I have 4gb ram, an SSD, Core 2 Duo processor and some low-end integrated graphics, but that doesn't matter. Core 2 Duo is a 64bit processor, I have 64 bit EFI, 64 bit kernel boot mode, but the kernel is 32bit. So the hardware should handle from at least OS X 10.9 until probably 10.11. But it doesn't, Apple doesn't provide support. I have x64 Ubuntu 16.10 running on another partition, without any problem. So first, what is the reason that Apple doesn't support this hardware, and second, how could I solve this trouble?

    (ps. I'm not sure if this goes here or here instead, sorry if I made a mistake.)

    Thanks
     
  10. pastrychef macrumors 601

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    The problem with that model is the X3100 graphics. There are no 64 bit Mac drivers for it. Some people were able to jury-rig OS X 10.8 on to it but graphic never performed properly and it's not something I would recommend.
     
  11. elf69 macrumors 65816

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    This model will run el capitan easy as I have a 2007 17" macbook running el capitan very well.
    I am also about to hack a macbook pro 2,2 to run el capitan.
     
  12. pastrychef macrumors 601

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    Apple never made a 17" MacBook in any year.
     
  13. elf69 macrumors 65816

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    it a pro of course.

    I know never made 17" macbook
     
  14. amadaras macrumors newbie

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    Thanks for everyone helped. I'll look at some 'os x on unsupported mac' forums for more information.
     
  15. jav6454 macrumors P6

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    Yes you will. The biggest update you can make thou is an SSD in there.

    Just as an FYI, I have one.
     
  16. cfs123 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Awesome. Which SSD did you get? Is it as easy to install as it looks on the videos I have tried to learn from?
     
  17. elf69 macrumors 65816

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    Yes quite easy to change.

    I personally bought an adata premium 240GB SSD.
    Had mid 500 read and write speeds.

    as long as high read and write should see HUGE speed gain.
    my 2009 2.16GHz core2duo now has about 10 second boot, helped with 8GB ram too
     
  18. jav6454 macrumors P6

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    Installation is very easy. I got a Samsung SSD, the 840 256GB.
     
  19. kiranmk2 macrumors 6502a

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    For older MacBooks the SSD choice isn't so important - they only support SATA1 or SATA2 speeds so all the speed increases over the past 4-5 years in SSDs is meaningless as the controller doesn't have the bandwidth to support it. From my late 2008 MB I upgraded first to 4 GB, then to an SSD (Samsung 830) and finally to 8 GB. Still showing it's age with some things but the desktop is still zippy.
     
  20. jav6454 macrumors P6

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    It does matter, SSD speeds are not to be interperted as how much Sequentialy it can read/write. That is the most meaningless benchmark in an SSD. Sure it's impressive, but the true beauty lies in the Random Read/Write. In that respect not many SSDs have broken SATA II speeds.

    Bear in mind the fastest SSDs can barely reach 90k IOPs @ 4k blocks. Meaning we are barely beyond 300 MB/s (at a expected 350 MB/s rate) transfer rate of SATA II.
     
  21. amadaras macrumors newbie

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    I installed Yosemite, but still didn't find a kext, that work. Do you have any sources? The graphic is really poor. At least I have ubuntu. So please help if you can!

    Thanks!
     
  22. pastrychef macrumors 601

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    I already told you, there are no 64 bit drivers for the X3100. The guy you are quoting installed El Capitan on MacBook Pros.
     
  23. elf69 macrumors 65816

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    I have seen a1181 models run el capitan.
    Yes some gpu are not supported past 10.7.

    If you ran the hack the hack site should have said that it is not supported.

    later a1181 models seem to run better as think has later hardware.
     
  24. Primejimbo macrumors 68040

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    I have one and put 8GB of RAM in it and a SSD, it flies. I like that old little thing.
     
  25. cfs123 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Hey all,

    I may be wrong on my MacBook gear. Is there a place I can go see what year/version I have? What I can tell you all is that it's a white MacBook, non unibody and it reads MacBook 4,1
     

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