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2010 Macbook Pros, what to add, what to remove?

I think the issue you are missing is that if a lot of people still want it then Apple should keep it. The react to this thread alone shows people still want ethernet. I understand that you feel like you don't need it.

Just look what happen when Apple forced it's users to go glossy only on the MBP. Apple had to finally add a matte option once again because of the demand. Just because you don't use it doesn't mean others don't.

I like the ethernet port and forcing people to only do things your way is a good way to lose customers if we are the majority. I don't like carrying around adapters which is why I didn't use the Express Card that much when Apple notebooks had them. One of the benefits of a notebook is the mobility and the easy get up and go ability. Having to carry around extra stuff kind defeats that benefit. This is the way I like to use my MBP and I respect you have different needs but your needs isn't the same as everyone else.
 
EndlessMac said:
I think the issue you are missing is that if a lot of people still want it then Apple should keep it. The react to this thread alone shows people still want ethernet. I understand that you feel like you don't need it.

Just look what happen when Apple forced it's users to go glossy only on the MBP. Apple had to finally add a matte option once again because of the demand. Just because you don't use it doesn't mean others don't.

I like the ethernet port and forcing people to only do things your way is a good way to lose customers if we are the majority. I don't like carrying around adapters which is why I didn't use the Express Card that much when Apple notebooks had them. One of the benefits of a notebook is the mobility and the easy get up and go ability. Having to carry around extra stuff kind defeats that benefit. This is the way I like to use my MBP and I respect you have different needs but your needs isn't the same as everyone else.
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Then having this conversation was worth while. Perhaps there is a way to having it both ways. Wasn't the Express card available on other 15 macbook pros in the past?
 
Bosman said:
Wasn't the Express card available on other 15 macbook pros in the past?
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Yes it was and it's still available on the 17". It sounds like you are more concerned about having an Express Card than trying to get rid of the ethernet port. If that is true then that's a different discussion. There are people who are unhappy about the lost of the Express Card slot.
 
How about

MBA rev A. I would like more USB or FW 800 in addition.

I have traveled quite a bit in the past two years and only needed the Ethernet dongle in one God forsaken place in the Nevada Desert.

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Bosman said:
Do we really need Ethernet ports anymore? That space could be used for better things couldn't it? If so what do you people out there want in place of it? I mean the Airport extremes free things up so much and the speed of wireless is sick. Couldn't we do something like a dongle that the air uses for those who really want that port? I mean how many Macbook Pro owners actually want to tether their machine to an Ethernet line anyway?
Some say get rid of the superdrive too, swap it for a killer vid card and or more battery. Maybe use the extra space for keeping things cooler thus using less power and extending battery life.
Are the mac airs really so diff than the pros, i mean to keep things cool and running properly is the CPU the wild card that allows the air to be so much thinner? Are there better technologies that allow the air to be much thinner than the macbook pros?
I wonder if it is possible for people to stick to the subject...there are many good ideas out there but seriously reading posts of people being accused of being fan boys or talking about totally unrelated topics in various threads frustrates me a bit but lets condense the really good ideas about adding or removing things and why to this thread and see what happens.;)
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EndlessMac said:
Yes it was and it's still available on the 17". It sounds like you are more concerned about having an Express Card than trying to get rid of the ethernet port. If that is true then that's a different discussion. There are people who are unhappy about the lost of the Express Card slot.
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Exactly and reason i will have a very hard upgrading to ANY new MBP without it. For people that need external horsepower running a e-sata drive is the only real way to go FW 800 is just not fast enough. I run a E-sata express card that gives me the speed I need to have temp. image files to grab from or work from. Apple is going to lose Photographers and Graphic design professionals if they keep making these boxes for consumers and not all of us want a 17 inch MBP to do it. Frankly I will never use a internal optical drive again. I ripped mine out and actually today i am installing my second Crucial SSD drive. I had Intel SSD and have already replaced them with Crucials.
What we really need is Quad Core laptops with at least 8gb of ram and room for more if we need to. They need to stop removing important parts and add flexibility in the systems. I could care less about battery life , obviously many do but stop taking ports away. If anything we could use more USB and 2 Firewire 800 or better and actually add a e-sata port built in.

Professional users still run Macs and not everyone wants a MacPro. I can't travel around the globe with it. I also can't shoot tethered with my camera on location without a MBP. Rant off
 
Guy Mancuso said:
Exactly and reason i will have a very hard upgrading to ANY new MBP without it. For people that need external horsepower running a e-sata drive is the only real way to go FW 800 is just not fast enough. I run a E-sata express card that gives me the speed I need to have temp. image files to grab from or work from. Apple is going to lose Photographers and Graphic design professionals if they keep making these boxes for consumers and not all of us want a 17 inch MBP to do it. Frankly I will never use a internal optical drive again. I ripped mine out and actually today i am installing my second Crucial SSD drive. I had Intel SSD and have already replaced them with Crucials.
What we really need is Quad Core laptops with at least 8gb of ram and room for more if we need to. They need to stop removing important parts and add flexibility in the systems. I could care less about battery life , obviously many do but stop taking ports away. If anything we could use more USB and 2 Firewire 800 or better and actually add a e-sata port built in.

Professional users still run Macs and not everyone wants a MacPro. I can't travel around the globe with it. I also can't shoot tethered with my camera on location without a MBP. Rant off
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So you dont care about batttery life, one of the most crucial things to a portable computer? Well in true dragons den fashion "Im out"

Seriously battery life is way important on a portable.. I dont want to be lugging a charger around with me everywhere.
 
It's the least of my issues. I know many care about it but speed and horsepower are much more important. I work a 40 mpx camera that produces 240mg files. I run a raw processing program that is dependent on cores and CPU, so obviously I need horsepower over anything else. Running hard core processing programs will burn a battery in no time anyway, so you are pretty much forced into AC operation. I know a balance must be struck between different users and totally understand that but let's also be realistic when are you not going to have power in a 7 hour span. Charger sorry you just have to man up on that one. It weighs what less than a pound. Also Apple can make several models as well on for more battery power and one for more intense users. They build them to order anyway why not make it with more options for certain things internally. Instead of the optical drive they could for example ad a second battery. Many ways to get around different users needs instead of building one breadbox for all.
 
The OP seems has no idea at need for an ethernet port.

I'm able to connect my macs/pcs using a gigabit switch that is much faster then wireless.

In traveling and in business there is frequently only an ethernet port available. Getting rid of such a port would be asinine for apple. Its used much more then the OP thinks. Just because he has little to no need doesn't make it obsolete. quite the contrary I see it being used here in my company, my traveling and home. I'm not alone either.
 
vendettabass said:
lose the optical drive - the footprint of this is larger than another 2.5" drive so let's have 2 HDD's and a little more battery please :).
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On the face of it, I agree, I'm concerned that at times I did need the optical drive. Buying another external component and lugging it around is not what I want to do either. I suspect if apple were to drop the optical drive they'd NOT replace it with another hard drive but make the case smaller, like the MBA.
 
maflynn said:
On the face of it, I agree, I'm concerned that at times I did need the optical drive. Buying another external component and lugging it around is not what I want to do either. I suspect if apple were to drop the optical drive they'd NOT replace it with another hard drive but make the case smaller, like the MBA.
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that'd be a shame :-(. Heck I'd settle for a 32GB 1.8" SSD + fatter battery, surely they could still slim it down a little after implementing those :-D
 
vendettabass said:
lose the optical drive - the footprint of this is larger than another 2.5" drive so let's have 2 HDD's and a little more battery please :).
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Not in this revision. Until Apple starts distributing all their software via a means other than optical disks, this won't happen. Can you imagine trying to download Logic Pro or FCS?
 
We are many, many years from having no ethernet port. It is as essential as the screen itself and will not (and should not) be going anywhere anytime soon.

If we want to remove ports, its firewire. Its far too small a market for Apple to cater too if they really need a new port for something. Beyond that I would personally like to see the SD card slot removed and have them add a Express Card slot. That is less likely to occur, its just a personal wish.

On top of that the biggest thing I would like to see is a better Video Card - 5670 minimum for the 15' model. I expect fullt switchable graphics via the HM55 chipset with the on chip graphics the default offering ~6.5 hours battery life.
 
I want a Blu-ray drive! I'm adding to my collection all the time and it would be nice if I was able to watch some of my movies while on travel insted of my old DVDs. But, I doubt that will ever happen.
 
Loosing the ethernet port would be a mistake.
I use my MBP hooked up thru gigabit ethernet at home, with 2TB network storage for time machine and other backup.
Moving several gb's over gigabit ethernet is really fast. If i'd have to move 20-30GB over wireless it would take ages, even the newest standards are at least only 10% of the speed you get over gigabit ethernet.

As for firewire, I already have two fw800 drives and two fw400 devices, I think Apple have to keep the fw port until there is a good replacement (light peak anyone?), since USB isn't even worth mentioning in terms of speed.

I still have the Santa Rosa MBP and when i use friends newer MBPs i realize how lackluster the connectivity is now! I love having both FW400, FW800, USB2 and ExpressCard :)
 
Bosman said:
I wonder if it is possible for people to stick to the subject...there are many good ideas out there but seriously reading posts of people being accused of being fan boys or talking about totally unrelated topics in various threads frustrates me a bit but lets condense the really good ideas about adding or removing things and why to this thread and see what happens.;)
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FAIL
 
I suspect we could implement software using sd cards and do without the disc drives. I know it is really cheap to manufacture discs and put software and movies on them but I'd pay $5 even $10 more to have a movie or a program on an sd card if it meant i could get rid of the disc drive. Maybe the air will get an sd port. Think of how much easier it would be to stock movies in an sd format and how much less it would cost to ship! The media form factor will get smaller and if sd cards were implemented Blue Ray may not be needed anymore. I am not trying to ruffle the feathers of those who own Blue Ray stuff but honestly do we really think using the same form factor as what we've used the last 20 years is a good idea anymore?
Personally as a photographer i don't have a use for an sd card port but if used for the above I embrace it wholeheartedly!
 
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