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2010 MBP 13 dates Vaio Z11 - some photo evidence :)
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Its funny how the Sony wants to look like an
And it's funny how a macbook looks like a toughbook for hipsters
Funny, DeskTop Replacement.
Sony makes cool stuff compact, like the purse size unit that I almost
had to have on tour, but in the end I passed.
I travel quite a bit, and one ride in the saddlebag would end it for most machines on our 3rd world highway system of ski jumps and 2 foot craters.
The Sony is just too fat butted, but nicely tried.
The screen is bright, but we don't know the settings of both.
The OS is handicapped, where Mac can do both easily.
I've tried this game so many times to not get a Mac, it's just not reality.
You can price match every feature, and you won't win. Its not possible.
The PC will always cost more to keep it alive, plus the on going therapy.
Your's and the machine.
The built in backup OS is a service joke.
There's no access to boot it if it needs it.
You going to carry ten cd's, or 4 dvd's around till they are not readable?
Where as one Mac OS disc fixes it on restart.
My first Mac laptop is over 5 now and still prime.
The MBP13 of 3 months is simply amazing.
Try to just get a PC with 800FW to watch 400 movies off external drive.
Your cost just surpassed the Mac, and it's 2x heavier and 2x thick.
Been there , done that with the Dell XPS, and it died last year.
\ Good Luck.
Sony makes cool stuff compact, like the purse size unit that I almost
had to have on tour, but in the end I passed.
I travel quite a bit, and one ride in the saddlebag would end it for most machines on our 3rd world highway system of ski jumps and 2 foot craters.
The Sony is just too fat butted, but nicely tried.
The screen is bright, but we don't know the settings of both.
The OS is handicapped, where Mac can do both easily.
I've tried this game so many times to not get a Mac, it's just not reality.
You can price match every feature, and you won't win. Its not possible.
The PC will always cost more to keep it alive, plus the on going therapy.
Your's and the machine.
The built in backup OS is a service joke.
There's no access to boot it if it needs it.
You going to carry ten cd's, or 4 dvd's around till they are not readable?
Where as one Mac OS disc fixes it on restart.
My first Mac laptop is over 5 now and still prime.
The MBP13 of 3 months is simply amazing.
Try to just get a PC with 800FW to watch 400 movies off external drive.
Your cost just surpassed the Mac, and it's 2x heavier and 2x thick.
Been there , done that with the Dell XPS, and it died last year.
\ Good Luck.
sfk - I have windows 7 installed in virtualbox on my machine as a play around environment, I've been suitably impressed enough to install it on my mums laptop.
But it inevitably still has a registry and so it will still inevitably slow down over time. You might not notice it right now, but a reformat and it will be speedier!
A not very often used DVD will more than last out the life of any machine, A Hard disk probably won't. It's still a sign of cutting corners not to bundle any, especially as the DVD's you burn yourself will generally have a shorter shelf life than the pressed ones you get with your macbook.
But it inevitably still has a registry and so it will still inevitably slow down over time. You might not notice it right now, but a reformat and it will be speedier!
A not very often used DVD will more than last out the life of any machine, A Hard disk probably won't. It's still a sign of cutting corners not to bundle any, especially as the DVD's you burn yourself will generally have a shorter shelf life than the pressed ones you get with your macbook.
Ugh. Don't get me started on Thinkpads. It's like their laptop designer died in the 90s and they never bothered to replace him.
I have a Dell XPS, it is still running, but I upgraded it to Windows 7. IT runs a lot smoother, though the Hard Drive does whine every once in awhile. Its under a 3 yr parts/labor at home warranty, pretty sure I will need it!
I recently bought a 13 in MBP. THough I was not happy about the C2D processor yet again, I felt that it would really suit my needs as I do a lot of word processing, browsing, etc.
I have only had it for about 4 days, but I was amazed at how quickly I could pick up the os. Mind you I am still learning different things about it such as features, and havent quite grasped the multigesture trackpad thing everyone talks about. I am running parallels with win 7 and my only complaint is that I still havent been able to get the drivers to install. I know that parallel tools have to be installed but when I try to install them nothing happens. COuld use some help on this...
Win7 is not to bad but there is something about pickig up that mbp that makes it a better user experience. I must say that my 256 ssd is blazing and quiet, and opens up office 2008/iwork in milliseconds. I looked at Sony;s products but the drawback to me was the pricetag and the horror stories I have heard from users.
I think my mbp will last at least 4 yrs maybe more? Perhaps that Sony will last but it will certainly have parts replaced and the battery life will deplete. Apple has the market on battery life there is no doubt.
I am amazed at being able to do all that I do on it, and not need to look for a plug in an hour or 2. Could the MBP be lighter? Sure, and maybe it will down the road, but the build quality is unbelievable for the MBP, I am glad I have switched!
Windows 7 is good, I run it via Fusion 3, but it won't make me switch back to PC...
I know Vaios are great machines, but I still prefer the reliability of my MBP. Horror stories are for both out there, but my user experience with Apple is just great.
I know Vaios are great machines, but I still prefer the reliability of my MBP. Horror stories are for both out there, but my user experience with Apple is just great.
Windows 7 is an amazing operating system. It works well, looks nice, and is very stable.
What about Apple's inability to change something as simple as the battery? Sure, the longer life is great, but they didn't necessarily need to make it non user-replaceable, they could have very well attached it to a door like the last batteries, but they did what they did to prevent you from going anywhere else but there to get a new battery.is that the Vaio Z uses a proprietary SSD which is just plain stupid. You have no option to install your own SSD, that's retarded, and they say Macs aren't customizable?
What about the mini display port that requires adapters to even use a simple screen?
Don't get me wrong, I love Apple, but to irk over a SSD is a useless argument against Apple's restrictions as well.
I absolutely LOVE the fact that on my desktop, I have a restore partition. I love that I can simply make my own restore DVD just in case my HDD goes belly up, BUT if I lose said DVDs, I don't have to call the company and pay and wait for a disk, if they're still supported, and I have also put the restore partition on a little flash drive. A blank DVD is extremely cheap, a flash drive of about 4GB is also pretty affordable. If my OS X DVDs are destroyed in an accident, I have to call Apple and may have to pay shipping.
The problem with it is that you're inciting rage that isn't necessary. You attack Windows 7 without any valid reasons. Look at the other side.
Listen, I love my MacBook, I use it every day, it is my main machine and I prefer it over my desktop, but Windows isn't the plague and Sony has much better hardware than, say, cheap HPs, yet HP can have some amazing notebooks like their envy line. Sony is a stylish company, and as such Apple even took their chiclet keyboard, and designed their notebooks around the simplistic theme Sony has been managing for the duration of their existence in the notebook market, and Windows 7 can be an amazing operating system if people would do simple things such as avoid porn sites and pirating shady software.
I cannot turn my backlit keyboard on in conditions that might be just slightly too bright. It just doesn't work. Drivers for Windows are a joke on my MacBook despite using the same hardware as everyone else.
I don't mind plastic bottoms. I like a little plastic on my notebooks, it doesn't dent as easily, is cheaper to repair for any reason, and isn't in my line of sight. Along with that it can be more sturdy and shock resistant than total metal and can improve signal strength with wi-fi depending on where that is placed and how much metal versus plastic exists.I hate the plastic on the bottom, it makes it look cheap and the lid is flimsy. Nice try Sony, but it's unfinished. Enjoy it though.
On most Windows systems with built in HDD recoveries, you can only burn one set. The option disappears once they've been done. I do phone support and most of the PCs we support are like this.
Yes there are disadvantages to both, however the amount of customers I have dealt with who ignored the pop ups to create recovery disks, then the HDD fails or they get a virus that corrupts the recovery partition. Then depending on the manufacturer, they have to shell out for new disks which cost from £30 - £60. At least a SL disk is only £25 and you can create a dmg for safety sake using disk utility. Personally I prefer physical media.
To the OP, the Sony looks pretty decent, still prefer the MBP though. Think the flat as opposed to slanted closed profile looks better, have never had an issue with the spacing of the keys typing wise on a MBP, as several others have already said nothing else atm comes close to the trackpad and the Sony just doesn't look as solid.
beauty lies in eyes of beholder, so yes good for you whatever is right for you
Well, I can only give MY opinion here right? I can't speak for others...just myself...
I use both systems MPB13 and Sony Vaio FW 290 ( along with mac mini hackintosh), Z11 is not mine it is my colleagues machine who was generous enought to share for photo comparison. My wife usesXPSM1330 for her work prupose, I've used Vaio FW290CTO, Dell Studio 15 and on all of those machines you can burn as many times recovery discs as you want. I personally think recovery disc issue is blown out of proportion, bigger issue would be HDMI and VGA ports. With every TV on market supporting HDMI port there is no point in not having one on system. Same thing can be said about VGA port which comes handy connecting to projectors. But those 2 things are not mainstream for users here unlike recovery discs
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Sony is using it for a while now, its not copy of Apple's design. Probably you could top this by saying Apple was the one which came out with idea of rectangle laptop everyone else is simply copying that design
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Yes if you want OSX then you dont have anything that replaces your existing desktop in 13" form factor. But the good thing is you will still be able to run Win 7 on OS X if you want but not vice-versa (due to Steve's ways of controlling things).
Fact 3 - Start using Windows 7 for more than month before coming out with opinions that are irrelevant.
Fact 4 - Try running OSX on anything that is non-Apple hardware and you will realize what is meaning of being compatible.
Sony is using it for a while now, its not copy of Apple's design. Probably you could top this by saying Apple was the one which came out with idea of rectangle laptop everyone else is simply copying that design
Anyone with a little sense of humor/irony/sarcasm would had understood that I was kidding.
To the OP, thanks again for the pics, they were great, but this thread has became a nonsense of vaio vs mac...
I agree with you my only purpose to post pictures was to show how closely this two products resembles and what are the differences. I never intended to have PC v/s MAC crap going on as it is meaningless debate which was basically something started by Apple for marketing purpose. Only thing is every fanboy (be it on either side of camp) need to understand that your product exists and evolves only because there is competition, there will not be innovation in Windows 7 without OSX and vice-versa. If Bill Gates didnot rescue Apple in past there would not be iPod and because there is iPhone in market we see Microsoft working on better version of Windows Mobile instead of crap they were shoving down users community for last 8 years. I only wish every tech company to compete fair and square because at the end it makes our life easier and helps us do what we want to do.
Thanks for the comparison, but I see one big glaring difference.
The Sony VAIO doesn't run Mac OS X legitimately.
If you're a user that has to run Mac OS X and do so on a laptop/notebook, the only way you can do that (legitimately) is with one of the MacBook Pro or MacBook lineup.
The Sony VAIO doesn't run Mac OS X legitimately.
If you're a user that has to run Mac OS X and do so on a laptop/notebook, the only way you can do that (legitimately) is with one of the MacBook Pro or MacBook lineup.