yes, huge difference in speed, my bootcamp installation time took half as long as on the 13" 2010 2.4ghz core 2 duo.
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2011 13" definitely louder than 2010 13"!
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yes, huge difference in speed, my bootcamp installation time took half as long as on the 13" 2010 2.4ghz core 2 duo.
I don't know why you sounded so offended, if you feel like like defending Apple, go nuts.
Here are the stats you want:
2010 13" while playing SC II never goes beyond 4500RPM. CPU sits around 65 degree celsius
2011 13" while playing SC II fan speed is around 5800RPM - 6200RPM, CPU sits around 90 degree celsius.
I've never heard a laptop this loud, ever!
When I said my 2010 ran better i meant specifically for games, I get a lot smoother experience.
For other tasks that are CPU dependent, obviously i7 would outperform core 2 duos.
I don't know who's at fault here, especially with Intel's sandy bridge, I would have thought heat would no longer be an issue in comparison to the first generation i7s. Also not to mention, the core i7 CPU in the 13" MBP is a dual core CPU, and not a quad core.
My friend has a first generation core i7 quad core laptop from Toshiba, with discrete a graphic card. In the same game tested, his laptop runs not even half as loud in comparison to mine.
IMO, having a laptop sounding a like a hairdryer in game and even video chat is unacceptable. I'm more and more leaning towards design flaws and production quality slips. I'm guessing my could be one of those MBP with overly generous thermal paste others have been talking about. The thing that gets me is I am actually embarrassed to use my $1600 computer to run even semi-intensive applications because the noise is so loud, everyone sitting close to me can hear it.
I get what you're saying. I've been on the phone with Apple Care today but they're useless. They can't help me and can't tell me whether this is considered normal for this 13" i7 model. We dont have an Apple Store in my country so I'm going to take it to the certified service provider tomorrow and ask them. Maybe I should compare it to other 13" i7 models while in that store to see if its ' normal' or if we just have one from a bad batch?
do you have a SDD in the 13in or a HDD. I am been readying alot that it might be the HDD making all the noise. Anyone else notice this.
It's still a 35W part, so they're getting more performance out of the CPU for the same heat dissipation, more or less. The 15" has the quad at 45W, but it's also got more to work with in regard to cooling.
I have an HDD. I'm thinking it's the HDD too. 2010 model didn't do this though, I think this shouldn't be happening
It's not the HDD, it's obviously the fan noise. You don't hear it under normal usage, only happens when the cpu is heating up.
I don't know how people can live with this noise, maybe I'm just too sensitive? haha
It's not the HDD, it's obviously the fan noise. You don't hear it under normal usage, only happens when the cpu is heating up.
I don't know how people can live with this noise, maybe I'm just too sensitive? haha
does your macbook pro have an hdd or an sdd in it. The only reason why I was mention that was because some people were saying that they werent seeing the problem with an ssd in their macbook pro.
I'm not offended, sorry if I sounded that way.
Wow, now that is weird. 6200RPM has traditionally been the fastest those fans will ever spin. This means that heat has everything to do with it, I wonder why the 2011 is running so much hotter. Can anybody verify these numbers on their machines, see if maybe this is just an aberration and they should get a replacement?
No doubt the GPU is being clocked down in the face of all that heat. If the machine would run cooler I'm sure it would also deliver better frame rates.
Probably a much thicker machine. I don't mean to be "defending Apple" but physics are physics. Cram a fast chip into a tiny box and you've gotta do something to get rid of the heat. Now the difference between the 2010MBP and the 2011MBP is surprising and weird. Worth investigating.
Just got my MBP 13" i5 today as an upgrade from my 2010 13" C2D and have the same problems as you. I moved over my OCZ Vertex 2 SSD disk and did a clean install, so it's got nothing to do with heat from HDD.
Idle temp with iStat is around 50 degrees, and around 60-70 when doing web surfing with multiple windows and itunes playing music. The fan stays at 2000rpm at this time which is not audible for me.
During Skype video chat or viewing any video or heavy graphics the fan comes up and goes up way louder than my 2010 MBP. The temp goes up to about 88-91 degrees Celsius.
I don't think the gain in speed (noticeable, but not as massive difference) is worth the sound and irritation of that fan coming on full blast. Didn't expect this when I was so pleased with my old MBP (coming from 16 years of PC).
Here is a screenshot of Keynote iPad2 showing temp and fan speed
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Wow, what else was running? I saw your picture so tried the same on mine, only had mail & firefox running. I let the video of the keynote run for 15mins before taking the photo:
Just a thought, but to you 2 with the high temps are you using safari/firefox/chrome?
I was using firefox with my 58c
I was using firefox with my 58c
I think that video decoding is not using proper gpu or cpu acelaration. And that makes your macbook pro a little toasty
I'm on my gf mbp (2010) and it's very quiet. Looks like apple has some bugs to fix. Or the app developers.
I'm on my gf mbp (2010) and it's very quiet. Looks like apple has some bugs to fix. Or the app developers.
Using Chrome for both of my pictures. I was about to return my new Macbook 2011, but, as you can see from the second photo, my ever reliable and cool 2010 gets quite toasty when watching the video too.
I just used Firefox and got similar figures to you. Amazing, how only a tenth of the CPU is being used, but a fifth with Chrome while watching that video.
Welcome the 2010 Core2Duo to the club too, the temperatures wound up only a few degrees cooler in the C2D, but the CPU was working at 50% capacity:
Look at all these people laughing as our MacBooks are on fire.
How much less capacity are the newer CPU's working at?
I was using Firefox 4 nightly build which seems to be the reason for the extreme high fan speed (6200rpm) whenever playing video.
Using Firefox 3.6.14 playing the ipad2 video and all my other programs running (Chrome, Skype, Twitter, iTunes, MailPlane, Sparrow, Coda, Versions) I get considerably less noise from fan. It doesn't go past 4000rpm and CPU seems to go to max 85-87 Celsius.
But I was using FF4 without it getting as hot with my 2010 MBP so 2011 is getting hotter in general, but at least these are levels I can live with.
Playing Starcraft II brings the rpm up to a constant 6200rpm though, but the fan was constantly on with 2010 model too (unknown rpm) so I can just put on headphones when playing.
Using Firefox 3.6.14 playing the ipad2 video and all my other programs running (Chrome, Skype, Twitter, iTunes, MailPlane, Sparrow, Coda, Versions) I get considerably less noise from fan. It doesn't go past 4000rpm and CPU seems to go to max 85-87 Celsius.
But I was using FF4 without it getting as hot with my 2010 MBP so 2011 is getting hotter in general, but at least these are levels I can live with.
Playing Starcraft II brings the rpm up to a constant 6200rpm though, but the fan was constantly on with 2010 model too (unknown rpm) so I can just put on headphones when playing.
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I think you are all experiencing a different issue than mine...
Mine is definitely coming from the HDD, not the fan. My temp stays below 46 and my fan speed around 2000
Some other new MBP owners are experiencing the same HDD issue though:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1107642/
Mine is definitely coming from the HDD, not the fan. My temp stays below 46 and my fan speed around 2000
Some other new MBP owners are experiencing the same HDD issue though:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1107642/
im about to get a 13' MBP. Is this issue only happening to SOME 13' models? so not everyone's affected right?
No idea... I'm going to a reseller today to check and ask if other models have the same noise. I'll report back
+1
I can even play games without the fans going nuts. Loving it so far.
(I have the i7 model btw)
Edit : here are my temps
Edit 2 : and here's while watching the keynote for about 1min
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