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2011 Macbook Pro 13 - many beachballs with 510 SSD

Weaselboy said:
That IS interesting bodaay. It would explain why some of us have no problems and others do even with the same configuration. For example, in this thread Desanti and I both have 2011 13" MBP with Intel 510 SSD. Mine works perfectly and Desanti's is all jacked up.

Just for comparison, here is the same Quickbench test on my Intel 510.

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Transfer Size   Sequential Read   Sequential Write    Random Read      Random Write

   4 KBytes      33.740 MB/Sec     27.698 MB/Sec     15.425 MB/Sec     28.121 MB/Sec
   8 KBytes      60.841 MB/Sec     48.257 MB/Sec     32.479 MB/Sec     51.688 MB/Sec
  16 KBytes      105.250 MB/Sec    85.770 MB/Sec     55.218 MB/Sec     88.609 MB/Sec
  32 KBytes      164.943 MB/Sec    135.616 MB/Sec    91.372 MB/Sec     135.326 MB/Sec
  64 KBytes      224.997 MB/Sec    181.587 MB/Sec    140.072 MB/Sec    188.549 MB/Sec
 128 KBytes      265.273 MB/Sec    224.514 MB/Sec    158.920 MB/Sec    187.259 MB/Sec
 256 KBytes      310.916 MB/Sec    249.942 MB/Sec    188.515 MB/Sec    198.819 MB/Sec
 512 KBytes      263.133 MB/Sec    220.503 MB/Sec    215.689 MB/Sec    185.438 MB/Sec
1024 KBytes      284.329 MB/Sec    136.741 MB/Sec    304.169 MB/Sec    118.976 MB/Sec

Standard Ave     190.380 MB/Sec    145.625 MB/Sec    133.540 MB/Sec    131.420 MB/Sec


Extended Test Results:
Test Cycles: 5

Transfer Size        Extended Read      Extended Write

 20 MBytes           337.563 MB/Sec     119.959 MB/Sec
 30 MBytes           339.301 MB/Sec     119.114 MB/Sec
 40 MBytes           339.534 MB/Sec     120.449 MB/Sec
 50 MBytes           339.652 MB/Sec     119.629 MB/Sec
 60 MBytes           340.095 MB/Sec     120.526 MB/Sec
 70 MBytes           340.164 MB/Sec     119.327 MB/Sec
 80 MBytes           340.610 MB/Sec     120.224 MB/Sec
 90 MBytes           340.383 MB/Sec     119.707 MB/Sec
100 MBytes           340.478 MB/Sec     119.417 MB/Sec

Extended Ave         339.754 MB/Sec     119.817 MB/Sec
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Yeah, it seems different batches have different cables. Anyway, I hope it continue to work flawlessly. I've tried shutting down completly several times. Still working fine (Thank God).
With the old cable it wouldn't even boot normally and even if it boots, many many beach balls

mac jones said:
I just ordered the cable form another seller. No way i'm going to force a screw though. If it doesn't come off i'm just going to leave it. Right now it's in the Optibay giving fine performance at the somewhat slower speed.

Really it would be nice to have the 6gbps, but I can live with it the way it is.

Any more suggestions about the troublesome screw? Any advice?

thanks
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Start by philips 0, and then go smaller if it didn't work properly like #00, don't try too hard although it's quite tight.

Good luck :)
 
Guy Mancuso said:
Not sure this can be a cable though. They use the same Sata connector for Sata 2 and 3
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But that's the point. No special cable for the higher speed. So if this is a cable issue alone, it would perhaps be just manufacturing variations (the older cable is a little better that's all )

pot luck.

But at least it works (maybe).

But best not to get hopes up though, because the same hit-or-miss cable problem might be with all these cable (replacement cables included). He might of just got a lucky with his replacement cable, and the ones we order might not work at all.

We shall see.
 
mac jones said:
But that's the point. No special cable for the higher speed. So if this is a cable issue alone, it would perhaps be just manufacturing variations (the older cable is a little better that's all )

pot luck.

But at least it works (maybe).

But best not to get hopes up though, because the same hit-or-miss cable problem might be with all these cable (replacement cables included). He might of just got a lucky with his replacement cable, and the ones we order might not work at all.

We shall see.
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Don't forget to post back :)
 
Maybe I will go to Frys electronic locally buy the 510 and see if it works otherwise i can walk it back in the store. Need to check there refund policy on that first though.
 
Update:
boot time was really bad, almost 1 minute

PRAM reset resolved this, and now its 25 seconds :)
 
I'm having problems with my Intel 510 and 15in MBP (standard 2.2 config). Does anyone know if the SATA cable used in the 2011 model is the same as the one in the late 2008 model? I have the earlier model handy, and could swap cables if they're identical.

EDIT: nvm, I just opened up the late 2008 model, and alas it has a different cable.

Has anyone tried the 10.6.7 update designed specifically for the early 2011 model? I know it doesn't say it will address any SSD issues, but it's worth a try.
 
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I'm wondering the same thing. Maybe those that had issues with the 510 can try it again and report if you have better luck now with the update being installed.

Sorry we need guinea pigs here. :)
 
Guy Mancuso said:
I'm wondering the same thing. Maybe those that had issues with the 510 can try it again and report if you have better luck now with the update being installed.

Sorry we need guinea pigs here. :)
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Same problem with my 17" after 10.6.7 update. I do show a 6Gb connection on a consistent basis now.
 
I'm still hoping this is a software/firmware issue. Some people had luck running the SSD under bootcamp when they can't get it to work under OS X, so in theory, it still could be software caused.
 
Hi

I just did a stress test on my mac, 2011, 15", 2.3ghz, 8gb, anti glare, high res, 750gb with no SSD, and it still freezes...

Can anyone try is also, i downloaded SmallluxGPU, set it for CPU 8 + GPU and pressed Run Interactive Mode, a few mins later the MAC crash just like with the SSD.
 
sacraments said:
Hi

I just did a stress test on my mac, 2011, 15", 2.3ghz, 8gb, anti glare, high res, 750gb with no SSD, and it still freezes...

Can anyone try is also, i downloaded SmallluxGPU, set it for CPU 8 + GPU and pressed Run Interactive Mode, a few mins later the MAC crash just like with the SSD.
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Are you referring to the 10.6.6 crash bug seen with CPU & GPU stress? Or the issue with SSD? Because they are separate issues.
 
hehe299792458 said:
I'm still hoping this is a software/firmware issue. Some people had luck running the SSD under bootcamp when they can't get it to work under OS X, so in theory, it still could be software caused.
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I'm not sure about that. My MBP seems to work under light load with the SSD in OS X but gives trouble occassionally on heavy HD load (VMWare fresh Virtual Machine Install).

I installed Win 7 natively via Bootcamp and everything seemed to work. But doing the extensive read/write test (or whatever it's called) on the Windows Partition with Intel SSD Toolbox, it worked ok on some attempts but I got failure messages on ca. every second attempt (no details, only saying something like "Please contact your local intel service partner...").

No crashes or freezes on Win 7 yet, but I didn't do any heavy load testing yet.
 
macssdfighter said:
I'm not sure about that. My MBP seems to work under light load with the SSD in OS X but gives trouble occassionally on heavy HD load (VMWare fresh Virtual Machine Install).

I installed Win 7 natively via Bootcamp and everything seemed to work. But doing the extensive read/write test (or whatever it's called) on the Windows Partition with Intel SSD Toolbox, it worked ok on some attempts but I got failure messages on ca. every second attempt (no details, only saying something like "Please contact your local intel service partner...").

No crashes or freezes on Win 7 yet, but I didn't do any heavy load testing yet.
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Too bad.... I was hoping that it'd run fine on windows 7 and therefore be a purely software/firmware problem. I still wonder though, what is the problem?
 
I think i got the other problem, just got 10.6.7 and been running 2 hours with now break down


Going to put in the SSD now and see if it works better now ;)
 
sacraments said:
have you guys not read this ?

http://www.hardmac.com/news/2011/03...d-on-the-defective-hard-drive-cable-was-right
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Look at post #122. https://forums.macrumors.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=12213865
I'm pretty sure they were looking at our thread (hi guys:cool:)


It has been confirmed that the cable is the solution to the problem, but I'm not sure if it's the cause. For sure, the cable is somehow related, but I'm still curious to know if there's some software/firmware problem that made the cable so much worse.
 
sacraments said:
I think i got the other problem, just got 10.6.7 and been running 2 hours with now break down


Going to put in the SSD now and see if it works better now ;)
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I'm on 10.6.7 and it doesn't change a thing about the SSD problem. Trying to get hands on a replacement cable now...

UPDATE: I was in two Apple Repair Centers here in Vienna. Not allowed to give out cables and no cables in stock. One center wasn't helpful at all, the other offered to order and replace the cable for me. Will cost me 58 EUR in total. Of course no guarantee on improving the function. Cable will arrive on Thursday. I'll keep you informed...
 
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macssdfighter said:
I'm on 10.6.7 and it doesn't change a thing about the SSD problem. Trying to get hands on a replacement cable now...
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best of luck.

Out of curiosity, has anyone tried installing the developer preview of OS X 10.7 (Lion) on their machines? It'd be interesting to see if that helps (or worsens) anything.
 
well walla!

Seems i never did have any problems beside the 2011 crash that got fixed in 10.6.7

My SSD is going well and no hickups
 
Install

15" 2.3 Ghz, 8gb ram, high res, anti glare, 750gb HD

First i took out 750 GB Harddrive out of machine, dident even start it up
I put in the new Intel SSD 510 250 gb into the laptop, startet the macbook with the CD they shipped with it. Made 1 big partition, installed osx 10.6.6, inst. bootcamp 50gb windows / 200gb osx
Installed Windows 7, no problem
checked if it was running 3 or 6 gbs, it was running 3 so i did a reset of PRAM SMC etc. a few times to be sure it was reset
After that it was running 6gbs
i then updatet osx from 10.6.6.to 10.6.7


Been running stress test for the last 3-4 hours with no problems
 
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