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I built my own PC 3 months ago (I do not do laptops for I get them for my job). It has not crashed or frozen even once. Obviously - no viruses (it's Windows 7)

I got a virus today, Windows 7. Luckily I'm not stupid enough to extract it. I do, however, browse sites that can get you infected. Most people wouldn't have this issue and would never see a virus.

I'm not sure why you think Windows 7 is virus free, far from it. I've had at least 3 detections in the past 6 months. Quite simple to manage malware, considering the latest apps do a great job detecting / quarantining threats.

The things you speak about stability, though, are true. Just as stable as OSX. In fact, I had more system instabilities with my iMac. I never have had a blue screen or any type of system instability on my Windows 7 machine.
 
I tried option 2 of the repro steps on mine and the fans came on, but no crashing.

I've got a 13in 2011 -- are those affected? (I didn't look hard, but it seems to be a 15& 17 issue)
 
It's funny this story made it to the top, I thought I was the only one.


Though mine started with sleep/wake issues on my 15" thunderbook (2.2ghz). Graphical glitches after sleeping (ie Log In screen was all jittered looking and wouldn't respond).

I can duplicate the new issue too, Open Photobooth and run yes > etc just once and instant freeze. It's crazy.
 
Add me to the list of people this is affecting. I read about this this morning and thought I might have just gotten lucky since I hadn't seen this happen yet on my 15" 2.2GHz i7 w/8GB ram and the AMD Radeon HD 6750M... Then about 10 minutes later, while watching hulu and syncing my iPhone, BOOM, image on the screen locked up, audio kept playing, and the cursor could be moved, ssh in worked for a while, before coming unresponsive. Keyboard was unresponsive (cmd-opt-esc, cmd-ctrl-power, brightness, sound, kb backlight keys, caps lock all did nothing), and only fix was holding down the power button.

While the machine was hot this was reproducible very quickly (I first noticed this with the machine on my bed). With the machine cool it took much longer to reproduce (but it eventually did happen).
 
Sucks for you guys who have the new macbook pros.

Guess what, apple ain't gonna fix squat.

I have the i7 2010 model and it kept freezing and it was a known issue.

You know what apple did? Turn the other direction and acted like nothing happened. Even brought it in the apple store to get logic board replaced and still freezes.

PRetty stupid to be having problems for a $2000 machine don't you think?

Is there a limit on how many times you can get warranty work done? JW
 
I'd vote for a Snow Leopard problem.

I have a mid-2007 MacBook that has just recently begun having the exact same problem!
 
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I got this problem *only* after exiting SC2 or WoW. The screen would fade through black normally but instead of fading out, it just stays black. The fans would never die down (usually after intense gaming the fans cool the MBP down to 55 in around 30 seconds after exiting the intense app).

And I did try SSH'ing in and killing the app I just tried to exit normally. But it didn't do anything. So I just hard reset.
 
I built my own PC 3 months ago (I do not do laptops for I get them for my job). It has not crashed or frozen even once. Obviously - no viruses (it's Windows 7)

Funny how you ignore the disaster that sits under the hood - if there was ever an example of a company flinging crap against a wall to see which idea sticks it would be Microsoft. Never have I seen such a poorly laid out operating system; files rammed in random locations, registry clogged to the brim with crap, no consistent naming system (why does 32 still exist in filenames that are 64bit?), half finished frameworks, under utilised frameworks (why aren't common controls etc. being drawn in Direct2D/DirectWrite?) and so on.

Please, I've been following Apple for around 10 years, and around 1/2 dozen bugs in the last 10 years is pretty damn good if you ask me when compared to the walking disaster that I've seen when it comes to the PC world - Dell hiding capacitor issues, HP chocking laptops to the brim with desktop hardware that demands you sit in on a perfectly flat surface, Toshiba and the 3 motherboards I went through in 2 months, the Acer laptops where the first component to die is always the hard disk.

For everyone 'Apple horror story' you have, I can point to a heck of a lot more from the PC world - and that isn't even getting the operating system involved. The operating system in the PC world is but a small component when compared to the larger clusterf-ck that is the PC's race to the bottom and cutting costs when ever and where ever possible.
 
No issues here, but mine is a 13" i7 so there is only the Intel graphics. I can watch HD Youtube videos for well over an hour without the fans kicking in. All I hear is a slight whisper from the hard drive.
 
My custom built Windows 7 rig can run circles around all your macs. Virus/problem free.

Oh yeah, it doesn't crash under load either ;).

And my i7 Hackintosh can probably run circles around yours. And it triple boots OSX, Win7 and Ubuntu.

I too can join this pissing match and I'm sure someone will show up to outdo me and the next guy. :rolleyes:
 
Seems this is now how its gonna be in the future.

With every new Release Apple makes its more ******* up than the previous.
The Quality controll seems to get better every release. But ok, they have their Ipad2 and with it everythin is just fine.. oh wait :(
Not to mention the stroke of genius going back to Intel graphic (Hooray).

No wonder there are rumors that Apple want to start producing in Brazil, which surely would be "soo" much better. -_-

Kudos to you Apple.
 
Tried it with 16 instances of yes > /dev/null with PhotoBooth running on my new 15" MBP and still nothing.

I'll try it with boost when MacPorts finished installing. It's been stuck on "Less than a minute" for a while now. Slightly disconcerting, but no hanging or freezing.
 
I don't have this issues, i have tried in the first days pushing cpu and gpu without problems.
 
I'lll be converting a 1080p film using Handbrake in a bit.. First time on my new MBP. I hope I don't freeze or crash. I'll be sure to edit in if I do.
 
I have a 15" MBO 2011 2.3. Just tested the "photobooth + yes" thing, and yes it freezes. Other issues I have discovered:

- Running a ppt presentation (MS Powerpoint), when discrete graphics is on, crashes powerpoint
- Loggin out, login in as a different user and running any app that turns on discrete graphics, login out and login in again messes up your display resolution

In all these cases, setting your machine to use integrated graphics only (e.g., by using gfxCardStatus app) solves the problem.
 
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Can anyone tell me what a Thunderbook is?
 
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Thunderbook = Thunderbolt + MacBook(Pro).

At least, that's how I interpret it..
 
Hi, MacDuke -- you indicated that you have a new Thunderbook that doesn't exhibit the freezing -- that's great news! It means there's hope for the rest of us...

Just to be sure there were no outside interdependencies, I did a complete fresh install of OS X on a reformatted disk -- no add-ons, no extras, just plain off-the-dvd OS X.

I wanted to reproduce the problem before calling AppleCare, and get away from the "did you do this and that" discussion.

I simply started up PhotoBooth (not iPhoto), and selected the "Mirrored" effect -- this was rumoured to force the system to use the discrete graphics card.

Then I fired up 9 Terminal windows -- one to run "top" and I started running "yes > /dev/null" in each of the other windows. I figured this test would take a long time to hang -- it did so almost immediately, allowing me to call Apple and report that with absolutely no outside influences, the system showed the problem.

First post here with half a clue and then you leave us in suspenders? :eek:

So, what did "top" say?

Try running it with a short interval time and no sleep time, e.g. "top -i 1 -o cpu -s 0".

Of course, that will make "top" eat up all the CPU so maybe that's not such a good idea :D

I've seen serious (multiple second) "soft freezes" on my wheezing old Early 2006 MacBook Pro (2.16 GHz Core Duo model with 2 GB) when it is creating new swap files in "/var/vm" from too much machine/memory loading.

I wonder if new swap files are being created in this case? Do all the machines affected have 8 GB of RAM?

P.S. This is what you get for being an Apple early adopter :p Always wait for the 2nd or 3rd generation!
 
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