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My concerns are about gpu ventilation, with the gtx 680mx chip

My experience with 2009 iMac is good heat management with cpu, I can leave iMac encoding video (all cpu cores 100%) for hours with no issue, but when gaming gpu heat and locks up if i don't use smcfancontrol...
 
I’ve been looking at the heating angle. The new CPU is cooler but it’s the GPU that puts out the most heat, and the new one puts out more. But the heat news is not all bad. Just below the pedestal mount there’s a square grill to let the air flow out. There are air inlets at the bottom. The CPU fan looks to exit near the vent. The GPU fan is concealed; ...

Nope, I don't think there are any "concealed" fans. The main heatsink sits on top of and above the processor, and there's a heat pipe from the GPU to that main heatsink. The fan you mention towards the upper left forces air across the heatsink and presumably out the vent.

Hard drives are not a significant source of heat by a long shot. They consume maybe 5-10W after startup. The hard drive in the new iMac is clearly passively cooled which is probably why some models are limited to 5400 RPM.

The only things I can't readily identify are the dark sections towards the left and right. I can't imagine they have fans since they wouldn't be tall enough and they look enclosed. I doubt they are speaker ports either since they seem much too big. Maybe they are just plastic bits for structural support.
 
Nope, I don't think there are any "concealed" fans. The main heatsink sits on top of and above the processor, and there's a heat pipe from the GPU to that main heatsink. The fan you mention towards the upper left forces air across the heatsink and presumably out the vent.

Hard drives are not a significant source of heat by a long shot. They consume maybe 5-10W after startup. The hard drive in the new iMac is clearly passively cooled which is probably why some models are limited to 5400 RPM.

The only things I can't readily identify are the dark sections towards the left and right. I can't imagine they have fans since they wouldn't be tall enough and they look enclosed. I doubt they are speaker ports either since they seem much too big. Maybe they are just plastic bits for structural support.

The dark sections on the left and right are just the screen. Those are the sections which only have a width of 5mm. They couldn't really fit anything else in...
 
I think it's a definite concern. You can't just trust Apple will have tested it, as they would have tested previous models and they still had significant issues.

I'm waiting for reviews before ordering.
 
Could the 5400 HD indicate a need to reduce heat. I can't think of any other reason to use one.
 
Convection cooling?

Nope, I don't think there are any "concealed" fans. The main heatsink sits on top of and above the processor, and there's a heat pipe from the GPU to that main heatsink. The fan you mention towards the upper left forces air across the heatsink and presumably out the vent.

Hard drives are not a significant source of heat by a long shot. They consume maybe 5-10W after startup. The hard drive in the new iMac is clearly passively cooled which is probably why some models are limited to 5400 RPM.

The only things I can't readily identify are the dark sections towards the left and right. I can't imagine they have fans since they wouldn't be tall enough and they look enclosed. I doubt they are speaker ports either since they seem much too big. Maybe they are just plastic bits for structural support.

With 40% less volume in its case how can the new iMacs deal adequately with cooling? (This decrease fails to take note that the screen mounting frees up some of this space functionally.) In older iMacs convection played a role in cooling. There were intakes at the bottom. As the air in the iMac was heated by its operation it expanded and rose toward the outlets at or near the top, drawing more air at the bottom at the same time, thus creating a chimney effect. Note that the heated air shows both a temperature change and a related pressure change. If allowed to expand, the temperature of a given volume drops; if compressed, the temperature of a given volume rises.

The new model has its outlet in a small grill below the center of the back. One member notes that the discharge of the single evident fan aligns with this vent approximately. But anyone who has attempted to use a fan placed in a window knows there is a problem of a lack of coupling: the fan must be mounted so as to block, stop up, the window opening around the fan to gain any effect. Unless there be some coupling of the fan to the vent the effect will be negligible. If there is a coupling, the heat control will be nearly 100% controlled by the fan, with little contribution by convection.

I can see, after consideration, that the shape of the back is designed to influence the effect of convection in a complex way. The extremely narrow sides and top are limiting factors in the tendency for heated air to expand freely. Thinking on an increment scale, delta T/P—air heating adjacent to any relatively hot spot off center will, in its tendency to expand, be forced to move to the center where there is more room for expansion. This is true even at the top. The movement of the heated air will tend to concentrate it in the center of the back. (The bottom is a special case because the action of the heated air overall to draw air in at the bottom.)

Thus convection cooling can play a significant role in the new iMac, continuing an outstanding design tradition. Thus the promptings of a style change are resolved in such a way that form can be truly said to follow function.

I will wait for the reviews before ordering, but I was heartened when I saw that convection cooling is part of the design.
 
Can someone explain if this is the intake where is the speakers?


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In the keynote apple said it was on the right and left side underneath the chin.
 
I find it odd how some people seem to believe that Apple actually did not test these new iMacs, for all we know they could be cooler than previous generations! Heat dissipation is not a linear curve nor as simple as just adding more fans and vents. Looking forward to the reviews on this 'issue'! :)

Sure as hell they did. But did they stress test it? 80% - 90% CPU utilization, 8 hours per day, for a year or two? A few iMacs I managed got bad LCD screen after a while; one overheated and turned off after 30 minutes from a cold boot.

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With 40% less volume in its case how can the new iMacs deal adequately with cooling? (This decrease fails to take note that the screen mounting frees up some of this space functionally.) In older iMacs convection played a role in cooling. There were intakes at the bottom. As the air in the iMac was heated by its operation it expanded and rose toward the outlets at or near the top, drawing more air at the bottom at the same time, thus creating a chimney effect. Note that the heated air shows both a temperature change and a related pressure change. If allowed to expand, the temperature of a given volume drops; if compressed, the temperature of a given volume rises.

Not an expert in thermodynamics, but with the fan in the back, the high-pressured hot air can be expelled at once from the chassis. The current form factor works great, until dust falls into the top exhaust vent. Over time, that clogs the outflow and overheats the machine. IIRC, the last iMac G5 has both a rear vent and a top slot for exhaust. Lost that one to overheating.
 
21 iMac 2.9 GHz, 8 GB RAM, runs cool

I haven't been challenging it, no games, but I've used it maybe 10 hours a day. It runs cool, both the case by touch, and at the vent. My early 2006, 2 GHz Core Duo, 2 GB RAM, used much less, runs warmer. The fan in the 2012 is more powerful, the heat sinks and heat tubes are no doubt more prevalent--but the fact is it's a much more powerful computer and more complex in its operations. I think the designer-engineers worked a magic, made the air flow turn inward and downward to the vent--by tricks using convection! Surely there ought to be recognition for them.

I hope you heavier users, and users with the more potent processors, will check your experience out and check in on this.
 
I have the 21.5" base model, so far the machine doesnt seem to be generating a lot of heat. I tried touching the back of the imac a few times and its not even warm.

although I am not a heavy user, usually just web browsing and watch movies on it.
 
21.5inch 16gb fusion

ICE COLD. I have been playing games, watching videos and multitasking on various other apps. I have also been running (never entering sleep mode) this device for the past 40 hours straight. Not only has the device been insanely fast and silent but wow is it cold...not warm, not cool, but cold.

After the fiery hot 2011 model I was expecting this smaller device with only one fan and no air in/outlets on the top to get pretty toasty. I have no idea what is to blame for this incredible improvement and I have heard similar results while reading online reviews so I am surprised that apple has not flaunted their success in this very important aspect of computing on their website.

Any ideas on how this has happened? I have heard some mention more energy efficient cpu/gpu others have spoken of the way the air venting has been designed but I havent heard any concrete evidence.
 
real test will be the i7 with gtx680mx running guildwars 2 or the witcher 2 at high details...

just waiting :D
 
With 40% less volume in its case how can the new iMacs deal adequately with cooling? ...

Less volume often means increased air flow which means increased cooling.

Of course bigger is better for heatsinks and fans, but if your space isn't being taken up by a heatsink or a fan, then it's just space for hot air to stagnate and create an air flow "short circuit."

Notice how the temperatures of components in an ATX form factor PC almost always decrease when the side of the case is on, rather than off, even though when it's off there's basically unlimited space for hot air to escape/expand.

It's nice to see the single-fan cooling design of the 2012 iMac vs. the older designs with 3 fans. Multiple fans means more components that can fail, either a complete failure or enough of a failure to cause an annoying noise. And mismatched fan RPMs can also produce annoying sounds. I used a 2011 iMac for a while and it sounded great except for the fan towards the bottom right that made a faint random 'ticking' noise. If it was loud outside it was hard to notice but if it was quiet in the room, it was like Chinese water torture to work with that machine.
 
I am super hesitant to buy this iMac. My 2007 Macbook Pro already overheated 3 days after warranty expired and cooked the motherboard and GPU. Got a Mac Pro and it stays cool but when playing games my graphics card starts to whine a lot.

I kind of have no choice but to go with another Mac Pro or a PC really :\ fff Apple..
 
You might be correct on the intakes.

MIGHT BE? Try Definitely!

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Once again people are jumping to conclusions about the new iMacs. These new machines are quite different from their predecessors so the jury will be out for a little while on how efficient they are for cooling.

I guess we gotta wait and see.

EDIT: I guess we don't. ArsTechnica article states they are definitely cooler as some knowledgable posters on here suspected about 3 weeks ago due to the new design.
 
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My 27inch iMac 2012 with 3,4ghz quad i7, gtx 680mx and 1tb fusion drive will arrive soon hopefully.

I can't wait to try Battlefield 3, Crysis 3 and games like those to test it.
As well as Aftereffects rendering (will stress gpu aswell) colorcorrection and other intense stuff.

I will report!

:D
 
My 27inch iMac 2012 with 3,4ghz quad i7, gtx 680mx and 1tb fusion drive will arrive soon hopefully.

I can't wait to try Battlefield 3, Crysis 3 and games like those to test it.
As well as Aftereffects rendering (will stress gpu aswell) colorcorrection and other intense stuff.

I will report!

:D

with your AE rendering, are you afraid that it will overheat? If you got any info on this can you please share because I really need to upgrade to a new computer haha
 
Just A Simple Test!

I went to to a Premium Apple Re-Seller and they had an old iMac 27 next to a new iMac 21.5 and BY FAR THE NEW IMAC WAS VERY COOL TO THE TOUCH across the entire back while the old 27 was blazing hot across the back. These machines had been on since the start of the day, I went in at midday.

You decide if the cooling is improved or not!
 
According to the Ifixit breakdown there is a single fan that draws air in from the vents on the bottom of the machine and blows the heat out through the grate on the back.
 
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