I think in your use case that not having a DVD drive if great. It fits your needs perfectly. For me that would be not perfect fit. I do use my DVD drive. I don't want to have to carry around a external DVD. I know they are not that expensive...from Apple about $80. The externals are also a lot slower that an internal drive is. If the new MBP re design includes removing the DVD drive then I will stick with the 2011 MBPs and be happy with that.......I own MBA and a Mac Mini, and I certainly don't feel crippled in the least. I'm looking at a MBP now for gaming, but I could actually care less whether it has an optical drive or not.
I am not even sure a MBP is the best choice for WoW full-time, but I can't stand the idea of going back to a PC laptop. I don't want a desktop, because I'm over hardcore gaming and like to play from my couch while watching TV with the family.
Either way, the idea that removing an optical drive is "crippling" seems absurd when a $40 USB drive "uncripples" it and most users do not use an optical drive 95% of the time I'd guess.
Now to decide whether I should wait for the redesign or not, I just don't know as I am not all that patient
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2012 Macbook Pro Redesign
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Considering you just said that you could care less about the optical drive, I guess you currently care at some level then?
Oh sure, optical drives are neat and I was never so much an advocate for removing them, but the idea that removing them renders a device impotent seems far-fetched to me.
Optical drive is the smallest of the bonuses I feel like I will gain when I get my MBP 15" to use over MBA 13 for certain things (namely light to medium gaming). I am much more interested in the difference in video, processor, & screen size.
Someone who works with media creation all day would certainly find an internal optical more to their liking but would also have to pay a premium to replace it at some point (usually more than an external). There are pros and cons to both, and I can't blame someone for wanting an optical drive anymore than they can blame me for just not caring about the drive.
I couldn't care less about a redesign really. I just want ivy bridge and retina display. I'm really hoping for an Ipad 3/Macbook event in March. I also would not miss the optical drive so long as the loss of it results in some sort of benefit. I don't want to just lose the optical drive and get nothing.
I have probably used my 2007 MBP's OD under ten times.
I just wish we knew when this redesign will happen and what it will include so I can choose between buying a 13" MBA now or wait for the new Pro's.
And I guess you could consider me "Pro" user as I am an EE masters student and IT Specialist.
I just wish we knew when this redesign will happen and what it will include so I can choose between buying a 13" MBA now or wait for the new Pro's.
And I guess you could consider me "Pro" user as I am an EE masters student and IT Specialist.
Apple was the first to drop the floppy drive all together back when Steve Jobs returned to the company and started all the eye-candy stuff.
Now, 14 years later, it wouldn't surprise me if they do the same with the Optical Drive. If they don't drop the Optical Drive soon all together, Steve will be turning in his grave.
Now, 14 years later, it wouldn't surprise me if they do the same with the Optical Drive. If they don't drop the Optical Drive soon all together, Steve will be turning in his grave.
yea, hopefully they stick with the same price point. i bought my 15" for $2100 ($1800 model now) so if they have a refreshed $1800 one i will be happy as long as it stays at least 2.2 i7. if they do do-away with the optical drive, will that mean no dual hdd/ssd's? Also, how much do you guys think i could get for my 15" early 2011 MBP with 8gb ram 2.2ghz i7?
In early 2011 I had stated that I don't think the optical drive was ready to be done away with.
Today I believe that they finally think the time is right. The techno-scape looks primed and ready. People have finally gotten to a point where the majority feels it's time and people are ready and primed for it to happen in a mainstream way. The people are ready.
Bobby Cowen has spoken. Therefore.. So it shall be.
Probably
Today I believe that they finally think the time is right. The techno-scape looks primed and ready. People have finally gotten to a point where the majority feels it's time and people are ready and primed for it to happen in a mainstream way. The people are ready.
Bobby Cowen has spoken. Therefore.. So it shall be.
Probably
A year ago I too was totally in the "keep the optical drive!" camp. Then about 6 months ago, it occurred to me how little I actually use my optical drive. And then the damn thing broke (again, in less than 3 months after getting it replaced) in my MBP. So yeah, I'm all for leaving them in the dust. Less moving parts, the better. I'm fine with picking up a $25 external optical drive for those rare times I need to read/burn a disc.
My only concern would be Boot Camp. I use Windows on my MBP a lot (via Boot Camp), and as far as I know, you can't boot off of a flash drive to install Windows in Boot Camp. But I'm fairly sure this is a simple EFI fix.
Other than that, please Apple for the love of God put a nice GPU in there.
The TB controller used in today's MBP actually supports two port. However, it's connected to PCIe 2.0 x4 slot, so in terms of raw bandwidth, two TB ports wouldn't provide much gain. PCIe 3.0 will solve that, though.
The HDD vs. SSD thing isn't really a question of reliability given that both do eventually fail. The SSD simply won't fail from mechanical wear. I worry that too many people buy into this myth and don't back up their SSDs.
Macs are quite popular for anything involving media creation whether it's for print or motion. Even if they drop the OD, I doubt they can go much thinner without running into throttling issues due to heat under heavy load. It's not just how they run new in terms of temperature, but how they run over the life of the machine. Not everyone is comfortable cleaning the inside of these machines.
It's using the same one as the imac right? My impression was that only the macbook air uses a lower bandwidth controller.
Have already posted my thoughts on the 13" MBP, but still, here they go again after some months to mature:
- Ivy Bridge processor, with quad-core as the high-end option. We haven't seen enough data to support consistently quad cores from the base model up.
- 1200*800 resolution screen with the option to upgrade to Retina by paying extra (I can't see them just throwing Retina displays and missing such a profitable opportunity).
- Two USB 3.0 ports, as they come native with IvyBridge. No reason not to include them.
- Removal of the Optical Drive, and replacement with either a bigger battery, improved cooling system, or a dedicated GPU. (granted, this one has some wishful thinking into it)
- No major redesign (just possible minor adjustements, like slightly lower height or ports on both sides if the Optical Drive gets ditched).
- Ivy Bridge processor, with quad-core as the high-end option. We haven't seen enough data to support consistently quad cores from the base model up.
- 1200*800 resolution screen with the option to upgrade to Retina by paying extra (I can't see them just throwing Retina displays and missing such a profitable opportunity).
- Two USB 3.0 ports, as they come native with IvyBridge. No reason not to include them.
- Removal of the Optical Drive, and replacement with either a bigger battery, improved cooling system, or a dedicated GPU. (granted, this one has some wishful thinking into it)
- No major redesign (just possible minor adjustements, like slightly lower height or ports on both sides if the Optical Drive gets ditched).
I remember this was huge a year ago. I was wondering if it would be brought up again. I remember the bar at the top of the apple website changed to the darker grey and everyone was like oooooohhhhhh that's a sign they are going to use liquid metal. But no.
I thought Ivy Bridge was rumored for April 8? With that date in mind, I'd guess anywhere between late April and Mid June. The earlier the better.