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2012 Macbook Pro Redesign
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For precisely the same reason I brought up the NSX. I could have agreed as this year there's no Honda capable of spanking an SLR....
But here's the thing: Apple always does this the same way, they introduce the new design alongside the old one so they can sell off the last few of the old design and discontinue the older one once the new design's tooling is paid off.
Honda has demonstrated a new NSX. Therefore it seems kind of silly to compare the SLR to the current Civic.
The old MBP still has a couple of quarters in it to help pay off the rMBP but it's a dead design walking. Apple has chosen to go with iOS device assembly techniques for their entire portable device line. Like it or not once the oMBP is retired the new MBP won't be an SLR any more... it'll be a SMART car.
Honda and Mercedes will have switched places in precisely the same way as Apple and Asus.
Ok, so you're basically repeating the same thing:
You don't compare Asus laptops to the cMBP even though they're similar because the cMBP will be discontinued before the rMBP.
I don't know what makes more sense, that, or the fact that you bring back the NSX analogy even though it has nothing to do with the topic.
Unlike Honda and their NSX, Asus has not demonstrated any laptop similar to the rMBP, let alone one that with will be upgradable.
No, Apple doesn't "always does this the same way", I don't recall them ever having two design generations at once while updating the old generation with new components before.
No, Apple soldering RAM to the rMBP is not the same as Honda and Mercedes switching places at all.
You have to notice that it's not just Apple. Any laptop that is around .71" thick has soldered RAM, whether it's a rMBP, MBA, Asus Zenbook, Samsung Series 9, Acer Aspire S5, Dell XPS 13, HP Folio 13... It's just a compromise that the whole industry is making in order to make thin laptops. You don't want a thin laptop? Fine, all manufacturers making the thin laptops I just listed also make thicker laptops that don't have soldered RAM, including Apple.
And guess what, the non-thin laptop designs those companies offer will all disappear before the rMBP is discontinued too! All a bunch of dead designs walking like you say.
I still fail to understand why the fact that the cMBP design being discontinued in maybe one year (when Haswell is released) would prevent you from buying one right now. It's still the best user-upgradable laptop on the market according to most reviews, and it has just been updated with the latest generation of CPU, GPU, RAM and SSD on the market.
I won't try to understand the reason you want to switch to an Asus laptop again if all you come up with is nonsense, but don't blame the fact that you want to switch on Apple if you have no logical reason to.
Every generational change involving a shift in body since MacBook's transition to an aluminum enclosure has been done this way.
If there's no getting through to you that Apple has gone off the deep end you obviously don't get that this is Apple allowing the iOS design team to whittle even more away from the Mac. Apple has never been one to build genuine powerhouse laptops but this is going too far. Turning the "pro" laptop into a giant, overpowered iDevice inside is too much.
I've seen the rot inside that campus up close and personal. If you're perfectly happy with a bar of soap that has so much screen glare you can shave in it with a full-lit white background, fine. Enjoy Apple's future portable devices. I'll be jumping ship for a G7x series because I want the options, the room inside and the overall enhanced usability that comes with a larger case and a design team not headed by Bob Mansfield with Scott Forstall on his shoulder like a damn mascot.
I give up.
You're still comparing the rMBP to thick Asus laptops and ignore the fact that the cMBP (with upgradeable storage and RAM as well as a matte screen option) is still available for you to buy, revised with the latest hardware.
You seem to be trying to convince yourself to switch. I won't know the real reason why but whatever, do it if you please. You can believe if you want that the cMBP doesn't exist anymore and that every new Mac hardware is designed by Scott Forstall, VP of iOS software. Yes, the rMBP is the only Mac laptop Apple sells and is in fact a giant, overpowered iOS device. Asus on the other hand doesn't sell any ultrabooks nor Android devices and only makes serious laptops with upgradable parts.
Go ahead and switch, it perfectly makes sense.
If you're fine with using Windows, go for it. But if Windows is what you want, then who are you considering an Apple laptop anyways? The reason I won't consider an Asus laptop is Windows. End of story.
The hardware is distinct from the OS. Just because it ships with Windows doesn't mean that's what I'd be using. Most likely I'd be running all 3 major OS lines: osx86 Mac OS, Windows 7 and Linux.
Mac OS traditionalists still operate under the superstition that Macs are synonymous with Mac OS and that all other products somehow must only run Windows. This assumption is false. Though Macs come with a chip on the logic board that Mac OS installers look for to authorize their use this is only a form of DRM aimed at keeping the platform closed and is really the only true distinction between Apple's products and anyone else's beyond cost and aesthetics.
Who I am.... I am a long time Apple afficionado that got to be inside the reality distortion bubble on that campus long enough to see both the rot and the hubris of a company whose implosion has already begun. I am not choosing Windows so much as I am choosing hardware not compromised by Apple's bizarre internal shifting of core staff from one project to another, thus resulting in an inevitable bleed-over from iOS devices into the other hardware. I have seen the rot at the core of Apple and I no longer see the company with the naive positivity of an outsider.
Oh. My. God. Are you the chosen one here to deliver us from the evil of Apple and liberate us?!?!?!
Lol you are a joke dude. You act like this rot and hubris is limited to Apple. Get off your high horse, apple is far from "imploding". lol.
Who's saying that? AFAIAA, it's just a rumor (or better said, the absence of a rumor like the one there's been for a redesigned 15" model).
The main risk in losing the 17" model (at least temporarily) may come from the anticipated future use of retina displays. Going over to retina on the 17" would mean that Apple would need to provide a display with a whopping 3840 * 2400 pixels. That's over 9 million pixels in total!Such high resolution displays may still be prohibitively expensive to produce at acceptable yields.
However, I'm not at all convinced that we're going to see retina screens in the next update. Indeed, looking at the continued relatively poor availability of the new iPad (at least in Europe), it wouldn't surprise me in the least if I heard that Apple was running behind schedule on the introduction of this new technology.
done and done