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I'm trying to wrap my head around how much these tests are stressing the cores compared to real world scenarios such as BF3 or doing some video editing???

Previous gen IvB i7 in multithreaded tests you can google with stock fan gets to 59degC and haswell in the same test stock fan can get to 78degC so there is quite a difference. Imac has only one fan as far I know so cooling is very limited, also fan threshold is set to start increase speed at around 95degC core temerature, so it will heat up more than stock fan in other desktop pc before cooling will kick in. So taking all of this together in theory we should expect haswell in imac to be warmer than haswell mounted in normal PC. Also I read that from i7 4770k asus has tested 70% can hit 4.5Ghz , 30% hit 4.6Ghz and only 10% hit stable 4.8Ghz, so even though imac has got 4771 with locked overclocking I expect that the same rule would apply: some lucky people will get cpu that can work at slightly lower temperatures than others. And of course environmental factor mentioned in one post should also matter, in warm rooms or even during summer times when average temerature is much higher fan may be used more often.

This is a pure theory, how it applies to the real application is a different story. I tested Starcraft II 8 player map with 8 bots highest ai added and fan never kicked in through the whole game, max core temperature was in low 90degC but average cpu temerature was much lower, possibly Starcraft doesn't use all 4 cores properly. I tested also another rts : DOW2 with biggest map and all expert bots, fan was quiet again through the whole game. I don't have BF3 so if someone could run 64 player map it would be a great test because it usues 4 cores or even hyper threading to some extend. CPU demanding games can be a good test because fan has to cool not only cpu but also gpu which can get itself to 80degC or more. Also would be great if someone could test video processing, 3d rendering or sound processing it would give us more indication if haswell in imac can handle high cpu load for a long period of time with low fan speed.
 
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Great post ^^^^^^^^^^

I think much of what you said is very likely what I am seeing!

- There is a variation in the CPUs that is easily on par with any variation in the thermal attach during assembly.

- After further thought and testing the person who asked how "realistic" the dev null test was - was actually right on! THe obvious flaw in dev null is it loads a single core 100% without spreading the load. Thus that core hot spots. I went back to my audio program and created two test scenarios - ~35% and 75% total cpu load. In both of these the load spreading was equal among the cores (program knows how to fully uses multiple cores). So in actual testing my temps at 35% and 75% were 64degC and 83degC peak (with fans on minimum!). Since I usually never even get to 50% load - this is good enough for what I am doing!

- Where the dev null test is interesting is in comparing the proc and the thermal system. Yes, I believe those with lower temps in that test have a combination of good thermal attach and one of the better performing processors. I wish mine were one but after two BTO's I may just choose the better of the two and be done. FWIW - BTO#1 is worse than BTO#2 in dev null test. It also peaks at 5degC higher temps in actual use.... at present I am returning BTO#1 tomorrow - have 10days to thing about #2....
 
iMac i5 vs i7

I am looking at configuring a new iMac BTO and was going to get the i7 but am now having second thoughts based on this discussion. My computer is used mostly for Photoshop, InDesign and Illustrator. Only minor video editing. Can anyone here tell me if the Adobe products I use benefit from hyperthreading? That would help me decide between the i5 and i7.
Thank you

What computer did you finally decide on and how is is working for you? My iMac i7 core from 2010 needs to be replaced. It always ran hot and the graphics card is now shot, I have already replaced the hard drive and logic board under AppleCare, it is not worth replacing the graphics card on this machine. I am trying to decide whether I need the i7 core for photo editing with Lightroom/Photoshop going to slideshow/videos plus Illustrator; InDesign and other Adobe Creative Cloud apps. Can you share your experience so far?
Thanks,
Ann
 
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