2016 15" MBP Screen uniformity

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  1. Farsider macrumors 6502

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    I just seem to have the worst luck when it comes to retina display devices. New 15" MBP arrives, very excited. Open it up, go through initial setup and everything is fine. Open Safari and go to my favourite Mac news site (hint: Macrumors). Start scrolling through the news and notice that the top and bottom of my screen only have a yellow tint. Nice and white in the middle but muddy at the top and the bottom....particularly the bottom. Its like 2 horizontal brownish stripes.

    Anyone else see this on their screens?

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    My 2014 rMBP for comparison

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  2. chabig macrumors 68040

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    It's not bad luck. It's you. I don't even see it on your screen. All I see is a useless white screen. When you use the computer, the screen isn't entirely white like that, so why would you try to make a judgment on it in such a configuration?
     
  3. vddobrev macrumors regular

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    I see it clearly. So much for "better display"...
     
  4. kevinkyoo macrumors 6502a

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    You don't see it? Look at the top and bottom thirds of the screen. There's a clear yellow line going across.
     
  5. aaron5566 macrumors regular

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    I think you might very well just be unlucky. I don't think I see this on my 15".
     
  6. chabig macrumors 68040

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    I really don't see anything. It's yellower than the screen next to it, but it can be calibrated to match.
     
  7. vddobrev macrumors regular

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    Calibrate which part of the screen? It is clear it is not uniform, I would return it immediately.
     
  8. chabig macrumors 68040

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    No LCD is uniform. It's impossible. Here is a quote from Displaymate

    "The brightness and color of an LCD can vary over the screen. First, it's difficult to backlight the panel uniformly over the entire screen, so there may be hot and cold spots that are brighter or dimmer than average. There may also be shading irregularities that affect the corners or portions of the screen that go from top to bottom, left to right, or from the outside to the inside. Variations inside the glass panel itself may produce additional irregularities."

    And here is a CNet article on LCD uniformity.

    https://www.cnet.com/news/is-lcd-and-led-lcd-hdtv-uniformity-a-problem/

    Panels vary. Either you can live with it or not. I am suggesting that just because it might not be uniform with a plain white display doesn't mean it's not suitable for everyday use.
     
  9. Farsider thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Well in the real world, when I scroll through a PDF or a webpage with a white background, the text moves from a white to a muddy yellowy white background. It's distracting and to be honest stings a little considering this machine cost me £2300.

    Of course other activities like watching video or editing photos don't display the problem. Only white backgrounds do. Unfortunately for me, a lot of the activities I perform involve white backgrounds. This makes everyday use for me an issue.

    I'm wondering if this could be the fabled 'wet bonding glue that needs time to dry' issue?
     
  10. Alicia1 macrumors regular

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    My 13" looks like yours :( I have tried to live with it the last few days but it is driving me nuts on websites with a lot of white.
     

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  11. vddobrev macrumors regular

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    Yep, agreed. However, when it is visible to the naked eye, most people will not live with it. There is no such discoloration on my 2015 MBP, or at least not visible.
     
  12. idark77 macrumors 6502

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  13. bevsb2 macrumors 65816

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    Old articles and the second is discussing TV panels. I would hope LCD tech might have improved a little in the past 5 or more years. I can see the color variations on the OP's screen and have some on my own new 15" MBPtb, but since I have been buying Apply products (2009) I've also seen a lot of perfect or near perfect screens so one shouldn't have to settle for a bad screen because a "uniform LCD screen is impossible".
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    I think the wet bonding glue that needs to dry theory has been debunked, but it doesn't hurt to give the screen a little time to see if it improves or if you can get used to it. If not I would definitely return/exchange it. I'm on my second 15" rMBPtb. The first was returned because of uneven color. The second is better but not nearly as even as the screen on my 2012 rMBP and I'm still deciding whether to try again. I really don't want to exchange it again and in every other way it is perfect and a pleasure to use.
     
  14. Farsider thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I've initiated the return process. I've lived with the issue for a few days now trying to ignore it. I've decided for £2300 I shouldn't have to accept or make peace with a screen where parts of it are yellower in places than others. Sorry to see it go but these things are too expensive not to be 100% happy with it.

    Didn't select replacement as I don't want to wait another 5 weeks.

    Thanks for the input everyone.
     
  15. bab5139 macrumors newbie

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    @Farsider - Can you mark where you see the lines in the picture? I can't see them
     
  16. Farsider thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Unfortunately not as I've only got my phone at the moment.

    Basically, it's a horizontal band left to right along the top third and bottom third of screen. It's browner/muddier than the middle.
     
  17. Obagleyfreer macrumors member

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    Damn I was hoping these 2016 might have better screens.
    And for people saying all LCD panels are uneven, that's rubbish!
    I have never ever had to replace a windows laptop for uneven screen uniformity or colour, but I've swapped my IMac 4 times and my previous macbook pro 3 times! All of them had terribly uneven screens.
    Apple, what the hell are you playing at????
     
  18. Cheese808 macrumors newbie

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    I just picked up a MBP 13 TB, same issues, but only on the bottom and somewhat on the sides.

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  19. xmonkey macrumors 6502a

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    That looks fine... some brightness decrease in the lower half, but you're not likely to find a single one that's perfect in that respect. Most importantly the color on yours looks real good.
     
  20. Cheese808, Nov 25, 2016
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    It's certainly not fine. How can you tell if the color is good from a white screen? I feel like I have a small gradient at the lower part of my screen. I do webdev, and having an accurate screen is important, especially at $1800+. I'm returning this for sure.
     
  21. mrex macrumors 68020

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    that looks abs horrible, like a cloud on the btm.
     
  22. fokmik macrumors 65816

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    yours is the best from here
     
  23. GoodOne macrumors regular

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    You don't have to get in line if your MBP is faulty and you want a replacement. I get mine exchanged for another reason and they put me on a priority list so it won't take 4 weeks. Apple is very forthcoming in These cases because they want their customers to be 100% happy.
     
  24. DMoggo macrumors regular

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    Here's mine, not perfect but I can live with it.

    Looks worse in a picture than real life.
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  25. mrex macrumors 68020

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    i hope mine will look the same as yours when it comes... looks good to me.
     

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