2016 15" MBP UI Lag

[MrGuder]

The screen and speakers on the 2016 are not cosmetic they are functional must have items that make a laptop the perfect laptop aside from performance. A majority of the buying public are not putting do it yourself repairs on the #1 list in buying the 2016. If being able to upgrade a laptop if first on your list than the 2016 is not for you but of course you already knew that right?

The screen and the speakers on the 2016 blew me out of the water. Battery life has been excellent on the iGPU and charging time is the quickest I've ever seen in a laptop. Now Touch ID and the TB are cosmetic. As with the iPhone, once you experience and live with Touch ID it's hard to live without it. The TB on the other hand, I wish never existed.

 

[monkeydax]

The screen and speakers on the 2016 are not cosmetic they are functional must have items that make a laptop the perfect laptop aside from performance. A majority of the buying public are not putting do it yourself repairs on the #1 list in buying the 2016. If being able to upgrade a laptop if first on your list than the 2016 is not for you but of course you already knew that right?

The screen and the speakers on the 2016 blew me out of the water. Battery life has been excellent on the iGPU and charging time is the quickest I've ever seen in a laptop. Now Touch ID and the TB are cosmetic. As with the iPhone, once you experience and live with Touch ID it's hard to live without it. The TB on the other hand, I wish never existed.

Does pretty much sum it up for me too.

 

[esaelias]

hello i ticked off the icloud drive and disable graphic switching and it went faster

 

[jblagden]

Can't dente the repairability, but try it out, you'll most certainly notice a difference in the performance as well for sure.

Well yeah, I’m sure it’s faster. Every generation of Intel CPUs is a little faster than its predecessor. Though you won’t notice going by the speed in GHz since the speed difference is in FLOPS. You really have to go by either FLOPs or GHz plus Instructions Per Clock.

I’m sure there’s a significant speed difference, especially since I’ve upgraded my MacBook Pro all the way from 10.7 Lion to 10.12 Sierra.

But I really like upgradability, and I don’t intend to buy another Mac until Apple goes back to making them upgradable and repairable. In the meantime, I’ll just keep going with my MacBook Pro, and when it gets too slow or dies, I’ll probably switch to Linux, possibly MX Linux. The hard part will be finding a dual drive laptop.

 

[gigapocket1]

Does anybody else Mac freezes while watching youtube videos or any video on websites

 

[LegolasWang]

Yes!

 

[jblagden]

Anybody think the User Interface lag might be due to OS code that has not been optimized?

 

[Sanpete]

Anybody think the User Interface lag might be due to OS code that has not been optimized?

That's one theory. It's not a lack of processing power, as less powerful processors do fine.

 

[David58117]

Anybody think the User Interface lag might be due to OS code that has not been optimized?

I think that's the only plausible theory (with it being a retina issue).

Large PDFs use to have tons of lag on my 15" rMBP back when they came out, while my 11" air was fine. Slowly this was fixed in updates.

UI is the same thing, I believe.

 

[MrGuder]

This was another reason why I returned my 2016 15" there was lag and several times I would get the beachball and I had to force close my safari tabs. I was also getting noticeable lag in iTunes as well. I am very concerned this has not been corrected with an update in the past 5 months. I really liked this laptop design and I really miss footprint, screen and battery life. I think at this point I should just wait till the fall although I want one now.

 

[Sanpete]

several times I would get the beachball and I had to force close my safari tabs.

Not the same as UI lag, though. (Not normal either if it was frequent. I rarely get beachballs, despite heavy use of Safari--25 tabs open now including streaming HD video in one, and no troubles.)

 

[jblagden]

That's one theory. It's not a lack of processing power, as less powerful processors do fine.

Believe it or not, that’s actually the point I’m making. The User Interface shouldn’t lag on both new and old hardware. Though, I’d also appreciate it if it didn’t lag on my 2011 MacBook Pro.

 

[MrGuder]

Not the same as UI lag, though. (Not normal either if it was frequent. I rarely get beachballs, despite heavy use of Safari--25 tabs open now including streaming HD video in one, and no troubles.)

Yes I also believe MacOS Sierra has not been optimized on this MacBook Pro. I've got a Mac mini which works smoother and has a lower processor than the MBP.

 

[jblagden]

Yes I also believe MacOS Sierra has not been optimized on this MacBook Pro. I've got a Mac mini which works smoother and has a lower processor than the MBP.

My 2011 MacBook Pro performs pretty much just as well as the newer machines, which is kind of pathetic. And that’s with a SATA Solid State Drive instead of one that uses NVME.

 

[Sterkenburg]

Anybody think the User Interface lag might be due to OS code that has not been optimized?

That's almost certainly the case. There's literally no way a current-gen MBP doesn't have enough grunt to run the UI smoothly. My 2009 C2D MBP displays smoother iTunes animations than my 2016 MBP despite the latter having a ~4x faster CPU and a ~50x faster GPU. These things are typically 100% software issues due to poor code optimization. Quite annoying, but there's nothing we can do except waiting for things to be ironed out in the next OS and app updates.

 

[Jaekae]

anyone fixed the UI lag yet? i have tried on display models in the store and all have the same lag when running on the intel gpus.. (15 inch macbook ´16)

 

[nfl46]

This may be a MacOS issue. My Late 2013 MBP runs smoother than my 2016 MBP on Sierra. I'm guessing Apple hasn't fully optimized the code for it yet. It's really weird. Maybe they are going to fix a lot of these issues with their new OS in June. We only have until June 5th to get it along with iOS 11 Beta.

 

[SoyCapitanSoyCapitan]

Yes I also believe MacOS Sierra has not been optimized on this MacBook Pro. I've got a Mac mini which works smoother and has a lower processor than the MBP.

Rendering Quartz on a Retina display is another thing. Normally takes a full macOS upgrade before the video drivers are optimal.

 

[AppleTossen]

Can users of the 2016 15" MBP confirm whether you experience UI Lag like this in Applications window similar to this video? Or comment on what other UI Lag you experience. Feel free to post your own videos too!

I am experiencing a lot of lag on my new MacBook Pro 2016 Top model.

 

[AppleTossen]

I was playing around with the 15" in at the apple store today and didn't notice anything like this.

I am having the exacts same problem on my newly bought 2016 MacBook Pro 15", i7, 16 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD. The most expensive macbook ever. And performance - much less than two year older MacBook Pro.

And what a crappy keyboard. It sounds loud, you can't feel the arrow keys and the escape key.

And that toucher ... my god - what were they thinking. Now You have to look away from the screen - to look at the touch bar - which changes layout from each app you are in - making it impossible to remember where keys are. Also the espace key is harder to find - as to before your hands just knew where it was.

Playing music from ie. iTunes. Before you could just hit a function key to advance forward/backward - turn up/down the volume. Now You have to switch to the iTunes app from the other APP you might be in - before being able to advance forward/backward.

Im really disappointed- I'v had Mac's throughout my house for many years now - but this might change in the coming years.

 

[overlof]

I won't even tell anything about my thoughts and feelings about my experience with this peace of... you know...
Just look here(while recording the videos the lag became even more evident).

I appreciate any help you may tell me, but I think that nothing could fix this.

 

[leman]

Where exactly is the UI lag in the video? If you are referring to stutter scrolling in Finder, thats a old bug in how Finder draws its contents (and I though it was fixed by now, apparently not). There seems to be some animation hiccup during the final transition and I'd bet my money that its the fault of the monitoring app you use.

 

[overlof]

Where exactly is the UI lag in the video? If you are referring to stutter scrolling in Finder, thats a old bug in how Finder draws its contents (and I though it was fixed by now, apparently not). There seems to be some animation hiccup during the final transition and I'd bet my money that its the fault of the monitoring app you use.

Maybe I am crazy, but I see lag(lowering fps) in pretty each action, like changing Desktops, scroll text, typing in IDE in this video. I worked with 2015 rMBP and see no lags here.

 

[doitdada]

This was another reason why I returned my 2016 15" there was lag and several times I would get the beachball and I had to force close my safari tabs. I was also getting noticeable lag in iTunes as well. I am very concerned this has not been corrected with an update in the past 5 months. I really liked this laptop design and I really miss footprint, screen and battery life. I think at this point I should just wait till the fall although I want one now.

I saw you earlier post that you switched from 2015 to the 2016 15". If you returned the 2016 as well, what computer are you using now?

 

[MrGuder]

I saw you earlier post that you switched from 2015 to the 2016 15". If you returned the 2016 as well, what computer are you using now?

You quoted my post back in March....I ordered a refurbished 2016 15" about 2 wks ago but this time a 2.7GHz thinking faster would eliminate the lag and beach balls. The lag in iTunes went away but I'm not sure if that was due to Sierra 10.12.4 or the most recent update to iTunes. However even with the 2.7GHz I was still experiencing lag and spinning wheels which locked up my screen, the only way to exit was close the laptop wait and it would force close. It happened numerous times so I decided today to send it back. The keyboard worked great on this one except for the spacebar which felt loose and cheap (the only key that made much noise) and it seemed to get worse in the 2 wks.

I won't be ordering any more 2016 models at this point, it's too close to June and if they update the specs I'll order again, if not I'll wait till Nov and order. I'm not sure I would get another 2015 as the 2016 is a much better model except for the issues I don't like about it. Hopefully new processors and an updated keyboard will make it a really excellent laptop.