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AllThingsWild

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I just got my new 15" machine with toolbar and the battery lasts, maybe 2 hours? Consumer Reports had said that the newest software update fixed the issue, but not for me. Any others having trouble out there? I'm giving Apple two weeks to fix this or I'm sending it back.
 

Sanpete

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I just got my new 15" machine with toolbar and the battery lasts, maybe 2 hours? Consumer Reports had said that the newest software update fixed the issue, but not for me. Any others having trouble out there? I'm giving Apple two weeks to fix this or I'm sending it back.

Read some of the discussions here for info. You'll get better results when your machine is done indexing.
 

Jefe's MacAir

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I just got my new 15" machine with toolbar and the battery lasts, maybe 2 hours? Consumer Reports had said that the newest software update fixed the issue, but not for me. Any others having trouble out there? I'm giving Apple two weeks to fix this or I'm sending it back.

The newest software update is still in Beta only. Don't know when there will be a public release. You can sign up to be a Beta tester. Maybe someone will post a link.
 

Gaprofitt

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The consumer reports issue was a safari setting no one uses anyway. It's a caching setting. I returned mine and got the XPS 15 Inch 9560, 8+ hours on the battery. Perhaps there is another update coming but I wouldn't get your hopes out.
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I'm just now seeing some past threads. Can you explain what indexing is?

It's code word for someone who doesn't know anything about computers.. He's assuming you just took it out of the box and it's indexing/building a search database. I'll translate, you're more likely to get hit by a bus than that be your battery issue..
 

Sanpete

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It's code word for someone who doesn't know anything about computers.. He's assuming you just took it out of the box and it's indexing/building a search database. I'll translate, you're more likely to get hit by a bus than that be your battery issue..

Sheer nonsense.

Speaking of which, please post your results showing 8+ hours for the XPS 9560.
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I'm just now seeing some past threads. Can you explain what indexing is?

Indexing is creating an index of files, known to be among the things that consumes battery power early on.
 

skids929

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The consumer reports issue was a safari setting no one uses anyway. It's a caching setting. I returned mine and got the XPS 15 Inch 9560, 8+ hours on the battery. Perhaps there is another update coming but I wouldn't get your hopes out.
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It's code word for someone who doesn't know anything about computers.. He's assuming you just took it out of the box and it's indexing/building a search database. I'll translate, you're more likely to get hit by a bus than that be your battery issue..



Thats funny my new MBP gets 9 hours of battery life. So you returned yours in for an inferior machine. Congrats!!

Let's just be real, you hated the price. Just be honest with yourself at least.
 
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AllThingsWild

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Thats funny my new MBP gets 9 hours of battery life. So you returned yours in for an inferior machine. Congrats!!

Let's just be real, you hated the price. Just be honest with yourself at least.

Please be civil with one another... I might order a new machine and try that but it makes me wonder if that would be a waste of time.
 

skids929

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Please be civil with one another... I might order a new machine and try that but it makes me wonder if that would be a waste of time.


I think you need to be patient..Order a new one if you feel there is something wrong or take it to Apple, then tweak it so the battery will last a little longer. Screen brightness, shut off Siri, use Safari only and add Ghostery to it, turn off keyboard backlight and autobrightness, turn off notifications. Things like that will help, and I think there is a break in period for the machines, mine seemed to improve over time.
 

skids929

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4k, kaby lake, quad core, 97 kwhr battery
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78 < 97


Specs are great aren't they? Overall they are meaningless when the software that controls that hardware is crap.

And the hardware is also inferior. So your point is moot.
 
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AllThingsWild

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Specs are great aren't they? Overall they are meaningless when the software that controls that hardware is crap.

And the hardware is also inferior. So your point is moot.

I'm activity calling Apple back and forth and working with an engineer on this. I created a new admin login (void of any third party applications, etc) and doing regular browsing with Safari with page caching turned off and discharging at a rate of between 12 and 19 watts. This seems very high.
 

skids929

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I'm activity calling Apple back and forth and working with an engineer on this. I created a new admin login (void of any third party applications, etc) and doing regular browsing with Safari with page caching turned off and discharging at a rate of between 12 and 19 watts. This seems very high.


Well I think you are doing the right thing. Let them handle it and see the outcome. Then you can make a decision from there. Wish you the best the machine is great if you can get it working right.
 

AllThingsWild

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Well I think you are doing the right thing. Let them handle it and see the outcome. Then you can make a decision from there. Wish you the best the machine is great if you can get it working right.

I love the machine otherwise. This seems to be a software issue. It's not playing nice
 
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MrGuder

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Why don't you post up some of screen captures from your activity monitor showing your poor results and please make them from your laptop.
 
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AllThingsWild

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So I just installed OS Beta 10.12.3 and there seems to be less drain, all else equal. I'm now running between 6 - 14 watts with only Safari running. I'd say it's much better, but still needs to improvement.
 
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Turpentine222

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So I just installed OS Beta 10.12.3 and there seems to be less drain, all else equal. I'm now running between 6 - 14 watts with only Safari running. I'd say it's much better, but still needs to improvement.

If that's with brightness around 70%-75%, then yes, it should be better. However, as you increase brightness from there, the power drain skyrockets.
 

Wegmans

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Thats funny my new MBP gets 9 hours of battery life. So you returned yours in for an inferior machine. Congrats!!

Let's just be real, you hated the price. Just be honest with yourself at least.

I have to call BS on this... My new MBP 13 inch gets only a few hours of battery life. I was showing pictures to family with Apple TV and after an hour my comp was at 55%. Unacceptable! Even when just browsing the internet it gets knocked down quickly. Maybe mine is faulty but there are so many others that I think it's the norm.
 

skids929

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I have to call BS on this... My new MBP 13 inch gets only a few hours of battery life. I was showing pictures to family with Apple TV and after an hour my comp was at 55%. Unacceptable! Even when just browsing the internet it gets knocked down quickly. Maybe mine is faulty but there are so many others that I think it's the norm.


So I am a liar? Or I am delusional? Instead of calling BS on something you should be politely asking questions as to how I am getting that....Honestly the posts from people on this forum never cease to amaze me.

Let's do this..Why on EARTH would I lie? What would be a motivation to lie about the performance of my $2200 laptop? I'd be pissed if it didn't meet my needs trust me.

Your experience isn't going to be the same as mine. If you were using airplay that will use more battery life. When I say 9 hours thats light use, open close lids for days before I hook up to the wall again. Maybe yours is a lemon, take it to apple.
 

AllThingsWild

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So I am a liar? Or I am delusional? Instead of calling BS on something you should be politely asking questions as to how I am getting that....Honestly the posts from people on this forum never cease to amaze me.

Let's do this..Why on EARTH would I lie? What would be a motivation to lie about the performance of my $2200 laptop? I'd be pissed if it didn't meet my needs trust me.

Your experience isn't going to be the same as mine. If you were using airplay that will use more battery life. When I say 9 hours thats light use, open close lids for days before I hook up to the wall again. Maybe yours is a lemon, take it to apple.
So I am a liar? Or I am delusional? Instead of calling BS on something you should be politely asking questions as to how I am getting that....Honestly the posts from people on this forum never cease to amaze me.

Let's do this..Why on EARTH would I lie? What would be a motivation to lie about the performance of my $2200 laptop? I'd be pissed if it didn't meet my needs trust me.

Your experience isn't going to be the same as mine. If you were using airplay that will use more battery life. When I say 9 hours thats light use, open close lids for days before I hook up to the wall again. Maybe yours is a lemon, take it to apple.

Are you considering opening and closing your screen throughout the day as part of your battery drain time tally? I'm still not convinced that Apple was wasn't completely delusional or misleading about their stated battery time. I buy a new computer every 7-8 years and this laptop is supposed to take me well into the future so I want to make sure this iteration can take me there before my return period runs out. For starters, the battery capacity in mAH is smaller than previous models and they have added features that drain the battery further. The processor can't be that much more efficient to compensate for this plus yield more run time as advertised. All the talk about software updates making the big difference seems like a distraction when the battery itself is so small! Has anyone gone through these steps with any luck? http://www.consumerreports.org/laptops/how-to-fix-the-macbook-pro-battery-problem/
 
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chfilm

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Actually I opened a dedicated thread for my question, but I wanted to ask here anyways. If you use coconut battery to read out the battery data.. what kind of mAh usage values do you guys get on average? With my basic flatline of about 690 mAh I can never get to 10 hours of battery life with this device..
 

AllThingsWild

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What do you mean by flatline? My design capacity is stated to be 6669. It only charges to 6580...
[doublepost=1484873024][/doublepost]Another interesting observation is the charge % in coconut battery is about 7% lower than what Apple's menu says.
 
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