2016 MacBook Pro Denied Recommendation From Consumer Reports Due to Battery Life Inconsistencies

[latweek]

shill
SHil/
NORTH AMERICANinformal
noun

1. an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others.

verb

1. act or work as a shill.

 

[A-Sign]

While my work Lenovo laptop is absolutely wonderful in design, function and durability (also has ports!). And if the new iMacs aren't something stellar I will be jumping ship since all I need is a powerful machine to run Lightroom and PS.

I am also using Lightroom and PS as a Photographer with a Nikon D600. Already switched on my pre-2012 Mac Pro to Windows 10 a few months ago and it does the job really good. Better than El Capitan on a Mac Mini 2011 (feels a lot slower than Snow Leopard on any older machine). The quality of OS X is going down since the fathers of this OS have left the building because the direction of Apple turned the wrong way (these guys came along with Steve Jobs from NeXT Computers to Apple: Scott Forstall, Bertrand Serlet). How can a company still develop great products if great engineers are jumping ship in the software and hardware division of Apple?

 

[deany]

Steve cared about the outside as much as the inside of apple devices.
New apple care more about the outside than the inside.
'Beauty is only skin deep'
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/Beauty+is+only+skin+deep

External attractiveness has no relation to goodness or essential quality. This maxim was first stated by Sir Thomas Overbury in his poem "A Wife" (1613): "All the carnall beauty of my wife is but skin-deep."

 

[smoledman]

Since when is Consumer Reports an authority on anything? They're just another I-hate-Apple site. Screw 'em.
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The irony is that not a single person on this planet complained the 2015 was too thick. I haven't met anybody online or offline who said they wished it was thinner. Yet they trimmed it down along with the battery.

Everything continues to get thinner & lighter. To argue that computers shouldn't is a Luddite approach to thinking. Frankly I'm ashamed to see this kind of 'comment' on MacRumors.
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Consumer Reports...should say everything we need to know.

Yup, trash media.
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It doesn't matter whether Consumer Report recommends the new Macbook Pros or not, people will still go out and buy them anyway.

Exactly. Apple is reporting record sales of the new Macbook Pros. Apple continues delighting their customers much to the chagrin of the Apple-hating media.

 

[deany]

Rubbish ^

 

[A-Sign]

Since when is Consumer Reports an authority on anything? They're just another I-hate-Apple site. Screw 'em.

Ah! You are spreading the same arrogance as the Apple VPs. Believe it or not: More and more long-term Apple Macintosh customers are upset with the current Apple strategy. And you can read this everywhere - not only here on MacRumors. Even german IT magazines are not amazed by this new MacBook Pro 2016 and many YouTube reviewers aren't either. And the best: No one of the Apple customers have asked Apple to make their hardware even thinner - it is counter-productive to make everything as thin as it can get. But the Apple of today is more about design instead of design, functionality and performance.

 

[smoledman]

Ah! You are spreading the same arrogance as the Apple VPs. Believe it or not: More and more long-term Apple Macintosh customers are upset with the current Apple strategy. And you can read this everywhere - not only here on MacRumors. Even german IT magazines are not amazed by this new macbook pro 2016 and many YouTube reviewers aren't either. And the best: No one of the Apple customers has asked Apple to make their hardware even thinner - it is counter-productive to make everything as thin as it can get. But the Apple of today is more about design instead of design, functionality and performance.

Even if new MBP has flaws it's still 1000x better than any Windows laptop.

 

[A-Sign]

Even if new MBP has flaws it's still 1000x better than any Windows laptop.

Bulls*it! This is like saying Canon is better than Nikon if you're talking about professional photo gear. The difference isn't that big anymore. It is a matter of personal preference but both get the job done if you don't buy the entry-level crap.

 

[ryannel2003]

My nTB MacBook Pro has been great over the last 2 months. Battery life has always been above 10 hours, the display is perfect and the build is the best yet from an Apple laptop.

 

[smoledman]

Bulls*it! This is like saying Canon is better than Nikon if you're talking about professional photo gear. The difference isn't that big anymore. It is a matter of personal preference but both get the job done if you don't buy the entry-level crap.

For people who rely on MacOS to get through college, professional life any Mac is a trillion times better.
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My nTB MacBook Pro has been great over the last 2 months. Battery life has always been above 10 hours, the display is perfect and the build is the best yet from an Apple laptop.

I suspect 99% of actual MBP owners report similar results. It's just the 1% are very very noisy on forums.

 

[dogslobber]

I dont think Phil Schiller is a good salesman / marketer, quite the opposite actually.

He must be good at something if he joined Apple when they were in the gutter and it is now one of the top handful of companies in the world!

 

[A-Sign]

For people who rely on MacOS to get through college,

Most important software is cross-platform - i can get it for MacOS and Windows these days. So no - i don't need to rely on MacOS. And i was a satisfied Mac User from 2003 starting with Mac OS X 10.2 Jaguar on a PowerMac G5. But the Apple of today is not the Apple once i have loved in the past...

 

[smoledman]

I''ll take any Apple executive over Dell/HP/Lenovo.
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Most important software is cross-platform - i can get it for MacOS and Windows these days. So no - i don't need to rely on MacOS. And i was a satisfied Mac User from 2003 starting with Mac OS X 10.2 Jaguar on a PowerMac G5. But the Apple of today is not the Apple once i have loved in the past...

It's not just that software is cross platform. People prefer better hardware, stable OS, no forced updates, Apple ecosystem.

 

[dogslobber]

Since when is Consumer Reports an authority on anything? They're just another I-hate-Apple site. Screw 'em.

They're impartial. I'm not quite sure why so many are confused by this. What I will add is that CR is one of the media brand names that you want on your side because when they're not then people sit up and take notice.
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Even if new MBP has flaws it's still 1000x better than any Windows laptop.

But that's irrelevant, innit? Apple laptops are judged on that which they replace and the 2015 V 2016 MBP comparison is a first round knockout to the older competitor.

 

[A-Sign]

He must be good at something if he joined Apple when they were in the gutter and it is now one of the top handful of companies in the world!

Best presentation and marketing skills are clearly owned by Steve Jobs as you can see at any Apple keynote - not Phil Schiller. Phil Schiller had always a small role on those keynotes. And Phil is talking too much rubbish these days. Did you heard his reasoning about killing the SD Card slot and not removing the headphone jack? That was just silly hearing a person talking which doesn't have any clue about how professional users are working with their Apple equipment.

 

[Jodie1987]

Ill be sticking to my microsoft surface book until they release a macbook pro which sounds like its worth the money

 

[Martyimac]

Enjoying watching the deniers talk about how it's okay to want everything to get smaller and lighter. I suspect they weren't around to watch Nokia start its death spiral with one of their small and light cell phone. The one that was about 3" long, uncomfortable to hold, got hot while using and had horrible battery life. All because everyone thought they wanted smaller and lighter. The Nokia 8210. I had one, ended up hating it. To small.
And now Apple seems to be going down the same road. Smaller and lighter for the sake of being smaller and lighter.

 

[A-Sign]

It's not just that software is cross platform. People prefer better hardware, stable OS, no forced updates, Apple ecosystem.

None of these points are an issue on Windows either if you don't buy cheap crap hardware. But these arguments can only be written from someone that doesn't know what he is talking about. Did you know how many companies are running Windows? If that would be such a big trouble as you want it to make it look like they couldn't use it for the daily business. And don't forget: Office, database (SQL) and Server software is still where Microsoft is leading. Even Linux can take the job for Servers - Apple? Not anymore.

 

[smoledman]

None of these points are an issue on Windows either if you don't buy cheap crap hardware. But these arguments can only be written from someone that doesn't know what he is talking about. Did you know how many companies are running Windows? If that would be such a big trouble as you want it to make it look like they couldn't use it for the daily business. And don't forget: Office, database (SQL) and Server software is still where Microsoft is leading. Even Linux can take the job for Servers - Apple? Not anymore.

Windows doesn't have a viable phone platform. Because many people own iPhones they can take advantage of iCloud & Continuity. That is priceless.

 

[jeyf]

mentioned this site; macRumors, was a Bloomberg article that the current MBP design was a dated second choice fall back after a failed integrated battery effort failed in design. Apple did not want to miss the 2016 Christmas sales. So they have a junk product for this years Christmas.

no one is really interested in smaller lighter for a clam shell portable computer any more.

 

[smoledman]

mentioned this site; macRumors, was a Bloomberg article that the current MBP design was a dated second choice fall back after a failed integrated battery effort failed in design. Apple did not want to miss the 2016 Christmas sales. So they have a junk product for this years Christmas.

no one is really interested in smaller lighter for a clam shell portable computer any more.

"No one" except for the millions who have already bought one.

 

[masteroflondon]

Enjoying watching the deniers talk about how it's okay to want everything to get smaller and lighter. I suspect they weren't around to watch Nokia start its death spiral with one of their small and light cell phone. The one that was about 3" long, uncomfortable to hold, got hot while using and had horrible battery life. All because everyone thought they wanted smaller and lighter. The Nokia 8210. I had one, ended up hating it. To small.
And now Apple seems to be going down the same road. Smaller and lighter for the sake of being smaller and lighter.

I loved the 8210. My favourite phone, I think. pre iPhone.

 

[A-Sign]

Windows doesn't have a viable phone platform. Because many people own iPhones they can take advantage of iCloud & Continuity. That is priceless.

Again: Windows 10 runs on Desktop, Tablet and Smartphone hardware. All with the same code base! Write it once and run it everywhere - switch seamlessly between Desktop and Tablet mode using a Micorosft Surface - it can be a Laptop or Tablet all in one device while at Apple you have to sync your stuff between an iPad and MacBook - that is cumbersome. Cloud? There is Dropbox, Microsoft OneDrive, Google Drive - but this Cloud stuff is for consumers and not for Professionals. You can sync your address book and calendar with Google services accross your Desktop, Tablet and Phone. iPhone sales have lost a lot of market share due to Android. And you know why? Because Android was more open and allowed licensing - basically Google repeated everything what Microsoft did at the PC sector using Linux-based software. The iPhone was a huge success in 2007 but today you can choose from a lot of manufacturers that are delivering the same features and functionality - where is the iPhone leading today?

 

[smoledman]

Again: Windows 10 runs on Desktop, Tablet and Smartphone hardware. All with the same code base! Write it once and run it everywhere - switch seamlessly between Desktop and Tablet mode using a Micorosft Surface - it can be a Laptop or Tablet all in one device while at Apple you have to sync your stuff between an iPad and MacBook - that is cumbersome. Cloud? There is Dropbox, Microsoft OneDrive, Google Drive - but this Cloud stuff is for consumers and not for Professionals. You can sync your address book and calendar with Google services accross your Desktop, Tablet and Phone. iPhone sales have lost a lot of market share due to Android. And you know why? Because Android was more open and allowed licensing - basically Google repeated everything what Microsoft did at the PC sector using Linux-based software. The iPhone was a huge success in 2007 but today you can choose from a lot of manufacturers that are delivering the same features and functionality - where is the iPhone leading today?

Except UWP is not a 'thing'. Probably never will be. Windows 10 is a promise of a future that will never happen. Whereas iOS + macOS is a 'thing' right now.

 

[A-Sign]

Except UWP is not a 'thing'. Probably never will be. Windows 10 is a promise of a future that will never happen. Whereas iOS + macOS is a 'thing' right now.

Haha. Funny fanboy speech. Sorry, don't need to add more.