Stop. You work with Ives design team dont you. No other explanation for your completely uncritical support of absolutely everything apple does
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2016 MacBook Pro Denied Recommendation From Consumer Reports Due to Battery Life Inconsistencies
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Stop. You work with Ives design team dont you. No other explanation for your completely uncritical support of absolutely everything apple does
Half a pound in weight lost but "inconsistent" battery is the result? Color me unimpressed.
Qualcomm quick charge is a thing, you know. Also, the legal limit for a built in battery is 99WHrs. Like the one in the Razer blade pro. Now, if this thread is any indication:
http://www.apple.com/shop/question/...ook-pro-with-retina-display/QY2HUH4YD2XK922KD
It takes a rough estimate of at the very most 2 hours to charge a 2015 15in. Macbook Pro. That one has a 74.9 Whr. battery. Now, if you add 25 more WHrs to that to get to the legal limit, that is if my math isn't failing me, one third extra capacity, right?
So, 120 minutes * 1 1/3 = 160 minutes, right? 160 minutes, according to wolfram alpha, is
Which is decidedly less than 20 to 30 hours. And this is without featuring any form of Quick Charge. Now, perhaps my math is incorrect, but the charge time will still be much less than what you are alluding to.
Give me a 3 hour charge for battery life that I can actually use any day, not just refreshing a static page on safari endlessly and call it productivity.
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I understand where you're coming from. I have my own frustration with Apple and other companies as well, but you have to be able to live in a world where others show their affection for something that you don't like but they do. It's not just an Apple product. It's everything. Otherwise, you'll go through life being annoyed at almost everything and everyone. That's why people say "to each his own". If I don't like something but others like it, fine, good for them. I'm moving on with my life and find something that fit me. If you don't find anything that Apple sells then you have the choice of getting products from the competition.
No, but the new MacBook Pro is about the most Jobs thing they've done post Jobs and if you can't see that you didn't know Jobs and certainly haven't read his book (probably too busy aggressively trolling nonsense online)
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And again, this along with your silly comment about "dongles" just goes to show you haven't used one at all and you're just here to troll and repeat the silly kiddy cliches.
Look like I get 4.5-5 hrs normal web browsing with brightness at ~40%
Up from 3 hours with brightness at 75-80%
Still a far cry from 10 hours.
You are confused. I never stated my opinion on whether or not a Macbook Pro can meet the needs of a pro user. I'm not the one you originally replied to.
I didn't think I would have to explain it at this minute detail, but:
Those first two bolded sentences are opinions. Agreed?
"many pros love it", "reviews are positive", "tons of reviews" - somebody's view of 'many' or 'positive' or 'tons' may differ from another's. Agreed?
So those statements are not facts. Agreed? A factual statement would be '45/50 reviews I read gave 3 or more stars out of 5'. So...
...that only leaves the reviews referenced, in those bold phrases, as possibly being factual to support your reference to facts in "Sorry, but facts don't care about your feelings." Again, no facts so far in this breakdown.
But "Reviews aren't facts," so there are no facts anywhere in your bolded assertion - neither the statements themselves nor the content referenced in them are facts about suitability as a "pro" machine. The only facts in reviews are tech specs, release dates, etc - not some agreed upon definition of "pro" and the Pro's matching suitability.
Thus, the simple assertion "Reviews aren't facts" - which you seem to agree with - disproves your post.
Hope that helps.
i thought with the latest update the battery life has improved? it's annoying as my MacBook pro retina as good as it is i have basically no space left as has just 128GB..i want the new one but battery life concerns is a big pain in the behind.
My opinion, which is all you have posted, is that this is the least Jobs thing they have done post Jobs.
I have tried out the new keyboard, and like many others I don't care for it. As to dongles, I made sure to buy a recent laptop that I don't have to use any dongles with since all the ports I used from my old 2009 MBP are still available. This article is a good take on buying decisions, http://lifehacker.com/how-to-program-your-mind-to-stop-buying-crap-you-don-t-1690268064
Lastly, you are obviously upset at the amount of negative comments in this, and other posts. Sorry, luckily I find the negative comments to be tidbits of information that can help me make an informed decision.
I never questioned the Apple tax under Jobs. Now I am under Cook. If I'm spending upwards of $3000 on a machine that advertises 10 hour battery life it damn well better have 10 hour battery life.
I often get a similar feeling "you play ball with us and we'll play ball with you, but don't forget it's our ball we're playing with"!
I honestly don't care what people write - it's just they're totally wrong about the keyboard, everybody who owns one agrees its the best keyboard they've ever typed on - some take a day or two to get used to it, others like it instantly - I was the former. It's like the Magic Keyboard but better. It's far better than the old MacBook Pro keyboard (and its also far better than the MacBook keyboard).
Funnily enough I need a lot less "dongles" and adapters now than I did with the 2015 rMBP. I need 3 USB ports to DJ, the old one only had 2, which meant I had to use a USB hub just to plug them in - not anymore, now I've got access to 4 so they can all be directly plugged in (with a cable that goes in, in either direction, handy in the dark DJ booth!). When i'm at my desk I can sit down and plug in with one single USB-C cable which provides gigabit ethernet and power to the computer which are hidden under the desk. Before I had to plug in an Thunderbolt 2 dongle to Gigabit Ethernet and a separate power cable.
There are actual legitimate concerns, like the battery life, I have a noisy trackpad that needs to be repaired, my friend has graphics problems not fixed by the update. The trolls don't talk about these because they're too busy pushing out non-truths about keyboards, the far superior USB-C/dongles and heat throttling, the later the most ironic has all tests show just how much worse the 2015 MacBook Pro is for it - the new design allows the more efficient Skylake chip to run at full speed with no throttling and a lot cooler (with fans only on half speed).
I don't care if people want to buy one or not, I just can't abide people talking nonsense about technology and continually pushing out incorrect myths the sort which get peddled on memes by morons.
And on that note, have a very Merry Christmas no matter which computer you're using.
i had apple replace my 15inch mbp touchbar after a lot of complaining. When the replacement arrived first thing i did was time machine old one to new one, then charged to full on both machines. unplugged the charger and ran a identical video on both machines full screen and everything the same brightness etc etc.
The old one lasted for 4 hours before running out of battery and the new one was on 60% remaining so there clearly is a bunch of machines out there with dicky batteries
The old one lasted for 4 hours before running out of battery and the new one was on 60% remaining so there clearly is a bunch of machines out there with dicky batteries
I really have to point out something. When folks deal in absolutes, like your comment "it's just they're totally wrong about the keyboard, everybody who owns one agrees its the best keyboard they've ever typed on " Somebody is going to chime and and tell you that your are wrong. And you are, there are numerous posts here on MR about OWNERS not liking the keyboard. As to trolls not talking about legitimate concerns, again you make an absolute statement that is wrong. Again, plenty of of threads right here in river city about battery life, Your comment/concern BTW (the thread we are in for example), graphics problems ( this one is up to 660 posts -- https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/graphic-card-freaks-out-with-brand-new-mbp-2016.2015545/) . So folks are going to disagree with you, like me, or just ignore you. In my case, you have already demonstrated where you are coming from so I will not take any of your comments/recommendations seriously.
But yes, I hope you too have a Merry Christmas no matter how many dongles you use.
The battery problem has/is being reported by many, all over the internet. Up until this CR report, the only thing Apple did, was to remove the meter so people would not realize there IS a problem. Laughable!! Thank you CR, for making this an issue. Seems you finally got someone at Apple to come out of their ivory tower to actually do something about this.
It really isn't. It is a reward program for recommending Time Warner. I built up a lot of points so I decided to get things I can sell.
The job itself pretty much sucks
You've got some truth here for sure...but what I'd like is Apple to be transparent about it...I wrote a whole bunch of other stuff about what that would mean, but if what you say is true, what's the point. The people who are saying then Apple isn't for you and then go buy a pc may have a point. It's a hard transition to make when you have loved your mac laptops for so long.
I'm going to be totally honest about the i7:
1. I got it because unless I wanted to wait for a BTO configuration it was what they had in stock with 16GB of RAM.
2. I justified it to myself because I wanted a processor over 3GHz and I wanted a 7 and not 5 for...
I seriously doubt for my use I would notice, but without experience with a slower machine I have no idea. I probably didn't need it though. Lol.
They threw it, and got nothing but net; because the late 2016 MacBook Pro is an amazing computer.
How do you reconcile your statement with the CR report? It's not like CR has it out for Apple - this is the first MBP that didn't receive a "recommended" rating. There are many other issues with the decisions on the MBP, but even worse is the declining trend in Apple's computer business - a self-inflicted wound. The list is lengthy and dates back several years. I was ready to buy a new Mac Mini a couple of years ago but when they released it as an overpriced, highly limited and downgraded computer from the 2012 model, I chose instead to build a hackintosh with an Intel NUC for half the cost of the closest Mini. Even their software is going down the toilet - Final Cut is weak sauce, Aperture is gone (for the crapware "Photos" app), and even Pages, which is still significantly weaker than Pages 09 fours years after its release! All in the name of "integration" with the Holy iDevices. The "leaders" of Apple (Cook, Ive, Shiller, et al.) have dumbed-down the Mac experience and have lost sight of their long-term goal (making money), and in doing so have alienated a large number of loyal Apple consumers.
This is a pretty scathing comment. Personally, I would not go this far. However, after living a lifetime in the computer industry, seeing sooo many companies come into and out of favor(and many, belly up), even living through watching Apple reach great heights, then a few years later on the verge of bankruptcy, and now back again at dizzying heights(have to wonder if they are just living off of Jobs creations), Apple's great success right now, I would say, is tenuous(at least in the computer arena). Another company that has gone through tremendous success, then back sliding, and now seems to be catching up to Apple, is Microsoft. Not a fan of their products(yet) but the surface book sure appears to be more innovative than the present MacBook Pro. I am heavily invested in the Apple eco-system so hoping they can pull out of it, but....this industry is , so full of change, it does not take much for another company to out maneuver(by becoming more innovative than Apple) and knock them down a few pegs. But I would not count them out...yet. Glad CR rattled their cage. Hopefully in the next 3/4 months they will fix all the deficiencies being reported and I can re-consider buying this again. But, definitely, not now!
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