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What is a touch bar and what will it be used for?

I could be OK with an OLED. If those are the ones on the Samsung phones, then I wouldn't mind. The saturation and colors are very vivid and saturated, but I kind of like it, something to get used to.

Touch ID would be cool if it works well. The first time Apple did Touch ID I don't think it worked well just from reading on this forum. Now on the iPhone 6s models it's pretty good, no complaints.
 
Please, please! give us back the option: "Save as" from the menu: file...

Think different, yes, but please, consider also the users...
 
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For once, Apple, DON'T make the Pro thinner. Make it quieter/cooler instead. For once! I'm so tired of my current MBP being a vacuum cleaner/oven every time I so much as watch a Youtube video. We DON'T need thinner in the Pro line! Save that for the Macbook line, the Air line.

This is why the Admiral does not use a MacBook Pro. Yes, the Retina MacBook is a bit underpowered and I sure would like more ports, but having made the move away from heat and noise I am never, ever going back. Silent computing is totally the way to go.
 
Please, please! give us back the option: "Save as" from the menu: file...

Think different, yes, but please, consider also the users...

When in the file menu press alt and voila! :)
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Mate. The MacBook Pro is a laptop.
2.5hrs battery life and not interested in portability. Perhaps you don't need a laptop.

Mate. The last two years my work took me to the Netherlands, Portugal, Kazakhstan, Uruguay, Australia, Mexico, Korea, US, Brazil and Suriname. Mobile enough for ya? I need a machine I can lug around AND be super fast. This is what the "pro" label suggests but does not deliver.

Google mobile workstation, look at the specs and you'll see that the win based laptops are much much faster than the maxed out MBP's. Ergo, it is possible but apple is not doing it. Frustrating.
 
as long as i can put 32 GB ram, 1 TB SSD, retina display and 10 hour battery life with a decent GPU below 2 kg, i dont care about thinness and all the c*ap.
 
Two kilograms? Is this the Army or something? I really like carrying just 950 grams around now that I've gotten used to the retina MacBook.
 
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Two kilograms? Is this the Army or something? I really carrying just 950 grams.
lol. im carrying late 2011 model. i think its 2.25 kg. what i meant is that i am happy with the weight if the new space can give me longer battery.
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Two kilograms? Is this the Army or something? I really like carrying just 950 grams around now that I've gotten used to the retina MacBook.
btw there is a lot of hate for the macbook keyboard. i tried it and didnt like it. do u need time to get used to it? or something else??
 
I'm ready to ruck up if I have to, but would rather not.
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btw there is a lot of hate for the macbook keyboard. i tried it and didnt like it. do u need time to get used to it? or something else??

Just a paradigm shift. You need to get out of the habit of pounding those mashed-potato keys of the earlier MacBooks and apply light pressure. It takes just a few days use to get into the swing of things and then no problem at all. As for me, I'm so glad to have shed the weight, heat, and noise and cannot imagine using a heavy, testes-baking hotplate computer with an angry fan ever again.
 
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If Steve Jobs were alive now he'd be screaming in his grave at this post.

If anything he would probably agree with the post, after all Tim Cook was the man Steve Jobs had chosen to be CEO. Tim get's a lot of flack but i don't think he's doing a bad job at all.
 
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Do you guys think that when I fire up Kerbal space the keys will change to little animated icons? The launch rocket one will show a rocket launching, the detach stage will show the appropriate animation, Eva etc... Will shooters show the exact weapon you are switching to? I hope it's not just a dock.
 
thinner and lighter form factor
OH F*** OFF.

I want a MacBook PRO, that is I want performance. If I want an ultra-thin and light laptop I'll buy a MacBook Air or MacBook.

Unless they can cram a GTX 970M (or 1070M when that comes) or similar into that form factor, that form factor is a huge disappointment.
 
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Two kilograms? Is this the Army or something? I really like carrying just 950 grams around now that I've gotten used to the retina MacBook.

Yep. A MacBook replaced my 2013 rMBP for daily work duties here and abroad. The rMBP sits at home in my studio for when I need CPU power with Cubase and VST plugins.
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When in the file menu press alt and voila! :)
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Mate. The last two years my work took me to the Netherlands, Portugal, Kazakhstan, Uruguay, Australia, Mexico, Korea, US, Brazil and Suriname. Mobile enough for ya? I need a machine I can lug around AND be super fast. This is what the "pro" label suggests but does not deliver.

Google mobile workstation, look at the specs and you'll see that the win based laptops are much much faster than the maxed out MBP's. Ergo, it is possible but apple is not doing it. Frustrating.

What do you do that requires more than a 2.8ghz quad i7 when you are on the road?
Just asking cause my 2013 2.3 quad i7 can lift a shed load of VST plugins in Cubase or AUs in Logic where the CPU load is constant and critical.

Did a Google search. Didn't find many faster than 2.8gHz i7s. One with a quad Xeon!
 
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btw there is a lot of hate for the macbook keyboard. i tried it and didnt like it. do u need time to get used to it? or something else??

If you hunt and peck, you'll get used to it pretty fast. If you touch type, it's completely unusable, it's not that different from trying to touch type on an iPad screen except you have a little (very little) bit of help finding where the keys are without looking.
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What do you do that requires more than a 2.8ghz quad i7 when you are on the road?
Just asking cause my 2013 2.3 quad i7 can lift a shed load of VST plugins in Cubase or AUs in Logic where the CPU load is constant and critical.

Here's a better question for you. Why do you think the MacBook, MacBook Air, and MacBook pro should all sacrifice everything in favour of smaller cubic volume and lower weight?

What is the difference between a MacBook and MacBook pro if they're both gimped little toys? Why should the fact that a MacBook purchaser wants a thinner computer mean I shouldn't have a decent CPU in my MacBook Pro?

Why would someone who wants a super light toy ever buy a MacBook Pro over a MacBook anyway, so why should their preferences have any impact on the MacBook Pro?
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When in the file menu press alt and voila! :)

I never knew about that, so thank you.

Is there a way to figure out where on the hard drive a file I see in a finder window (or spotlight search) is? So far I've been using a terminal window and the unix "find" command.

Remember when you could just pick up a mac and everything felt so natural and intuitive you knew where the controls were just because of course they should be there?
 
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Hopefully a delay until the end of the year would mean the new MBPs will also include Optane and Kaby Lake!!
That would be a miracle, but sadly my faith is lost in Apple, at least for the MBP since we've been disappointed continuously since 2012 almost.
 
Frankly - i would kiss my wife and keep them both (the 13" and the wife ;)) The new MacBook will be 5% faster and have USB-C - so what? Is it worth to disappoint the wife? Maybe my personal math works different but 'Happy wife - happy life'. I would not dare to risc that equation for less than 10% benefit :)
Yeah, you're right. Even before reading your reply here, I told her I was keeping it.

I said at the end of the day, it's the best MBP Apple has made of that line of MBPs, so I've got the best of the best.
 
Here's a better question for you. Why do you think the MacBook, MacBook Air, and MacBook pro should all sacrifice everything in favour of smaller cubic volume and lower weight?

Because they are all laptops...portable computers. Of course designers should strive towards reducing the weight of mobile devices. Desktops can be different. But each design is a balancing act between weight, battery life, power and portability. I don't see how making a new model thinner than the old model means "sacrificing everything".

What is the difference between a MacBook and MacBook pro if they're both gimped little toys? Why should the fact that a MacBook purchaser wants a thinner computer mean I shouldn't have a decent CPU in my MacBook Pro?

Neither are "gimped little toys". The new MacBook functions as my main computer at work. I love it. It is snappy. Light enough to carry everywhere with my notebook and drawings. Does everything I need except Revit. That needs Windows and quite frankly a PC.

I have a 2013 rMBP which is no gimped little toy either. Since being retired from my office it's the heart of my recording studio.

Before the rMBP I had a 2012 non retina MBP. (I still have it). But get this...the new redesign provided something thinner, lighter AND faster! Can you believe it?? That's what will happen with the next redesign. You seem stuck on the notion that thinner means slower. Where did that come from?

Why would someone who wants a super light toy ever buy a MacBook Pro over a MacBook anyway, so why should their preferences have any impact on the MacBook Pro?
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If someone wants the lightest possible they would buy the MacBook. Unless they want/need something more powerful.

If the current rMBPs were lighter than my 2013 model I would have bought a MBP instead of the MB. But they aren't. They are the same weight as 3 years ago...I wanted something lighter to carry to work each day, so a MBP was out of the running.

If the new MacBook Pros coming out are thinner, another .5kg lighter and faster than the current model, then I'd likely buy one and sell my MacBook and 2013 rMBP.

its a no brainer. The next redesign of the MBP WILL be thinner, lighter AND faster. I just hope they up the Ram to 16gb on the base model since it's not going to be user upgradable...
 
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At this point, exactly what is Apple waiting for? I've heard it's based on Intel's schedule, but exactly what part is still not out that they need to make skylake MBP/MBA's?
 
I think it makes sense to introduce a touch pad on the Macbook, but the location cited here seems wrong. There's so much more ability to input information from a touchscreen, but previous computer companies have gotten it wrong by making the primary screen the touch area. Imagine the possibilities, however, if an OLED replaced the trackpad. Different functions could be placed there depending on the application in use. For a word processing app, you could have sections corresponding to bold, italic, etc. For a photo editor, common brushes or editing functions placed along the borders of the track pad. You could even incorporate force touch to bring up contextual menus. And all of this replacing an area that has a relative paucity of functions.

Another potential area would be to the sides of the track pad, but there you run into all the issues with unintentional touches.
 
Can someone explain why we want USB-C? Does that mean the thing is _powered_ by USB-C, or just that it has a port?
 
What is a touch bar and what will it be used for?

I could be OK with an OLED. If those are the ones on the Samsung phones, then I wouldn't mind. The saturation and colors are very vivid and saturated, but I kind of like it, something to get used to.

Touch ID would be cool if it works well. The first time Apple did Touch ID I don't think it worked well just from reading on this forum. Now on the iPhone 6s models it's pretty good, no complaints.

If I had to guess it would function like the old optimus maximus keyboards:

http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/

Basically you can assign any key and any picture to the oled display(s). Other laptop companies have done this.

It would be an okay gimmick but not something with very long term appeal.
 
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