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Been mis-clicking in on the ESC and Siri button the entire time, and its starting to get frustrated.

Same thing with the giant touchpad, I have to force myself to elevate high enough to prevent the mouse arrow not doing some random click or moving around as I type.

Honestly think that Apple didn't do enough UX for the 2016+ model.

Also find it to be odd that they put up a fake speaker grill design that doesn't do anything.
 
I already posted a solution on how to move the esc key somewhere else, on the previous page. You can even remove the esc key altogether and in the System Preferences you can make your caps lock key the new esc key. Then you get your physical key back.

For the touchpad, you might want to deactivate tap to click and only click when you actually press it to get a click feedback. Unfortunately I too find the newer touchpads to be a bit susceptible to wrong random clicking and moving around.
 
I came to this subforum looking for a reason why Safari would start loading a page then cancel very quickly on my new MacBook Pro.... well after reading this I figured I was pressing the esc button with my pinky by accident
 
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Still wondering who TF types with their hand positioned like the pic the OP posted.
He already explained that's what happens when he's Cmd-C Cmd-V'ing stuff. He didn't suggest that's his default position. And frankly I don't blame him for the angle as he appears to be trying to avoid the obnoxiously large trackpad.
 
I am always accidentally activating Siri and muting/unmuting my music. It's infuriating.

If the touchbar was just about 5mm higher up, this would be a non-issue for me. Thinking about running a strip of electrical tape across the bottom of the touchbar so I can still use it but reduce accidental touches.

Or maybe there's something I can install to move the touchbar up. That'd be handy.
 
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ALL THE TIME!!!!

I accidentally hit escape EVERY TIME I've been working on something important for hours!!! I've almost taped over it several times. How do I get rid of it!?

Is anybody else hitting the Touch Bar ESC button by mistake while typing with your left hand's pinky finger?

The problem is this: since the button has no physical weight, the sightliest caress with your pinky finger triggers the ESC button, and therefore exiting whatever input form you might be filling in at that moment. As a result, I have had to type the whole thing again quite a few times already. It is driving me nuts!

Is anyone else hitting the ESC button by mistake?

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He already explained that's what happens when he's Cmd-C Cmd-V'ing stuff. He didn't suggest that's his default position. And frankly I don't blame him for the angle as he appears to be trying to avoid the obnoxiously large trackpad.

I would agree...It is almost between a rock and a hard place. Have to avoid the TB AND the battleship of a TP. It is no longer possible to use the term "palm rest" despite the amount of real estate between the keys and the edge of the bezel.
 
ALL THE TIME!!!!

I accidentally hit escape EVERY TIME I've been working on something important for hours!!! I've almost taped over it several times. How do I get rid of it!?

Go into Keyboard Preferences, select Customize Control Strip and then rearrange it to meet your needs. I was having more trouble with accidental taps on items on the right, so I eliminated everything from that section (Siri, etc). I also removed a lot of controls that didn't make sense for me.

I now have nothing in the control strip above the 0 key and to the right, and my accidental taps have all but disappeared.
 
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Go into Keyboard Preferences, select Customize Control Strip and then rearrange it to meet your needs. I was having more trouble with accidental taps on items on the right, so I eliminated everything from that section (Siri, etc). I also removed a lot of controls that didn't make sense for me.

I now have nothing in the control strip above the 0 key and to the right, and my accidental taps have all but disappeared.

Likely a silly question, however, can you remove all the buttons, save for example the ESC key, and then place that key in the middle, say over the "7" key?
 
No, sadly, you can not. The soft ESC key, which is the subject of this thread, is not editable.

Thank you for taking time to reply. I suspected as much. Against hope, I had wanted to believe it could be done.

Oh, well, what with the TB, the oversized TP, loud and defective keyboard going in yet again for repair, and impending software "improvements", it looks like cursing as if I were a drunken sailor will become the norm . . .
 
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Happens all the time, but I'm more annoyed with the "send email" button in Mail, I keep hitting it mid message
I had that happen to me once when sending a work email... You can disable the application specific toolbars in the keyboard settings.
[doublepost=1513012574][/doublepost]Ideally, the perfect solution (in my mind) wold be an easy software update enabling a double-tap feature for the touch tool bar.
(I tapped "lock screen" while typing this post)

It is of no concern that it is incorrect typing posture causing this issue... the appropriate response from apple would be to create a platform in which folks with varying postures are accounted for by enabling such features as double-tapping the touch tool bar button or holding it down.

Peace!
 
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This has driving me CRAZY!!!! In Viber ESC means delete everything you just typed!

After installing Keyboard logger I finally saw what is happening - right before Viber message dissapeared ESC was registered. I asked another person to observe my fingers when I was typing. He confirmed that I was getting close to ESC all the time...

Also that explains why I was PASTEing all the time in Word. Since PASTE is next to ESC. And ESC does nothing in Word when you type.

This is really anooying
 
Except keyboards have been around a lot longer than iPhone 4's...

The point is, there is a correct way to type, and the way that most people learn (Repetition). Either way is absolutely fine and won't cause any concern on 99% of keyboards. The problem is that now the top row is touch sensitive, people who are used to typing in abnormal ways are now accidentally triggering that key.

Regardless of whether people are wrong or not, these bad habits are now all of a sudden glaringly obvious. But you cannot expect any company to cater to the 1% of users who are having this problem, as it would effect the other 99%. So you either accept that you're not using something as intended, and slightly change your style. Which will only help you in the long run and give you greater flexibility if designs like this continue. Or you proclaim it a terrible design and live in a bitter world with an external keyboard. It really isn't that much of a change to make, just get used to keeping your fingers along the middle row as a point of reference. There's no need to avoid the trackpad by using bizarre unergonomic hand positions either. But anyway, if you can touch type, just make a small conscious effort to avoid it and within a week of use you'll be fine. Just don't expect any miracle cure beyond disabling the esc key and mapping it to another, as this would be a temporary solution and you'll still have this problem for years to come.
[doublepost=1519246129][/doublepost]After 5 months of use - plus Everyone I know - I guess all the 1 percenters have this problem (and I'm not Ghandi or Einstein) - the new keyboard with the insanely placed esc key (which cannot be modified) requires just a barely noticeable touch and that will trigger the esc key - I guess if you type like a Tyrannosaurus Rex than you will be fine but people with large hands will need to hold them up or need wrist bar to help them keeps their fingers up - my left ring finger is deformed and requires absolute diligence on my part to avoid any accidental deletions - which unfortunately, I lack (fyi, have normal hand size) ... as an Apple developer- I reported the touch bar as a bug - and the response was basically tough - my point, if you can customize parts of the bar's icon location then moving the escape via software modification should also be possible -- stop this too bad we can't cater to everyone crap - think different - and cater to everyone!
 
[doublepost=1519246129][/doublepost]After 5 months of use - plus Everyone I know - I guess all the 1 percenters have this problem (and I'm not Ghandi or Einstein) - the new keyboard with the insanely placed esc key (which cannot be modified) requires just a barely noticeable touch and that will trigger the esc key - I guess if you type like a Tyrannosaurus Rex than you will be fine but people with large hands will need to hold them up or need wrist bar to help them keeps their fingers up - my left ring finger is deformed and requires absolute diligence on my part to avoid any accidental deletions - which unfortunately, I lack (fyi, have normal hand size) ... as an Apple developer- I reported the touch bar as a bug - and the response was basically tough - my point, if you can customize parts of the bar's icon location then moving the escape via software modification should also be possible -- stop this too bad we can't cater to everyone crap - think different - and cater to everyone!
Come on—can’t cater to everyone.

Apple Mail and Outlook have addressed the problem of accidentally hitting the TB by making you tap twice to send.

Maybe there is someway they can discourage accidental touches of the escape key?
 
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"The antenna's not bad on the phone, you're holding it wrong!", "the lack of pressure sensitivity on the touchbar isn't bad, you're typing on it wrong!"

It's a design flaw. Apple does make them, it's a price of innovation. It will likely be addressed in future versions. For now, we find workarounds, not mock the victims.

There are a few apps I've found which claim to address the issue. None are perfect.

"Better Touch Tool" lets you replace the whole menu: as well as adding buttons, you can also turn off the escape key and its own icon leaving only one button to toggle back to the normal toolbar. [I initially thought the icon could not be removed, but the setting's right there: I was just being blind.] This means that the bar can be easily toggled on/off depending on your needs. It is, however, $6.50.

"Touch Bar Disabler"
is free and does what it says on the tin, disabling the touchbar. It adds non-remappable global Ctrl+number hotkeys to change volume and brightness, but none for toggling the touchbar (that's a click-the-icon, select-menu-item thing. It also disables changing the touchbar display, and requires manually disabling System Integrity Protection. All told, not an ideal solution.

"Karabiner-Elements" is also free, lets you remap the esc key to, say, the shift key. Ideally, Fn-Esc or somesuch could then become Esc, but to remap key-combos rather than single keys requires JSON editing. Probably worth doing, though, and might commit that to github so that it can be installed as an "internet rule". Downside of this is that for things like vi your muscle memory is "broken".

There are various other workarounds proposed:

"lrn 2 type lolzor!" Possible, perhaps, for newbie typists, but not a reasonable proposition for those with muscle memory older than the trolls saying this.

Install the recent patch. A recent ("10.13") patch allegedly added a delay to address this, but it appears to have been reverted since: in my 10.13.6 there is no delay and a tap on Esc still immediately, for example, discards any IM message being composed, without undo.

Edit the bar. Removing all the virtual buttons other than the non-removable escape key resolves much of the problem for many. However, esc cannot be removed, nor moved on the bar.

Electrical tape. This has worked for some, but even multiple layers of it have not worked for others.

Put objects in the way. Extremely low tech and sucky, and fails if you are not on a desk -- is to rest a pen on the bar. This prevents hovering fingers from brushing against the bar, but poses a risk of screen damage if forgetting the pens when closing the screen. If you are mobile, taping down a pen might work, but that makes the risk of screen damage more acute.

Make a shield. A piece of thin card, or transparent plastic, taped at the top edge, could cover the bar while still allowing it to be flipped up when you felt like using the bar for something.

Get a different laptop. Sadly, there are no other 15" macbook pros without the bar.

Get a different keyboard. This is a valid option for desk users, if they have enough desk space, though it's a shame - the rest of the laptop's keyboard is frankly a complete delight to type on.

All of these are regrettably poor workarounds for flawed hardware, but all are one hell of a lot better than "it's not a problem for me, so you must have bad hands. Develop better hands before using Apple products!"
 
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Is anybody else hitting the Touch Bar ESC button by mistake while typing with your left hand's pinky finger?

The problem is this: since the button has no physical weight, the sightliest caress with your pinky finger triggers the ESC button, and therefore exiting whatever input form you might be filling in at that moment. As a result, I have had to type the whole thing again quite a few times already. It is driving me nuts!

Is anyone else hitting the ESC button by mistake?

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Hi,
Just got a new MacBook Pro with Touch Bar. Happens to me a lot, and it's quite annoying.

Fortunately, a good amount of the time I'm using an external keyboard. When working remote on my laptop, this happens to me all the time.

Wish it was possible to move the Esc key somewhere else on the touch bar. I still need it, but not in a way the it is constantly being hit by accident.

Wondering if some good solutions have come up since you posted this. I've been looking a bit on forums and the solutions I've found so far seem complicated and not very useful. Has anyone found an elegant solution for those of us who have this issue?

Thank you for putting up this post. It's nice to at least know I'm not the only one! :)
 
Happens every time I use the Touch Bar MacBook Pro. Not just escape but many other things too. End up activating random things.
 
Happens every time I use the Touch Bar MacBook Pro. Not just escape but many other things too. End up activating random things.

Try using BetterTouchTool,

click on the 'Keyboard' tab ('Select Application' should be set to 'Global'),
click on '+ Add New Shortcut or Key Sequence'
click on the field and press the 'Shift-Escape' keys, a ⇧⎋ should appear
move to the right where it says 'Trigger Predefined Action' and choose: 'Keyboard keys/ESC (Escape key, respects pressed modifier)'

We've just created a substitute for the 'escape' key. Now we need to disable it.

click on '+ Add New Shortcut or Key Sequence'
click on the field and press the 'Escape' key on the Touchbar, a ⎋ should appear
move to the right where it says 'Trigger Predefined Action' and make sure it reads: No Action

I like this way more than deactivating the entire TouchBar.
 
Happens every time I use the Touch Bar MacBook Pro. Not just escape but many other things too. End up activating random things.

And you know, it is NOT just the ESC....I find that I am always doing something from automatically starting iTunes, to doing function in the software I am using, to starting VLAN, and on and on and on. As far as I can tell, the mere proximity, the slightest brush against the darned TouchBar creates some unwanted action.....

"For the love of Pete"!
 
Is anybody else hitting the Touch Bar ESC button by mistake while typing with your left hand's pinky finger?

The problem is this: since the button has no physical weight, the sightliest caress with your pinky finger triggers the ESC button, and therefore exiting whatever input form you might be filling in at that moment. As a result, I have had to type the whole thing again quite a few times already. It is driving me nuts!

Is anyone else hitting the ESC button by mistake?

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Yes! And I have been on about this to friends since I bought a 15" MB Pro soon after launch. I hated both the keyboard and touch bar, that show a total ignorance of human factors by Apple. Lol, whilst typing this, my right finger touched the Siri Touchbar icon.

Ignore those putting you down, you are doing nothing wrong. I trained myself to type in the 80s using Mavis Beacon and can type properly on any device well, except the MB Pros. I got rid of mine a year ago, but due to my hatred of windows, have just bought a top spec 15" (i9, 32 GB RAM) and whilst the machine performs well, I am having to force myself not to hit the ESC key. 30 years or more of typing a specific way is going to be difficult to undo.

Would you or any other MacRumors people be interested in a long travel keyboard overlay that rested ontop of the macbook keyboard? I am designing one, it would require no power.
 
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Yes! And I have been on about this to friends since I bought a 15" MB Pro soon after launch. I hated both the keyboard and touch bar, that show a total ignorance of human factors by Apple. Lol, whilst typing this, my right finger touched the Siri Touchbar icon.

Ignore those putting you down, you are doing nothing wrong. I trained myself to type in the 80s using Mavis Beacon and can type properly on any device well, except the MB Pros. I got rid of mine a year ago, but due to my hatred of windows, have just bought a top spec 15" (i9, 32 GB RAM) and whilst the machine performs well, I am having to force myself not to hit the ESC key. 30 years or more of typing a specific way is going to be difficult to undo.

Would you or any other MacRumors people be interested in a long travel keyboard overlay that rested ontop of the macbook keyboard? I am designing one, it would require no power.

I would definitely!
 
I would definitely!

Great! We have just started the 3D modelling it, and hope to create a 3D printed very rough prototype as soon as is possible. The codename for the project is Tapity, not the real name. Our design company is 'Yair' (UK company in stealth mode at present.) But if you submit the contact form below and check 'Other', I'll let you know when it's ready, no spam, we're GDPR compliant and don't like spamming people anyway! If we cannot get Tapity to work, we will not bother releasing it. We are self funded and won't be doing any crowd funding, such has Kiskstarter. :) So it's all good.

https://docs.picosm.com/contact/

Al.

P.S. You and some of my team are the only one to know about this. And any others on MacRumors reading this, ha. Again, if we cannot make Tapity to work to the standards Apple lovers will expect, we will not manufacture it. And yes, we have a pile of Bluetooth keyboards here, non of which do the job, because...
 
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