Tenth anniversary of the iPhone. Apple will surely do something very interesting this year to their flagship product. I'm ready to upgrade and a full-screen edge to edge display is something worth having for me.
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2017 iPhone May Feature Edge-to-Edge Display With Embedded Touch ID Sensor, Front-Facing Camera
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I'm pretty sure this same rumor existed for iPhone 6, the timing makes this rumor bogus, the 2017 release will most likely be iPhone 7S, the "updated" version of the iPhone 7 that is released in late 2016.
HobeSoundDarryl
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What is all this "10th anniversary" spin? Since when does Apple revolve product development around some sentimental date thinking (I recall only 1 Mac ever getting some anniversary-oriented marketing spin associated with it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentieth_Anniversary_Macintosh)? Just a few years ago, thread after thread expected something big for the 30th anniversary of the creation of the Mac. The day came. The day went. Nothing.
Apple formed on April 1, 1976. That should seem to be about the most monumental date in Apple history as pretty much EVERYTHING Apple traces back to that date. So we just passed the 40th anniversary of the most important date in Apple's history. What special edition of anything came out this past April 1? Nothing.
I realize that the next iPhone cumulative rumors make this look like a modest let-down year while the next edition iPhone rumors beyond this one looks like it's getting nearly ALL of the more interesting "innovations"... but to spin that like Apple Inc might be even plotting to save bigger features because they want a "special 10th anniversary edition" to really shine is just fooling ourselves (or trying to fool others).
It's the same with this tick-tock concept of model number than model number + S (refinement) year. Yes, Apple has followed that pattern for a few years but they are not forced to stick to that forever. If they roll out a non-S-model iPhone and the next day there is some huge, immediately implementable breakthrough that completely transforms what a cell phone can be, they won't wait to implement that breakthrough for 2 years because the next update absolutely must be a refining "S" model year.
Apple Inc wants EVERY edition to shine. They want every possible buyer to want to buy every generation iPhone. They're not going to compromise multiple quarters of sales just because they have some sentimental attachment to some date (or some tick-tock pattern perception). If the cumulative rumors for both of the next generations turn out to pretty much cover ALL of the bigger changes, my speculation is this: Apple just couldn't work some of next year's innovations into this year's version. So this next one will be as good as they could do for this phone and the next phone- which doesn't even have to wait until the Fall of 2017 either- will be the best that they can do for that phone. The world of iPhone buyers do not see Apple as God, and hang on every single rumor and move that Apple makes. The world will just buy the brand new iPhone and not know or even notice that the 6se or 7 or whatever Apple calls it may not really be that different from the 6s.
This is business people. Sentimentality and perceived patterns may indeed be exploited in marketing spin where applicable. But you don't revolve a business like this around such concepts. Rigidity is the enemy of tech-driven growth.
Apple formed on April 1, 1976. That should seem to be about the most monumental date in Apple history as pretty much EVERYTHING Apple traces back to that date. So we just passed the 40th anniversary of the most important date in Apple's history. What special edition of anything came out this past April 1? Nothing.
I realize that the next iPhone cumulative rumors make this look like a modest let-down year while the next edition iPhone rumors beyond this one looks like it's getting nearly ALL of the more interesting "innovations"... but to spin that like Apple Inc might be even plotting to save bigger features because they want a "special 10th anniversary edition" to really shine is just fooling ourselves (or trying to fool others).
It's the same with this tick-tock concept of model number than model number + S (refinement) year. Yes, Apple has followed that pattern for a few years but they are not forced to stick to that forever. If they roll out a non-S-model iPhone and the next day there is some huge, immediately implementable breakthrough that completely transforms what a cell phone can be, they won't wait to implement that breakthrough for 2 years because the next update absolutely must be a refining "S" model year.
Apple Inc wants EVERY edition to shine. They want every possible buyer to want to buy every generation iPhone. They're not going to compromise multiple quarters of sales just because they have some sentimental attachment to some date (or some tick-tock pattern perception). If the cumulative rumors for both of the next generations turn out to pretty much cover ALL of the bigger changes, my speculation is this: Apple just couldn't work some of next year's innovations into this year's version. So this next one will be as good as they could do for this phone and the next phone- which doesn't even have to wait until the Fall of 2017 either- will be the best that they can do for that phone. The world of iPhone buyers do not see Apple as God, and hang on every single rumor and move that Apple makes. The world will just buy the brand new iPhone and not know or even notice that the 6se or 7 or whatever Apple calls it may not really be that different from the 6s.
This is business people. Sentimentality and perceived patterns may indeed be exploited in marketing spin where applicable. But you don't revolve a business like this around such concepts. Rigidity is the enemy of tech-driven growth.
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Someone hasn't looked at the Mac lineup.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
I wasn't defending Apple- just pointing out that "10th anniversary" and "tick tock" rigidity have almost no place in explaining anything in defense of or offense toward Apple. While I'm not an Apple insider, I have 0% belief that they would conciously make business decisions around holding anything back because they want the 10th anniversary model to be something extra special, nor be so locked to the tick-tock cycle that there is absolute no room to stray should something great come up at a bad timing moment and potentially have to wait up to 729 days before Apple could adopt it because the next tick or tock absolutely must be a "S" refined iPhone with no significant new innovations.
More simply: I see both concepts as just fooling ourselves or trying to fool others... with no likely basis in reality. I could certainly be wrong about either or both ideas but even the common sense filter should make anyone realize that either or both beliefs are such a reach... and don't seem to make any sense to a business-minded corporation obligated to maximize profits NOW.
Besides, history shows that Apple almost never even leverages any special anniversary dates for product development or release purposes with- what I know- might be the one referenced exception. Examples: still looking for the 30th anniversary special edition Mac that had so much speculative fodder being slung ahead of that anniversary. And we just slipped by the 40th anniversary of the founding of Apple without even a new set of socks. But the iPhone after the next one is being specially built- even favored- because this particular 10th anniversary is far more special than any of the others???
More simply: I see both concepts as just fooling ourselves or trying to fool others... with no likely basis in reality. I could certainly be wrong about either or both ideas but even the common sense filter should make anyone realize that either or both beliefs are such a reach... and don't seem to make any sense to a business-minded corporation obligated to maximize profits NOW.
Besides, history shows that Apple almost never even leverages any special anniversary dates for product development or release purposes with- what I know- might be the one referenced exception. Examples: still looking for the 30th anniversary special edition Mac that had so much speculative fodder being slung ahead of that anniversary. And we just slipped by the 40th anniversary of the founding of Apple without even a new set of socks. But the iPhone after the next one is being specially built- even favored- because this particular 10th anniversary is far more special than any of the others???
I've upgraded every 3 years, 3G/4S/6+. Looks like my 6+ will definitely last until 2017. What a ball drop if Apple only gives us a better camera and a tweaked processor this year.
They'll probably call that 10th anniversary iPhone, the "iPhone" flat out again, no iPhone 8. Never know.
But, definitely looking forward to see if they can pull off some more revolutionary designs once again, no bezel, OLED, edges, etc. That is where its at now. All that will leak somewhat as it'll require somewhat significant iOS updates in advance to not only resolution, but multiple displays/forms viewable at once, use of sensors, areas in this example around holes/edges, etc.
If not, we can at least look forward to the Galaxy S8 Edge and so on...
But, definitely looking forward to see if they can pull off some more revolutionary designs once again, no bezel, OLED, edges, etc. That is where its at now. All that will leak somewhat as it'll require somewhat significant iOS updates in advance to not only resolution, but multiple displays/forms viewable at once, use of sensors, areas in this example around holes/edges, etc.
If not, we can at least look forward to the Galaxy S8 Edge and so on...
i have the 6s plus and the battery is great , how much do you use your phone that the battery isnt good enough for you!?
How would you hold the phone? It would be awkward as hell. You can't even hold the edges to play a game or watch a video in landscape mode...even if there was some sort of dead zone on the edges that you can put your fingers on now you're obscuring the screen! I'd happily pass on that model.
Don't shoot the messenger. Clearly Wall Street has already reacted to this iPhone 6/6S/6SS tick-toc-toc trend with declining sales figures. Do you even own Apple stock? Boo hoo yourself.
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Yeah sorry I was more talking about the 10th generation of iPhone (tied to the processor Ax and iOS x).
As much as I would like to believe the tenth anniversary of the iPhone is playing a major role in the delay of a significantly redesigned iPhone, it's more likely OLED or perhaps more to the point, mLED production is still a year away (maybe a little less) from becoming reality. The replacement tech for the home button and real wireless charging are probably not at the level necessary for inclusion this year as well.
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I don't recall any rumors that indicated the 6 would be a minor update, to be followed by a significantly redesigned iPhone in 2015. This is new rumor territory we've entered here. There were minor rumors in the past about Apple skipping an 's' model, but nothing close to the level we're seeing now.
<Puts 6S in more protective case>...."We're gonna be together for a while, buddy"
Yeah. Can't speak for anyone else, but I for one strongly prefer a case that provides a lip to protect the phone from screen-down falls.
Is that a thing? Does it work?
Lmao!
My 4S died an untimely death due to being dropped from about 18", in its protective case, hitting face down on an irregular surface.
All of the rumored gimmicks, some of which are copying what Samsung already has, are just going to make the phone more fragile. That's stupid.
One thing that Samsung has that I actually think would be useful is the significant water resistance of the S7 Edge. Here are a couple of interesting videos comparing the S7 Edge and the iPhone 6S:
I really like the phone/data in the iPhone 6S, and, of course, it isn't Android, or, worse -- Samsung's Android. It appears to be a little more rugged than the S7 Edge.
Apple: Don't screw up the 6S -- it is already a great phone (could use a little more battery, though).
Make it water resistant like the S7 Edge.
Just one of many reasons that the 6-series iPhones have been so poor. The curved edges make it a difficult phone to hold comfortably/confidently, and also lead to edge presses despite the small 'bezels'.
A return to proper phone sides, like the 5-series is the only way to allow anterior screen curves/edges to function correctly.
[doublepost=1463227751][/doublepost]Apple what are playing at totally run out of ideas 3 years with the same design come on someone fire Tim Cook it's always about money Apple needs some who's willing to take risk and push,push for new ideas and true groundbreaking products
Rumors suggest Apple's 2016 iPhone 7 will look very similar to the iPhone 6s, with major changes to the iPhone's form factor actually coming in 2017, the year that marks the 10th anniversary of the device's initial launch. Apple blogger John Gruber recently shared some tantalizing details about the 2017 iPhone, which may see some radical design tweaks.
In the latest episode of his podcast The Talk Show, Gruber said he's heard "scuttlebutt" suggesting the 2017 iPhone will include an edge-to-edge display that eliminates the top and bottom bezels on the device, with the front-facing camera, Touch ID, and other sensors hidden under the display.
Previous rumors have indicated Apple is planning to introduce a flexible OLED display in the 2017 iPhone, and an OLED display panel would allow for an edge-to-edge screen design. Apple has already signed a deal with Samsung for a portion of the OLED panels it will need for the devices.
Multiple rumors have suggested one 2017 iPhone could include a 5.8-inch OLED display, which would perhaps mean Apple plans to have the display wrap around the edges of a 5.5-inch device, but it is not clear how such a screen size would work without top and bottom bezels as suggested by Gruber.
Along with an OLED display, the iPhone coming in 2017 is rumored to include a glass shell, like the iPhone 4 and 4s, rather than the aluminum body that's been used for the iPhone 5s, 6, 6s, 6 Plus, 6s Plus, and SE. Long-range wireless charging and expanded biometric features like iris or facial recognition are also features that have been rumored, along with a 10-nanometer A11 chip from TSMC and NAND flash memory supplied by Samsung.
Apple has been working on developing touch and display driver integration (TTDI) chips since 2015, which would let the Touch ID fingerprint recognition system be embedded directly into the display, allowing for the elimination of the Home button. Analyst rumors have previously suggested the Home button will be removed in the 2017 iPhone, in line with what Gruber has heard.
With Apple planning major design changes for the 2017 iPhone, there have been rumors indicating the devices will not feature an "S" name, with Apple perhaps skipping the iPhone 7s and 7s Plus to move directly to the iPhone 8 or another name.
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If the iPhone 2017 does indeed look like the render above with the edge to edge display.......what will all the apple fans say that have knocked the Galaxy S7 Edge? What will they say now that Apple has the exact same thing? Will they still say it is just a gimmick? Apple following the market trends again.....they used to lead.In the latest episode of his podcast The Talk Show, Gruber said he's heard "scuttlebutt" suggesting the 2017 iPhone will include an edge-to-edge display that eliminates the top and bottom bezels on the device, with the front-facing camera, Touch ID, and other sensors hidden under the display.
Really, a display all the way to the edge? With a cut out for a speaker right bang at the top of my favorite website? All the way to the edge so that accidental inputs become commonplace? I think not. Bezel reduction is good. Full screen to edge will be gimmick hour.