It’s still not five years old. The design is not new, but it’s going to be peppy and a good experience in a way a 5 year old device wouldn’t be.
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2018 iPad Pro With 1TB Storage Has 6GB RAM, Lower Capacities Have 4GB
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It’s still not five years old. The design is not new, but it’s going to be peppy and a good experience in a way a 5 year old device wouldn’t be.
The design wouldn't be new either if they used the Air 2 design. And I now looked it up, the iPad Air 1 launched in October 2013. Hmm!
I agree, it's not by definition a bad design, it's the least expensive design in terms of all components to provide a certain target group with a relatively fast tablet providing most of the typical iPad experience. But calling it up to date seems wrong because the only thing up to date is a processor which is 2 years behind and is, on top, reduced to the iPhone version (iPad processors were always pimped compared to their identical iPhone counterpart until the split of Pro and normal iPad).
Right now, the product fragmentations means that if you want a better chassis, you automatically have to buy into the Pro line, no matter if you need the extra RAM or CPU speed. That is something I would call upsell.
Lol, this is hysterical!
[doublepost=1541283161][/doublepost]I have the 1st gen 12.9” iPad Pro with 4 GB RAM. It’s disappointing that 3 years later, most models will still have the same amount.
Interestingly, this is making me waffle between choosing a 2018 model with 256GB vs 1TB. The 512GB model seems like it would be an inefficient use of money.
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i agree. In buying the 512GB one is overpaying for only the added storage, but at least with the 1TB model, one is overpaying for the storage but getting additional RAM as a bonus.
I just did the exact same thing. Why would I spend $1500+ dollars and not be able to use it for many years to come? I figure this just replaces my existing IPP with full screen etc. This isnt a laptop replacement - no way, no how. It does look quite sick tho - still just an ipad.
IIRC, the 64GB variant uses emmc (260 MB/s read, 145 MB/s write_. The 128 GB upgrade comes with a real SSD (1185MB/s read, 133 MB/s write)
https://www.windowscentral.com/surface-go-64gb-emmc-speed-test
Yeah, 256GB is the minimum storage I would purchase. That will be more than satisfactory. I move most photos off of my phone pretty quickly, because I don't want them all there taking up space and I like them backed up on my computer & external HDDs. It's also much easier when it is upgrade time! I always buy the middle-model. Whatever it is. Because 1) the base model on any Apple phone or tablet costs more than many higher end models on other platforms and you generally get less storage, and 2) for only $100-150 more (when talking a phone or tablet) you get something which is better than just 'adequate' and has decent storage. That used to be 128GB as the middle model. Now it's 256 -- which I don't mind at all. Though they have tacked on another $50 to the upgrade. Of course.
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Some of us as we get older...also have neurological conditions which cause faint trembling when exerting force with our hands. It's weird, for me it is only my hands where I have this problem. And of course it is only noticeable if I'm trying to hold my hands very still. I did have severe carpal tunnel a few years ago. Which cleared up with physical therapy and a brace I wore while sleeping. I'm not saying the demonstrator has a similar problem, just that it is possible.
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My other problem with iPads as part of my workflow is that transferring files to a traditional computer (an iMac, in my case) has always been a pain, slow, and tedious. For instance, there's generally no way to simply 'select all,' depending upon which app I'm using. While I would love to work on images on an iPad with a Pencil, as it does sound simple and intuitive, I would definitely wait to see how well Photoshop really works on the new iPad Pro. Another reason I can't move more workflow to an iPad is that there's no InDesign touch application. Which would be nice to have. Or at least I think it would be. One error Apple does often make is underestimating RAM needed in a device. Particularly when they've just made a major revision and therefore have new and higher costs. You'r probably right that 4GB will be fine in most instances. I also agree that complex and/or large files may need more than that. We will see. In the meantime...I have to plan as to just when I'll upgrade. My Gen1 12.9" is still very fast and meets all of my needs for a tablet which I don't use for most work, just some email when I'm not at my computer, web browsing, reading, and some video consumption. But, the new models are so beautiful...!
Why do people always say this stuff?
I ran out of space on my 512GB iPad. People do different things, and a 5TB model could be fully used by someone.
I mean, solely based on NEED, we don’t need anything from Apple.
Besides the fleeting self-esteem boost that comes from taunting people that can’t afford them.
Let’s face it, it’s easier than earning that self-esteem through doing something special or having a respected talent.
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Yes. While it’s interesting that you do not need it, I suppose, I’m not you and therefore almost certainly have different usage patterns.
The 8GB I have on my cellphone makes a monumental difference, and significantly cuts down on the need of the device to utilize main storage, which is orders of magnitude slower than RAM. It will also extend the life of the storage, although the battery will die long before the storage.
Remember, some of the RAM in these devices is shard with the graphics subsystem, so the initial 4GB of memory is not free, clear, and usable by the user. a 4GB device has about 3GB that’s usable by user programs, so a jump from 4GB to 6GB is really more like a jump from 3GB to 5GB, or a 66% increase.
I also notice a huge different between 8GB and 16GB in my MacBook as well.
6GB is signigficant, and you don’t really have to believe me, Apple engineers themselves clearly thought this was a benefit as well.
To be honest with you, I have no idea whyyy I said that lmao. I wasn’t thinking clearly. I should’ve deleted it Lol.
I do wish I could have the extra RAM, but definitely don’t want to shell out money for a 1TB.
Confirmed in the 12.9 inch, but what about 11 inch?
12.9: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/11/2018-ipad-pro-review-whats-a-computer/
Yeah I saw it a few days ago, here's the lower model: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/6gb-ram-in-lower-model-found.2151553/
Here's my take on the 4 vs 6 debate:
The decision depends on how much memory you realistically expect to use. In my case, I have the original 128GB 12.9 Pro; and use about 2/3 of it. That means at least 256GB since 64 would definitely be a step back. To go to 6GB memory I need to spend $600 more. If the argument for 6GB is longer life, a fair comparison is what would a new iPad cost when the 4GB model is EOL'd. For argument's sake, let's assume the old one retains 1/4 of its value, so you'd get ~300 in trade from Apple. Let's also assume iPad prices stay relatively constant, which IIRC my original Pro retailed around $1000. So if a new one sells for say $1300, you'd pay a delta of $400 for a new model with higher specs than the 2018 model.
Complicating it is there is no reason to suspect Apple will not EOL all iPads at the same date.
Obviously, we each have our own needs and wants when it comes to what we buy. Personally, 256 is at the right price point for me. I am just presenting an alternative way to look at the situation beyond "6GB gives me a longer lifespan for my iPad..."
The decision depends on how much memory you realistically expect to use. In my case, I have the original 128GB 12.9 Pro; and use about 2/3 of it. That means at least 256GB since 64 would definitely be a step back. To go to 6GB memory I need to spend $600 more. If the argument for 6GB is longer life, a fair comparison is what would a new iPad cost when the 4GB model is EOL'd. For argument's sake, let's assume the old one retains 1/4 of its value, so you'd get ~300 in trade from Apple. Let's also assume iPad prices stay relatively constant, which IIRC my original Pro retailed around $1000. So if a new one sells for say $1300, you'd pay a delta of $400 for a new model with higher specs than the 2018 model.
Complicating it is there is no reason to suspect Apple will not EOL all iPads at the same date.
Obviously, we each have our own needs and wants when it comes to what we buy. Personally, 256 is at the right price point for me. I am just presenting an alternative way to look at the situation beyond "6GB gives me a longer lifespan for my iPad..."
That's some crazy upsell when other companies like OnePlus start at 6GB LPDDR4X and only charge +$30 to upgrade to 8GB.
https://www.oneplus.com/oneplus-6t?from=6t
iOS can be rather bloaty and crash with 4GB DRAM on a simple batch process that runs fine on other OS' with just 1GB DRAM. So, with iOS you want the most DRAM possible.
https://mobile.twitter.com/viticci/status/1061443135975407616
https://www.oneplus.com/oneplus-6t?from=6t
iOS can be rather bloaty and crash with 4GB DRAM on a simple batch process that runs fine on other OS' with just 1GB DRAM. So, with iOS you want the most DRAM possible.
https://mobile.twitter.com/viticci/status/1061443135975407616
Should be 128GB standard (in end of 2018, previous gen was 64 already), then 256/512/1tb as an option. For 99$ extra for each step. All with 6 gb. But no, they are greedy. And don't bend it !
I’d say 512MB of ram was a lot in 1998’ lol I remember my mom buying us a desktop in 2002 and it was $499 in Walmart as a gift, this desktop had 128MB of ram. It worked great for for about 2 years after that around 2004 I became an enthusiast..
Your friend was right! He overbuilt his system, and he didn’t need more ram for years.
I started building computers in 2004, 1-2GB of high performance CAS Latency 2 or 3 DDR 400Mhz was the performance standard for the enthusiast in the PC world. Well, if he had 512MB in 1998 he was doing pretty darn good.
Computers last a long time! In 2013 I was usually running 16GB of memory it was plenty! And the same is true 6 years later in 2019! 16GB is plenty! Even for a high end 4K gaming PC pushing 60fps. Unless your doing some serious stuff in Adobe premier pro CC, or similar applications.
Either way, I don’t see anyone’s ram amount as a power measurement in a computer. Ram can be increased anytime easily. It’s the cpu, gpu that counts the most to me anyways.
Depends on what you use it for. If you do online trading a trading platform requires a lot of RAM for all the tickers,indexes,news,videos,etc..
If at the same time you have a bunch of Safari tabs open along with a few other apps then RAM will be important..
Right, so even 16GB is going to be plenty for that. 32GB is absolute overkill for anyone using a high end desktop but not that expensive to incorporate when building a PC either.
If you need more than 32GB of DDR4 memory, then you are running like several virtual machines and things like that.
High end performance DDR4 ram kits are usually,
16GB $150
32GB $300
64GB $600
128GB $1,200
My MacBook Pro has 16GB of RAM which has been enough for me so far but iPhone 8 Plus and iPas Pro 10.5” could use more RAM to be honest
Yea that’s why I’m hoping the 1TB iPad Pro with 6GB that is on the way will be everything I expect it to be.
With my iPad Pro 11” that I sold, it only had 4GB of ram like most. If I minimized one game, and opened another game I could feel the micro stuttering, and see it. After a few seconds it would go away. But, that game wouldn’t be 100% smooth unless I closed the other game in the background. I could clearly see it was the memory running very thin or either depleted completely.
The above symptoms can be recreated with Ark Survival running on maximum settings, and GTA San Andreas running in the back ground.