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2018 iPad Pro With 1TB Storage Has 6GB RAM, Lower Capacities Have 4GB
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I’ve seen a lot of arguments on here, even from people trying to justify 4GB of RAM...
But, with Apple touting this as a professional device, running professional applications, and above all propping this up as a laptop replacement, why are you happy or content with Apple putting the same 4GB of RAM in the 2018 Pro as they put in the iPhone? That doesn’t scream the iPhone is just more powerful than it should be, it says to me the iPad Pro is less powerful than it should be. I just can’t justify paying $1000+ for a laptop replacement with the same specs as a phone.
But, with Apple touting this as a professional device, running professional applications, and above all propping this up as a laptop replacement, why are you happy or content with Apple putting the same 4GB of RAM in the 2018 Pro as they put in the iPhone? That doesn’t scream the iPhone is just more powerful than it should be, it says to me the iPad Pro is less powerful than it should be. I just can’t justify paying $1000+ for a laptop replacement with the same specs as a phone.
I keep hoping it was all a bad dream and repeatedly check this story to see if an update had been posted and it was all a big joke.
This makes no sense and was basically false advertising with that Adobe person showing a 3.3GB PSD with 150 layers with system running, Photoshop, and PS scratch disks for histogram, layer rendering adjustments, etc. I would be so shocked and amazed if that was done on the gimped iPad Pro and stop complaining so much.
This makes no sense and was basically false advertising with that Adobe person showing a 3.3GB PSD with 150 layers with system running, Photoshop, and PS scratch disks for histogram, layer rendering adjustments, etc. I would be so shocked and amazed if that was done on the gimped iPad Pro and stop complaining so much.
The problem with paying for 1 TB on an iPad or even iPhone when offered in a year or two is that these aren't devices kept as long as a regular computer. You never get back the storage premium when selling it even before a year is up. Maybe a hundred or two hundred bucks more than the base but that's it. The base models tend to lose a lower percentage of their value.
That's not to say no one should buy 1 TB. If you use your iPad Pro for everything and want to hold a lot of 4K video and RAW shots then it makes some sense. For most people 256 GB will be plenty on a tablet. 512 for being good enough for most people using it as their primary computing device. 64 GB is a bit low and a waste in 2018. Phones should have at least 128 GB and a tablet should logically have more storage than a phone.
$1699 basically plus tax is just around $1800 for a tablet to have 6GB of RAM and you have to get the 1TB model to get 6GB of RAM. Bottom line is you need to fork out $1800 which I think is way too much for a tablet. That is notebook territory.
Don’t get me wrong, I think it is nice with 6GB of RAM but not worth $1800 in my opinion. $1K is about right but not 18 hundred $$$$
They ask you if you have a tablet which you wish to trade in of which they offer you up to $375
They should ask you if you have a motorcycle or car at that price lol.. You can easily see what your iPad Pro will be worth down the road And if you think they are expensive now. Wait until Trump and Xi go at it next month. This iPad could be over $2000 then
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Recommended (for your sensible and well-explained answer as to what does not suffer from 'fragmentation,' namely Apple's devices!), despite your use of "iPads Pro"...Rene Ritchie, is that you? LOL. I don't believe anyone else writes iPads Pro vs. iPad Pros.
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$1699 basically plus tax is just around $1800 for a tablet to have 6GB of RAM and you have to get the 1TB model to get 6GB of RAM. Bottom line is you need to fork out $1800 which I think is way too much for a tablet. That is notebook territory.
Don’t get me wrong, I think it is nice with 6GB of RAM but not worth $1800 in my opinion. $1K is about right but not 18 hundred $$$$
They ask you if you have a tablet which you wish to trade in of which they offer you up to $375
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And if you think they are expensive now. Wait until Trump and Xi go at it next month. This iPad could be over $2000 then
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Here in NYC, with our 8.25% tax (it may be higher...), that $1800 cellular 12.9" 1TB model will cost $1,949! So, just $50 shy of $2K—for a tablet.
I'm going to have to compromise and get the 11" iPad Pro, and I'm deciding between the 64GB and 256GB. Buying higher storage does not pay off when selling a device later on, all of the used product prices move toward the mean resale price, which is that of the base model.
But 64GB is just a little too small for me. 128GB would have been perfect.
So, of course you (I) have to shell out $150 to jump up a storage tier, with an additional $150 bump in price for cellular (which is a necessity for me), so that's $300 above the base model cost.
So the minimum I can spend is around $1190 with NYC tax. For the mid-low end tablet with 256GB! LOL.
I am VERY TEMPTED to JUST WAIT A FEW MONTHS and buy one USED at a discounted cost!
My current 12.9" Pro (1st Gen), which I love...is very heavy, and while I love the screen size, I really don't like carrying it out to meetings and travel since is is 60% heavier than the old 10.5" and current 11" model. Even though they nicely slimmed and curtailed the size of the new 12.9" Pro, and reduced the weight to 1.4 LB, the 11" 1 LB is just better for carrying around.
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I was so enthusiastic about this 11 inch iPad Pro. I just can't believe that a Xiaomi phone can be had for about $300 and comes with 6 GB of RAM. If anything the iPad Pro needs more memory than the iPhone XS Max. The iPad is designed to be a "Pro" device that can do split-screen app with PiP videos. All of these requires RAM and then they advertised the ability to run Photoshop CS flawlessly.
It just doesn't make sense in 2018. The 12.9 iPP has almost 68% more pixels for the same 4 GB of RAM. And then you need to get a $1900 tablet without any kind of cursor support just to get 6 GB of RAM. But it gets worse as Apple once advertised it as "the ultimate PC replacement." Suddenly gorilla arm syndrome is no longer a problem with these iPad Pros and the 12.9" is the most laughable. Oh btw you can't use your old pencil with these new guys iPP. It's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
4 GB --> iPad Pro 12.9" = 2732 x 2048 = 5,595,136 pixels --> LOL
4 GB --> iPad Pro 11" = 2388 x 1668 = 3,983,184 pixels --> Barely passable
4 GB --> iPhone XS Max = 2688 x 1242 = 3,338,496 pixels --> Sure
It just doesn't make sense in 2018. The 12.9 iPP has almost 68% more pixels for the same 4 GB of RAM. And then you need to get a $1900 tablet without any kind of cursor support just to get 6 GB of RAM. But it gets worse as Apple once advertised it as "the ultimate PC replacement." Suddenly gorilla arm syndrome is no longer a problem with these iPad Pros and the 12.9" is the most laughable. Oh btw you can't use your old pencil with these new guys iPP. It's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
4 GB --> iPad Pro 12.9" = 2732 x 2048 = 5,595,136 pixels --> LOL
4 GB --> iPad Pro 11" = 2388 x 1668 = 3,983,184 pixels --> Barely passable
4 GB --> iPhone XS Max = 2688 x 1242 = 3,338,496 pixels --> Sure
The new Ipad pro was also advertised as a gaming device and that’s where 6gb of ram would make sense.
I had the 256 model ready for order but cancelled after the rumor about ram and will wait to see for actual confirmation.
With the increased price I want to make sure that the Ipad Pro will be future proof and however you might want to think about it the amount of ram matters.
I had the 256 model ready for order but cancelled after the rumor about ram and will wait to see for actual confirmation.
With the increased price I want to make sure that the Ipad Pro will be future proof and however you might want to think about it the amount of ram matters.
That’s one hell of a premium to future proof . You are better waiting 6-12 months for a refresh when all models get 6GB. I used to buy the highest spec to be save, but Apple prices have become insane for maxed units across the board.
Someone already said gaming and I like to weigh in on this, and also other apps: Most apps, believe it or not, are NOT optimized. Neither for the plaform nor the device-specific specs (consider the waiting time 6 Plus users had for optimized apps, or universal apps in that regard). Most apps need more than they should be ignoring platform-specific APIs like Apple‘s Metal or basic interface guidelines, making most apps power and resource hogs, demanding all the RAM capacity they have and all CPU load they get.
Best examples are Unity-based games which source from a 3rd party compiler which is best compared to McDonalds: They make a burger which fits into each human‘s mouth, but that doesn‘t mean those burgers taste well to everyone.
Most Unity-based games run hot on every single device and every bit of improved tech specs help diminish the effect those games have on the wear and tear of the internal components. Also, diminished heat development helps handle the device better because that heat will pass on to your fingers which are the input devices for touchscreens.
Best examples are Unity-based games which source from a 3rd party compiler which is best compared to McDonalds: They make a burger which fits into each human‘s mouth, but that doesn‘t mean those burgers taste well to everyone.
Most Unity-based games run hot on every single device and every bit of improved tech specs help diminish the effect those games have on the wear and tear of the internal components. Also, diminished heat development helps handle the device better because that heat will pass on to your fingers which are the input devices for touchscreens.
Thats what I was planning to do as I have no use for 1tb version. 128gb would be good enough if that was available.
If this rumor is true what bugs me about Apples marketing is that they paint image of Ipad delivering pc and xbox one s level performance to consumers. Leaving important components such as ram lacking the device will not obviously be on the same level. Believing on Apples pitch customers will be expecting to play red death redemption 2 level games in the future.
Its unethical and bad marketing practice.
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Except Apple doesn’t mention RAM anywhere, people who went looking for it found it. I don’t see how this is a shady tactic when it isn’t mentioned at all on their website.
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How is this a way to upsell you when 99/100 people won’t know about it?
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The term “pro” has lost its meaning , it has become a marketing term .
I really don’t think you understood my analogy.
Let me give you a better one, one men’s trash is another men’s treasure
The gentleman I was communicating with understood my analogy.
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Simply put - the 6GB iPad Pro will last , support wise , longer than 4GB with future iOS versions . This for devs is fragmentation. You are now supporting 4Gb and 6GB of the same model
Both versions will likely only get the same number of years of support from Apple. And I don’t think most devs deal with RAM amounts, let’s be honest.
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They’re doing a horrible job, then, since they never told anyone about this.
It’s a valid point . You are right , it’s not upselling, if the buyer is not made aware of it . In which case , more concerned 4GB cannot power the 1TB - as in now much leg room is there as apps become more complex
Or it could just be a nice surprise thrown in there for the super loyal fans that pay nearly 2k for an iPad? I doubt it’s because of that, but I also can’t think of a logical reason for it to need the extra RAM.
Thank you.
How is Apple "duping" "tricking" being "evil" by having more RAM on the top model, they don't mention it anywhere!
In fact, it's actually a pretty strange addition for them to even bother and not talk about it. They could clearly sell more top end models by mentioning they have 50% more RAM as well as more storage. I think some of these whiners would be happier if that model didn't even exist in the lineup...
4 GB of RAM is quite a bit for a gaming device. The iPad is closer to a console in that lots of other resources aren't really needed while gaming. The PS3 (which arguably still has better games than iOS) only had 256 megs of available RAM. If you want a current device, the Nintendo Switch also has 4 GB of RAM. I don't think any iOS game devs, which will still be targeting 2 GB of RAM for the foreseeable future (for entry level iPads), will have a problem with the RAM.
As for future proofing, I hear you- but there's also a point in the future where you could sell your 2018 Pro and upgrade to the 2020 or 2021 pro. So you have to decide if the $400-$600 is worth paying NOW or just paying in the future when 4GB actually starts to hold the device back. And of course getting the A15X which will also be 50% faster or whatever.
I am pretty sure that all of the demos made on stage were done on 1TB version with higher RAM. That in my book is deceiving customers. Curiously all of the hands on demos on the floor were done with the highest capacity version too...
Fair arguments.
Though the Ps3 is console released in 2006. Thats why I felt it would be more fair to compare it to Xbox One S to which Apple was refering to. Importance of ram grows as if I am not mistaken Ipad uses the same ram also for GPU.
It really makes me angry when Apple does this sort of thing; whether its $799 or $999 buy-in, outside of the various tiers of storage space (SSD), all iPad Pro models should be treated equally with RAM!
I was all set to buy this year, but I may well hold off another year until Apple decides to make 6GB standard. No way am I spending for a 1TB iPad.
I was all set to buy this year, but I may well hold off another year until Apple decides to make 6GB standard. No way am I spending for a 1TB iPad.
I just assumed that 4GB would be enough considering you can only run one app at a time and iOS and its apps are optimized in a way in which that’s all that’s necessary.
I stupidly didn’t think about split screen, large photos being edited and rendering etc.
I retract my original post hahah.
Will Apple release an iPhone Xi just for China?$1699 basically plus tax is just around $1800 for a tablet to have 6GB of RAM and you have to get the 1TB model to get 6GB of RAM. Bottom line is you need to fork out $1800 which I think is way too much for a tablet. That is notebook territory.
Don’t get me wrong, I think it is nice with 6GB of RAM but not worth $1800 in my opinion. $1K is about right but not 18 hundred $$$$
They ask you if you have a tablet which you wish to trade in of which they offer you up to $375
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And if you think they are expensive now. Wait until Trump and Xi go at it next month. This iPad could be over $2000 then
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Not surprising. People have been arguing over specs since caveman days with the great Flint vs. Obsidain: Which is better for arrowheads? argument. Of course, everyone knows the answer is flint.
At some point, specifications have no impact on most real world uses. The machine's performance is good enough that any increase in its specifications merely adds more to the price than any additional value form the bump adds to the user experience.
Assuming it is the case, it would be interesting to know why Apple did it. What performance impact does it have and in what situations?
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Good points. I agree that how you use a device is the determinant of which is best for an individual user. Sometimes my iPad Pro is an adjunct to my MBP, functioning it as a second screen, document reader, etc. It also has replaced my laptops in other situations, such as watching movies or checking email / web browsing / using Office in situations where I want aa more portable device than my MBP.
Anecdotally, I know others who have ditched the mac for an iPad. For example, to load stitch patterns, read magazines, pull up recipes when cooking, checking email and web surfing. It does all of those in a more portable form factor than a laptop. Their use case is ideally suited to an iPad; it is a better tool than a Mac for them.
As I learned years ago working on cars: Use the right tool for the job. The world's best pliers is a pretty poor wrench.
No reason to not get a Surface Go tablet at this point. 4GB Ram & 64GB storage at 399. Apple screwed the pooch with their "entry level" tablet. MS even offers a 128GB storage variant for only $150 more.
Apple should have at least started the iPad Pro AT 128GB of storage, this 64GB entry point with the smallest jump to 256GB is a joke and an insult.
But MacRumors exists to defend every crappy decision Apple makes.
Apple should have at least started the iPad Pro AT 128GB of storage, this 64GB entry point with the smallest jump to 256GB is a joke and an insult.
But MacRumors exists to defend every crappy decision Apple makes.