2018 MBP - Am I screwed?

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  1. jim_0117 macrumors newbie

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    So we got no new MBP updates today and I'm in desperate need for a new machine for college this fall (as my current mid 2012 rMBP is dead) what do I do? Do I bite the bullet and take the 2017 15" with it's potential keyboard issues, or continue to wait and wait with no end in sight? I need a computer by the fall and with no 100% guarantee they'll come out in early fall I'm a little concerned.
     
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    Buy a decent condition second hand pre-keyboard issue model (2015?)
     
  4. tubeexperience macrumors 68040

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    Also, what's wrong with your 2012 MacBook Pro?
     
  5. jim_0117 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Liquid Damage, MLB fried
     
  6. tubeexperience macrumors 68040

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    Sent it to Louis Rossmann

    He can repair the logic board for ~$300
     
  7. macjunk(ie) macrumors 6502a

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    Other people on this forum will tell you you are crazy if you plonk in money for the 2015 model. In an ideal world, they are right. If you buy the 2017 model, be prepared to accept the probability that you might have to spend a few weeks without your laptop while in college. It is a very real possibility looking at the number of times my friends in class have dropped their machines at Apple for keyboard service.
     
  8. jim_0117 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Not interested in fixing the old one. Kinda like the new design but I don't want to have the keyboard issues, want the new ascetic and macOS updates for years to come (My old machine was at the bottom of the supported machines list for 10.14 so the axe is coming soon). Is it likely well see new models in say October or even better at the iPhone event in September?
     
  9. Glmnet1 macrumors 6502a

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    Good laptops with the specs of the 2015, such as the XPS 15, currently sell at around $800 while Apple is still selling it at $1999. No matter how bad the 2017 ones are, please don't buy the 2015 at full price. I honestly don't know what you should do except maybe consider Windows laptop?
     
  10. jim_0117 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Don't worry I won't buy the 2015, and I'm too heavily invested in apple's ecosystem to consider windows.
     
  11. tubeexperience macrumors 68040

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    then, you are SOL
     
  12. Cristim74 macrumors member

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    Come on people, the 2017 machines are not as bad as you make it sound. The problem is that most of the people with problems report it on the forum while the vastly superior number of people with no issues usually don't say anything. They are just happily using their machines. That's not to say that the problem does not exist, but the extent of the problem is not as big as some are trying to make it look.

    If you ask me I would say go for the 2017 machine and get extended Apple Care warranty. Should the worst happen you will be covered. But that's just me.
     
  13. jim_0117 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Has anything happened to your 2017 MBP 15" as thats the model I would buy?
     
  14. tubeexperience macrumors 68040

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    ...and how do you know this?

    Did you conduct random phone surveys with at least 10,000 owners of 2016/2017 MacBook Pro?

    There are plenty of people who have problems who don't report them on the forum.
     
  15. Glmnet1 macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah, it's quite bad to feel forced to buy AC on a $3k but that's what I'd do too if I had to buy a MBP now. Hopefully in 3 years Apple will have a support program in place.
     
  16. elppa macrumors 68040

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    Well the only consolation is you are not alone, all other prospective buyers are stuck between the devil and deep blue sea as well.
    I thought they were waiting for WWDC for marketing purposes - as the 8th gen Intel chipsets have been out for some time now.
     
  17. KUKitch macrumors 6502

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    I love my 2017 - I’m not a ‘power user’ but it’s pretty awesome regardless... you might not miss out too much if you need something!
     
  18. Cristim74 macrumors member

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    Well, nothing happened so far, but I only had it for a little over two months.
    --- Post Merged, Jun 4, 2018 ---
    No, I didn't. But did you do it so you can tell me it's the other way around?
     
  19. tubeexperience, Jun 4, 2018
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    ...because, we have these MacBook Pro at work and the keyboard failure rate is atrocious

    3/5 failure rate so far

    That might not be a large sample size, but it does give us an idea.

    We are selling these as soon as the warranty expires.
     
  20. macjunk(ie) macrumors 6502a

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    The 3 lawsuits, the change.org petition and the numerous complaints in the blogosphere might give us some clues that something is not right with the keyboard? We could also see if the same complaints were made on the models before 2016/2017 to determine if the keyboard complaints are exclusive to the new models only .
     
  21. duervo macrumors 68020

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    Three months to go until fall. You still have time. I’d wait a couple months till end of July if I were a student, and then decide based on what’s available at that time. Until then, don’t sweat it. Relax. Enjoy your summer.
     
  22. TiggrToo macrumors demi-goddess

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    They'll be why they gave us egpus support on the MBP, and before then some horribly expensive but top of the line desktops recently, and are working on bringing iOS apps to OSX I guess. As is the fact that OSX was the first to get dark mode, or the fact that they're pushing XCode and app development heavily. All horribly strong indicators they Apple don't care about 'computers'. :rolleyes:
     
  23. smallcoffee macrumors 65816

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    just use the computer lab and suck it up for a few months. It's not really that long of a wait. You start school in August right? They'll probably announce new hardware in September.

    Also - a lot of salty people on the forums today after WWDC. Ignore them.
     
  24. jerryk macrumors 601

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    You have time to wait until closer to fall. Since they have them in stock you might as well wait and pickup a back to school special. Maybe you will get a gift card or some Beat headphones, price drop, or ...
     
  25. baypharm, Jun 4, 2018
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    baypharm macrumors 65816

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    If you go ahead and purchase a new MBP, you are essentially tossing the dice. You might get a machine that will last you for 5 years trouble free - and you may also receive a machine that will plague you constantly with keyboard and other issues. So, really it's up to you. How much value do you place on your money? If you are a rich college kid, roll the dice and take it like a man if sometime down the road you begin to have problems. If you are not rich and value your money well you know the answer....
     

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