More like 40 GB, but don't know why that guy was asking file size.typically around 22gb or so give or take.
More like 40 GB, but don't know why that guy was asking file size.typically around 22gb or so give or take.
They can be if, yes, if you don't strip out the extras. I'm referring to just the movie by itself.More like 40 GB, but don't know why that guy was asking file size.
More like 40 GB, but don't know why that guy was asking file size.
Yeah, I never used Compressor before. I frequently want to use the Mini for encoding 20-25 GB rips to 2-4 GB H264 or H265I thought your question was about heat.
If you don't care about file size, which directly affects how long the computer is running to complete the task, I provided you with an answer for the i5 and Compressor in post #118.
However, as @archer75 points out, Compressor is optimised for Mac. I haven't done a comparison with Handbrake, at least not yet.
From my searches it doesn't seem compressor would be ideal for bluray rips. It depends on what you're after though. There just isn't a lot of info out there comparing compressor to handbrake so it's difficult to decide if it will work.Yeah, I never used Compressor before. I frequently want to use the Mini for encoding 20-25 GB rips to 2-4 GB H264 or H265
From my searches it doesn't seem compressor would be ideal for bluray rips. It depends on what you're after though. There just isn't a lot of info out there comparing compressor to handbrake so it's difficult to decide if it will work.
I may just buy it to test with.
Aside from the GPU question the others have been answered. I've never seen it throttle below it's 3.2ghz clock speed unless the system isn't being used and it doesn't need the power. Even on high end video work turbo is kicking in and it's ramping the clock speed UP as much as it can before reaching the 100c thermal limit set by intel. It's only audible while it's in the 90c range. Other than that you don't hear it. And even at max fan speed it's not very loud.
I don't expect gaming to be any different. Most games are more GPU dependent than CPU. Aside from MMO's which seem more CPU dependent.
It depends on temp. It's happy to go all the way to 4.3ghz and stay there as long as temps aren't too high. Yesterday it spend the whole day at that frequency but I wasn't doing too much. I had 4 transfers in progress. Web browsing, email, bluray ripping, watched some videos. Nothing serious.I mean for istance with apps that use steady only 1-3 cores, what turbo boost can be expected?
It depends on temp. It's happy to go all the way to 4.3ghz and stay there as long as temps aren't too high. Yesterday it spend the whole day at that frequency but I wasn't doing too much. I had 4 transfers in progress. Web browsing, email, bluray ripping, watched some videos. Nothing serious.
If i'm encoding and maxing CPU usage I see the clock speed at 3.6ghz(base clock is 3.2ghz). At that point I can hear the fan but it's not a big deal.
I think you misunderstood me. I was giving the other poster my use case scenario for the i7 Mini. I have no intentions of using Compressor. My need for the machine or than the basics is using handbrake to encode bluray rips into H264/265. Not sure if Mini is the appropriate machine due to possible heat issues with prolonged encoding.From my searches it doesn't seem compressor would be ideal for bluray rips. It depends on what you're after though. There just isn't a lot of info out there comparing compressor to handbrake so it's difficult to decide if it will work.
I may just buy it to test with.
They throttle if the cooling is insufficient. That is obviously not the case....Although the temperature is even surpassing 100 degrees Celsius, the CPU refuses to reduce clock speed to protect itself. It stays firmly above base clock speed, and refuses to slow down. Are older Intel CPUs incapable of throttling?View attachment 803305
I do understand. If compressor could work it would use hardware encoding which would be both much faster and much cooler. Making it a wonderful option. Something to consider. This is why I'm interested in it. I may have to use a combination of both it and MKVmerge to come up with the final product but that's fine.I think you misunderstood me. I was giving the other poster my use case scenario for the i7 Mini. I have no intentions of using Compressor. My need for the machine or than the basics is using handbrake to encode bluray rips into H264/265. Not sure if Mini is the appropriate machine due to possible heat issues with prolonged encoding.
I do understand. If compressor could work it would use hardware encoding which would be both much faster and much cooler. Making it a wonderful option. Something to consider. This is why I'm interested in it. I may have to use a combination of both it and MKVmerge to come up with the final product but that's fine.
I ran handbrake last night. Sure it gets in the 90's but it manages fan speed and clock speed so it doesn't get hotter.
I'm doing a comparison between handbrake on the PC and the Mac. And with all the settings the same the PC version is coming in noticeably smaller. I'm not really sure why so I'll do further testing.
Even if I rip everything on the Mac I can dump it in a shared folder and then just batch queue on the PC to run once a week and drop it off back in folders on the Mac.
I wish ripbot supported mac as it can do distributed encoding. It will hand off parts of a file to all the computers you connect to it and dramatically speed up encoding. Ripbot was my go to encoder until handbrake got h.265 10bit and I switched to that. But ripbot has that now and i've been meaning to do some more testing.
Thanks for that information!I do understand. If compressor could work it would use hardware encoding which would be both much faster and much cooler. Making it a wonderful option. Something to consider. This is why I'm interested in it. I may have to use a combination of both it and MKVmerge to come up with the final product but that's fine.
I ran handbrake last night. Sure it gets in the 90's but it manages fan speed and clock speed so it doesn't get hotter.
I'm doing a comparison between handbrake on the PC and the Mac. And with all the settings the same the PC version is coming in noticeably smaller. I'm not really sure why so I'll do further testing.
Even if I rip everything on the Mac I can dump it in a shared folder and then just batch queue on the PC to run once a week and drop it off back in folders on the Mac.
I wish ripbot supported mac as it can do distributed encoding. It will hand off parts of a file to all the computers you connect to it and dramatically speed up encoding. Ripbot was my go to encoder until handbrake got h.265 10bit and I switched to that. But ripbot has that now and i've been meaning to do some more testing.
95% of the time, the machine is inaudible. The fan runs at ~1700rpm almost exclusively, unless the machine is being pushed.
Playing 4k on it or streaming 4k to other devices in the house? In either case I haven't noticed any increase in sound. I tend to stream all movies, 4k and otherwise to my ATV4k. Full UHD backups to my oppo.What about 4K movies. i7 silent?
4K content is getting more usual these days (Netflix etc). Also i will buy this mini to use it for ~ 5 - 7 years.Playing 4k on it or streaming 4k to other devices in the house? In either case I haven't noticed any increase in sound. I tend to stream all movies, 4k and otherwise to my ATV4k. Full UHD backups to my oppo.
Netflix 4k isn't even going to stress it. You won't have anything to worry about. The ONLY time I hear the fan is when i'm doing video encoding.4K content is getting more usual these days (Netflix etc). Also i will buy this mini to use it for ~ 5 - 7 years.
So it's very important for me that it will work silently when playing 4K.
I'm happy to hear that it is silent. Silence is the main reason for me to choose mac mini as personal desktop computer.
I7Anyone has tested turboboost frequency when 2/3 cores are under load?
I7
Utilization - Temperatur - Frequency
99.50 - 97.00 - 3.70
66.10 - 96.70 - 3.80
49.50 - 97.80 - 4.00
33.10 - 98.50 - 4.30
3.0 - 44.80 - 1.40
I5
Utilization - Temperature - Frequency
99.00 - 95.50 - 3.60
66.70 - 92.90 - 3.90
50.00 - 89.60 - 3.90
33.30 - 88.90 - 3.96
1.00 - 44.00 - 1.46
Id like to point out the temps are very close between the i5 and i7. So everyone who says i7s run hot.. well there you go.I7
Utilization - Temperatur - Frequency
99.50 - 97.00 - 3.70
66.10 - 96.70 - 3.80
49.50 - 97.80 - 4.00
33.10 - 98.50 - 4.30
3.0 - 44.80 - 1.40
I5
Utilization - Temperature - Frequency
99.00 - 95.50 - 3.60
66.70 - 92.90 - 3.90
50.00 - 89.60 - 3.90
33.30 - 88.90 - 3.96
1.00 - 44.00 - 1.46
95% of the time, the machine is inaudible. The fan runs at ~1700rpm almost exclusively, unless the machine is being pushed.
It's the case.Sorry for bringing this up again:
Is this really the case for all i7 users?
At the beginning of this thread here some users spoke about really hot with heavy fan activities, also in normal workload situations.
I am still worried about noise of the i7 (vs. i5) in non peak levels (doing emails, Internet, MS Office, etc)