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More like 40 GB, but don't know why that guy was asking file size.

I thought your question was about heat.

If you don't care about file size, which directly affects how long the computer is running to complete the task, I provided you with an answer for the i5 and Compressor in post #118.

However, as @archer75 points out, Compressor is optimised for Mac. I haven't done a comparison with Handbrake, at least not yet.
 
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I thought your question was about heat.

If you don't care about file size, which directly affects how long the computer is running to complete the task, I provided you with an answer for the i5 and Compressor in post #118.

However, as @archer75 points out, Compressor is optimised for Mac. I haven't done a comparison with Handbrake, at least not yet.
Yeah, I never used Compressor before. I frequently want to use the Mini for encoding 20-25 GB rips to 2-4 GB H264 or H265
 
Yeah, I never used Compressor before. I frequently want to use the Mini for encoding 20-25 GB rips to 2-4 GB H264 or H265
From my searches it doesn't seem compressor would be ideal for bluray rips. It depends on what you're after though. There just isn't a lot of info out there comparing compressor to handbrake so it's difficult to decide if it will work.
I may just buy it to test with.
 
From my searches it doesn't seem compressor would be ideal for bluray rips. It depends on what you're after though. There just isn't a lot of info out there comparing compressor to handbrake so it's difficult to decide if it will work.
I may just buy it to test with.

There is no point in paying US$50 for Compressor unless you are involved in making videos and publishing them, for example, to YouTube or Vimeo.
 
Aside from the GPU question the others have been answered. I've never seen it throttle below it's 3.2ghz clock speed unless the system isn't being used and it doesn't need the power. Even on high end video work turbo is kicking in and it's ramping the clock speed UP as much as it can before reaching the 100c thermal limit set by intel. It's only audible while it's in the 90c range. Other than that you don't hear it. And even at max fan speed it's not very loud.

I don't expect gaming to be any different. Most games are more GPU dependent than CPU. Aside from MMO's which seem more CPU dependent.

I mean for istance with apps that use steady only 1-3 cores, what turbo boost can be expected?
 
I mean for istance with apps that use steady only 1-3 cores, what turbo boost can be expected?
It depends on temp. It's happy to go all the way to 4.3ghz and stay there as long as temps aren't too high. Yesterday it spend the whole day at that frequency but I wasn't doing too much. I had 4 transfers in progress. Web browsing, email, bluray ripping, watched some videos. Nothing serious.
If i'm encoding and maxing CPU usage I see the clock speed at 3.6ghz(base clock is 3.2ghz). At that point I can hear the fan but it's not a big deal.
 
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It depends on temp. It's happy to go all the way to 4.3ghz and stay there as long as temps aren't too high. Yesterday it spend the whole day at that frequency but I wasn't doing too much. I had 4 transfers in progress. Web browsing, email, bluray ripping, watched some videos. Nothing serious.
If i'm encoding and maxing CPU usage I see the clock speed at 3.6ghz(base clock is 3.2ghz). At that point I can hear the fan but it's not a big deal.

I know it depends on temps that is why I’m asking, for instance i use games that runs on 2 cores only basically (warhammer 2 total war) would be nice to understand if the i7 has any advantages over the i5 in those scenarios
 
From my searches it doesn't seem compressor would be ideal for bluray rips. It depends on what you're after though. There just isn't a lot of info out there comparing compressor to handbrake so it's difficult to decide if it will work.
I may just buy it to test with.
I think you misunderstood me. I was giving the other poster my use case scenario for the i7 Mini. I have no intentions of using Compressor. My need for the machine or than the basics is using handbrake to encode bluray rips into H264/265. Not sure if Mini is the appropriate machine due to possible heat issues with prolonged encoding.
 
I think you misunderstood me. I was giving the other poster my use case scenario for the i7 Mini. I have no intentions of using Compressor. My need for the machine or than the basics is using handbrake to encode bluray rips into H264/265. Not sure if Mini is the appropriate machine due to possible heat issues with prolonged encoding.
I do understand. If compressor could work it would use hardware encoding which would be both much faster and much cooler. Making it a wonderful option. Something to consider. This is why I'm interested in it. I may have to use a combination of both it and MKVmerge to come up with the final product but that's fine.

I ran handbrake last night. Sure it gets in the 90's but it manages fan speed and clock speed so it doesn't get hotter.
I'm doing a comparison between handbrake on the PC and the Mac. And with all the settings the same the PC version is coming in noticeably smaller. I'm not really sure why so I'll do further testing.
Even if I rip everything on the Mac I can dump it in a shared folder and then just batch queue on the PC to run once a week and drop it off back in folders on the Mac.
I wish ripbot supported mac as it can do distributed encoding. It will hand off parts of a file to all the computers you connect to it and dramatically speed up encoding. Ripbot was my go to encoder until handbrake got h.265 10bit and I switched to that. But ripbot has that now and i've been meaning to do some more testing.
 
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I do understand. If compressor could work it would use hardware encoding which would be both much faster and much cooler. Making it a wonderful option. Something to consider. This is why I'm interested in it. I may have to use a combination of both it and MKVmerge to come up with the final product but that's fine.

I ran handbrake last night. Sure it gets in the 90's but it manages fan speed and clock speed so it doesn't get hotter.
I'm doing a comparison between handbrake on the PC and the Mac. And with all the settings the same the PC version is coming in noticeably smaller. I'm not really sure why so I'll do further testing.
Even if I rip everything on the Mac I can dump it in a shared folder and then just batch queue on the PC to run once a week and drop it off back in folders on the Mac.
I wish ripbot supported mac as it can do distributed encoding. It will hand off parts of a file to all the computers you connect to it and dramatically speed up encoding. Ripbot was my go to encoder until handbrake got h.265 10bit and I switched to that. But ripbot has that now and i've been meaning to do some more testing.

If you are able to develop a workflow that includes Compressor, I'd be very interested in learning what it is.

Here are some additional Compressor test results: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-mini-i5-tests.2153750/page-4#post-26798154
 
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I do understand. If compressor could work it would use hardware encoding which would be both much faster and much cooler. Making it a wonderful option. Something to consider. This is why I'm interested in it. I may have to use a combination of both it and MKVmerge to come up with the final product but that's fine.

I ran handbrake last night. Sure it gets in the 90's but it manages fan speed and clock speed so it doesn't get hotter.
I'm doing a comparison between handbrake on the PC and the Mac. And with all the settings the same the PC version is coming in noticeably smaller. I'm not really sure why so I'll do further testing.
Even if I rip everything on the Mac I can dump it in a shared folder and then just batch queue on the PC to run once a week and drop it off back in folders on the Mac.
I wish ripbot supported mac as it can do distributed encoding. It will hand off parts of a file to all the computers you connect to it and dramatically speed up encoding. Ripbot was my go to encoder until handbrake got h.265 10bit and I switched to that. But ripbot has that now and i've been meaning to do some more testing.
Thanks for that information!
 
What about 4K movies. i7 silent?
Playing 4k on it or streaming 4k to other devices in the house? In either case I haven't noticed any increase in sound. I tend to stream all movies, 4k and otherwise to my ATV4k. Full UHD backups to my oppo.
 
Playing 4k on it or streaming 4k to other devices in the house? In either case I haven't noticed any increase in sound. I tend to stream all movies, 4k and otherwise to my ATV4k. Full UHD backups to my oppo.
4K content is getting more usual these days (Netflix etc). Also i will buy this mini to use it for ~ 5 - 7 years.
So it's very important for me that it will work silently when playing 4K.

I'm happy to hear that it is silent. Silence is the main reason for me to choose mac mini as personal desktop computer.
 
4K content is getting more usual these days (Netflix etc). Also i will buy this mini to use it for ~ 5 - 7 years.
So it's very important for me that it will work silently when playing 4K.

I'm happy to hear that it is silent. Silence is the main reason for me to choose mac mini as personal desktop computer.
Netflix 4k isn't even going to stress it. You won't have anything to worry about. The ONLY time I hear the fan is when i'm doing video encoding.
 
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Anyone has tested turboboost frequency when 2/3 cores are under load?
I7
Utilization - Temperatur - Frequency
99.50 - 97.00 - 3.70
66.10 - 96.70 - 3.80
49.50 - 97.80 - 4.00
33.10 - 98.50 - 4.30
3.0 - 44.80 - 1.40

I5
Utilization - Temperature - Frequency
99.00 - 95.50 - 3.60
66.70 - 92.90 - 3.90
50.00 - 89.60 - 3.90
33.30 - 88.90 - 3.96
1.00 - 44.00 - 1.46
 
I7
Utilization - Temperatur - Frequency
99.50 - 97.00 - 3.70
66.10 - 96.70 - 3.80
49.50 - 97.80 - 4.00
33.10 - 98.50 - 4.30
3.0 - 44.80 - 1.40

I5
Utilization - Temperature - Frequency
99.00 - 95.50 - 3.60
66.70 - 92.90 - 3.90
50.00 - 89.60 - 3.90
33.30 - 88.90 - 3.96
1.00 - 44.00 - 1.46

But if I’m reading that right that could be all cores at 99-66-50-33% utilization.

Also are thise using igpu or egpu? I just found out that igpu alone should be 15w TDP, a nice reliefe for the cpu.
 
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I7
Utilization - Temperatur - Frequency
99.50 - 97.00 - 3.70
66.10 - 96.70 - 3.80
49.50 - 97.80 - 4.00
33.10 - 98.50 - 4.30
3.0 - 44.80 - 1.40

I5
Utilization - Temperature - Frequency
99.00 - 95.50 - 3.60
66.70 - 92.90 - 3.90
50.00 - 89.60 - 3.90
33.30 - 88.90 - 3.96
1.00 - 44.00 - 1.46
Id like to point out the temps are very close between the i5 and i7. So everyone who says i7s run hot.. well there you go.

Thanks for running that test
 
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Maybe a silly question - but where exactly is the air INTAKE on the new Mac Mini?
I see the exhaust is around the back, but the only place for intake would be around the bottom removeable plate - although this is snapped into place providing little cool air entry space.

Those seeing high temps, have you tried running the MM without the bottom plate in place - and maybe a couple of rubber feet holding the MM up a few mm from your desk - or better still, run the MM vertically with the plate removed?
Would be interesting to see how much of a difference this would make?
 
95% of the time, the machine is inaudible. The fan runs at ~1700rpm almost exclusively, unless the machine is being pushed.

Sorry for bringing this up again:
Is this really the case for all i7 users?
At the beginning of this thread here some users spoke about really hot with heavy fan activities, also in normal workload situations.
I am still worried about noise of the i7 (vs. i5) in non peak levels (doing emails, Internet, MS Office, etc)
 
Sorry for bringing this up again:
Is this really the case for all i7 users?
At the beginning of this thread here some users spoke about really hot with heavy fan activities, also in normal workload situations.
I am still worried about noise of the i7 (vs. i5) in non peak levels (doing emails, Internet, MS Office, etc)
It's the case.

In non peak things you'll never hear the fan. It's only audible when I do sustained 100% load activities like video encoding.
 
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