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iPad Pro 11"
iPad Air 10.5"
iPad 9.7"

OMG, Apple, what the heck are you thinking?!? Talk about thoroughly confusing the customer. Has the lessons of Steve been forgotten already? Keep the product line SIMPLE. If you can't explain what the heck each of these things does then why are they there???
When the 11" came out, I was convinced the 10.5" was dead. Guess not. :confused:
 
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This is GFXbench 5.0.

The iPhone XS Max is 3.3 Megapixels. The iPad Pro 10.5" (and iPad Air) are 3.7 Megapixels.

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I just love the helpfulness of some people in here...

So what I and someone else in this thread are wondering is if the newer Air is going to stick with 3gb of RAM and if so, how would that performance be against the slower A10 w/ 4gb in the Pro? I know this will greatly depend on end user's use cases.

Man, that 120Hz just got me crazy for the Pro!

EDIT: In fact, my Air 2 just went up on OfferUp. Hoping I can beat Apple's recycle program offering, which is way too paltry...
My apologies for sounding harsh. I mean it. I just overreacted because you put it in a way that it seemed to be so obvious that the iPad Pro with the A10 was a better deal. I agree it might be nuanced. And I am sorry for having said “wake up”. Peace :)
 
My apologies for sounding harsh. I mean it. I just overreacted because you put it in a way that it seemed to be so obvious that the iPad Pro with the A10 was a better deal. I agree it might be nuanced. And I am sorry for having said “wake up”. Peace :)
Just to be clear, the iPad Pro 10.5 has the A10X. Big difference between the A10X and A10.
 
I got the iPad Pro 11 256GB SG after today's announcement. I was hoping Face ID in the non-pro models but Apple doesn't want to do this for some reason.
 
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For those of you who don’t know yet, it’s been confirmed that the iPad Air 3 has 3GB of RAM.
Actually, that hasn't be 100% confirmed yet. All we know is that one of the new iPads has 3 GB, but there is still the remote possibility that it's 3 GB for the mini and different for the Air.
 
I can't believe this three year old 9.7" iPad Pro has a better speaker system than this new iPad Air.

The sad thing is this iPad Air would be a good upgrade from this 2015 9.7 iPad Pro, but you have to give up a far better speaker system for it. WTF?
 
Wait? So wasn’t the Air line discontinued years ago? So is this the Air 3? Same form factor as the 2014 Air 2? Having an Air 2, this is the only iPad that appeals to me.

Now can we can an upgraded iPhone 8 with the same form factor but latest specs?
 
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I dont see why apple just didn’t keep the 10.5 iPad Pro and drop the price point a bit. It’s basically the same product.. I would love to get a second iPad Pro 10.5 with 512gb by the way. I love this thing lol..
 



Apple has launched a new 10.5-inch iPad Air that can be viewed as a lower-priced successor to the second-generation 10.5-inch iPad Pro, which has been discontinued. Below, we compare tech specs and features.

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Pricing is key, with the new iPad Air starting at $499 with Wi-Fi only and $629 with LTE connectivity in the United States. The 10.5-inch iPad Pro started at $649 with Wi-Fi and $779 with LTE connectivity until it was discontinued. Both have 64GB or 256GB of storage, but the new iPad Air lacks a 512GB option.

Design wise, the iPads have a lot of similarities, including dimensions, thinness, and overall appearance. Both have a Touch ID home button, a headphone jack, and a Lightning connector, but the new iPad Air has only two speakers along the bottom, whereas the 10.5-inch iPad Pro has four speakers.

The new iPad Air is available in Silver, Space Gray, and a newer Gold finish that essentially merges the previously separate Gold and Rose Gold finishes that were available for the 10.5-inch iPad Pro.

Both iPads feature a fully laminated Retina display with a resolution of 2224×1668 pixels and 264 PPI, True Tone, and support for the P3 wide color space, but the new 10.5-inch iPad Air has a 60Hz refresh rate while the 10.5-inch iPad Pro has a so-called ProMotion display with up to a 120Hz refresh rate.

Processor wise, the new iPad Air sports Apple's A12 Bionic chip compared to a slower A10X Fusion chip in the 10.5-inch iPad Pro. The new iPad Air also has dedicated hardware called the "Neural Engine" that handles artificial intelligence and machine learning tasks, while the 10.5-inch iPad Pro does not.

In terms of battery life, both iPads last up to 10 hours per charge, according to Apple's internal testing.

With its lower price point, the new iPad Air has a lower-end 8-megapixel rear camera, compared to a 12-megapixel sensor on the 10.5-inch iPad Pro. The rear camera on the new iPad Air also lacks LED flash, optical image stabilization, and Focus Pixels, but one benefit is that there is no camera bump.

The front FaceTime HD cameras are the same 7-megapixel sensors with Live Photos, Retina Flash, and other identical features on both iPads.

As for connectivity, both iPads have 802.11ac Wi-Fi, but the new iPad Air has Gigabit-class LTE versus the 10.5-inch iPad Pro's theoretically slower LTE Advanced support. The new iPad Air also gets a bump to Bluetooth 5.0 versus Bluetooth 4.2 out of the box for the 10.5-inch iPad Pro.

Both iPads are compatible with the first-generation Apple Pencil and the 10.5-inch Smart Keyboard.

Summary
The new iPad Air starts at $150 less than the 10.5-inch iPad Pro and thus has some tradeoffs: two speakers versus four, no ProMotion display, and a lower-end 8-megapixel rear camera with no LED flash or optical image stabilization.
Both iPads have a 10.5-inch Retina display with 264 PPI, headphone jack, Touch ID, Lightning connector, 7-megapixel front camera, up to 10 hours of battery life, and 802.11ac Wi-Fi.
The new iPad Air has some advantages: faster A12 Bionic chip vs. A10X Fusion, Gigabit-class LTE vs. LTE Advanced, and Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2.The new iPad Air can be ordered starting today with in-store availability beginning next week in the United States and many other regions.

Article Link: 2019 10.5-Inch iPad Air vs. 2017 10.5-Inch iPad Pro
[doublepost=1552962339][/doublepost]I'll say without hesitation that the sound on my 10.5" pro is the best I've ever heard on any mobile device. I might go so far as to say it's worth the $150 premium (which will be far less if you buy a 10.5" pro from another retailer). I use it primarily for reading classical music scores, and the refresh rate is also key. It's just silly that they discontinued it, but I imagine the remaining stock will sell out quickly when musicians start talking and using the new one.
 
Cook & Co is now after "Incremental Revenue" in every way possible.

I wouldn't say no one has picked up on it, most of the readers here realize that Apple is mostly out of ideas and has been offering less significant updates since the iPhone 6. Apple realizes they're in trouble, and hiding the numbers will prevent earnings call catastrophes every quarter, at least until they can come out of their slump.
 
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[doublepost=1552962339][/doublepost]I'll say without hesitation that the sound on my 10.5" pro is the best I've ever heard on any mobile device. I might go so far as to say it's worth the $150 premium (which will be far less if you buy a 10.5" pro from another retailer). I use it primarily for reading classical music scores, and the refresh rate is also key. It's just silly that they discontinued it, but I imagine the remaining stock will sell out quickly when musicians start talking and using the new one.
There is no US$150 premium for the Pro now.

At full retail for the base models in Canada, it is $649 for the Air, and now $729 for the Pro, which is an CAD$80 premium for the Pro. That's a US$60 premium.

However, on the refurb store, the same Pro is only CAD$619, which means it's actually cheaper than the Air at full retail. For those of us who can access the education store, the Air is also CAD$619, which means the refurb Pro and the edu Air are the exact same price.
 
Nope, the opposite is true / the old one is far superior and 120 is pro motion is great for everyday use

How can something that has a weaker processor and lesser connectivity be "far superior"? I've got the 2017 Pro and my S.O. has the iPad. I don't notice the pro motion screen difference. But is there something else far superior between the two?
 
Which one is better for students?

The question being: which feature can said student live without?
i.e if you use it with headphones/external speakers most of the time (thus not worry about speaker quality) or is willing to live without ProMotion display (ok honestly, this I feel reluctant to give out because I have the 10.5 Pro) then the Air is the one for you?
[doublepost=1552977205][/doublepost]inb4 you're inclined more towards the 10.5 Air JUST BECAUSE it doesn't have a camera bump.
 
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Ugh. So confused. I always buy new tech, not sure if I will notice the pro motion speed or not. I do occasionally use the iPad speakers. Leaning toward a refurb pro. Can anyone give clarity? I currently use a mini 2 to read, email, etc, but have a 12 Pro for work- which stays in the office. Looking to replace the mini at home and want a bigger screen.
 
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The Apple iPad lineup is utterly confusing. It's not straight forward the difference between an "AIR" and a "PRO" iPad to me right off the bat.
Isn't it the same like MacBook, MacBook Air and MacBook Pro right now?
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iPad Pro 11"
iPad Air 10.5"
iPad 9.7"

OMG, Apple, what the heck are you thinking?!? Talk about thoroughly confusing the customer. Has the lessons of Steve been forgotten already? Keep the product line SIMPLE. If you can't explain what the heck each of these things does then why are they there???
Apple is giving us now something that seemingly everyone on these forums wanted: C H O I C E.
Now that we have it, it seems like we can't handle it. :D
 
But no camera bump is still a win for those of us who don't cram our devices into cases.

That’s why I said ‘most’ and not ‘all people will’. Maybe you’re right but you’re accepting a worse camera setup for the privilege and I’ve seen iPads not kept in cases before, always a sorry sight, they’re just not very durable. I’d personally just have a case to protect the chassis, display and to resist bending.
 
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